VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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Sincerely hope parents or Kaija are not involved.
For all my dislike for them, there is simply no reason to give player any more reasons to hate them (those that do)

There should really be start of recovering trust, not placing even higher barriers.

Those that burnt bridges can move on to next part of life, those that forgave can start recovery process.

My money is still on 3rd party though.
Would it be a bad thing if their motivation was to rescue him? It would be something, but I agree, it will be a death nell for Kaija and the parents relationship for many fans on the fence.

I really think Medb should get comfort sex :sneaky:
 
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You can also go a middle way, just have 3 confront choices or more, the MC will get out at some point, talk with the sister and choose ''leave door open''.
Which is pretty much the MC is pissed, doesn't know how to trust them again or if he should, but he aggres that he will talk to them again, after he had some time for himself. Going forward you still can forgive or burn bridges, or at least that is how i understood it.
This is correct.
A pretty good summary. I wonder if the Finnabair's end was a result of the MC sneaking off to visit the Alfar and the Templars thinking the Alfar kidnapped him? Just a thought.
Perhaps possible but I would say as she was obviously on a 'mission' of some sorts and description. What, how, where, why I guess we will find out in the next chapter.

People are also assuming the Templars did kill her.....right now we just have Medb's word on that....she could be wrong, making assumptions or the third party made it look like it was the Templars. Right now...we really know nothing at all.
 
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Would it be a bad thing if their motivation was to rescue him? It would be something, but I agree, it will be a death nell for Kaija and the parents relationship for many fans on the fence.

I really think Medb should get comfort sex :sneaky:
Considering how Finnabair felt and acted near the end of chapter, there is no way she would have been the one to start combat.
So no matter reasoning, it would be them who started conflict, which is a nono.

Agreed on Medb point, she needs some loving to recover faster.
 
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Yeah, that would be the obvious pick, i will still 100% accuse the templars thought :whistle:
I would find some traitorous templars better, or loyal ones, it would be more interesting especially how the MC reacts on it.
Well, technically speaking, traitorous templar would be 3rd party :p

I just wish to see it happened with no involvement from Kaija/Family.
Too much happened involving them already, no need to add more to that pile.

Loyal templars are of course possible, but again, it would just be adding more wood to "dad sucks as leader" pile, so I hope not.
 
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I would also add, why would the Templars decide to 'rescue' the MC? He pretty much told everyone, including Jessica he was going to take some time out to think. Ok so sure, daddy was kidnapped (but at the time we were told that, that was also an assumption), not confirmed.

MC was 'missing' for three days, had Kaija run into Nightingale (and surely if this was a Templar thing, Kaija would go to Neverwhere to try and get information) she would have said he went there voluntarily and was escorted in...so are we maybe seeing a pattern here, that the Templars just love to go from 0 to 100 and jump to conclusions when they have no prooof of anything? Maybe it's me, but 3 days is hardly a long time when the MC himself stated he was going to reflect on things.

Again, we really are currently pretty much in the dark, as said before, we don't even know what Finn was doing, let alone anything else.
 

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This is correct.

Perhaps possible but I would say as she was obviously on a 'mission' of some sorts and description. What, how, where, why I guess we will find out in the next chapter.

People are also assuming the Templars did kill her.....right now we just have Medb's word on that....she could be wrong, making assumptions or the third party made it look like it was the Templars. Right now...we really know nothing at all.
My sense is that it was the third party, and they arranged the battlefield to look like a Templar encounter.

For all of the Alfar's awareness of what is going on around them - keen senses and all - the presence of Hellspawn is a current blind spot.

One thing I have not seen yet is what happens to the bodies of Hellspawn once they die.

Are they just 'normal' corpses and they take significant time to decay to nothing (so someone has to clean the battlefield to remove their trace) or is there a 'supernatural/magical' element where decay occurs very quickly after the bodies are no long breathing/animated?

This would rapidly remove traces of encounters with Hellspawn, but there have been no specific references by either Templars or Alfar regarding this Hellspawn 'feature.'

The trading outpost was a few hours away from the encounter with Finnabair and Ailill.

Do the Alfar simply patrol so infrequently out beyond that outpost 'zone' that they are not seeing the gradual penetration of Hellspawn forces into their buffer area?

More knowledge hunger that the feast of CH 6 will feed.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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My sense is that it was the third party, and they arranged the battlefield to look like a Templar encounter.

For all of the Alfar's awareness of what is going on around them - keen senses and all - the presence of Hellspawn is a current blind spot.

One thing I have not seen yet is what happens to the bodies of Hellspawn once they die.

Are they just 'normal' corpses and they take significant time to decay to nothing (so someone has to clean the battlefield to remove their trace) or is there a 'supernatural/magical' element where decay occurs very quickly after the bodies are no long breathing/animated?

This would rapidly remove traces of encounters with Hellspawn, but there have been no specific references by either Templars or Alfar regarding this Hellspawn 'feature.'

The trading outpost was a few hours away from the encounter with Finnabair and Ailill.

Do the Alfar simply patrol so infrequently out beyond that outpost 'zone' that they are not seeing the gradual penetration of Hellspawn forces into their buffer area?

More knowledge hunger that the feast of CH 6 will feed.

Cheers!! :coffee:
Interesting point PH...even after the Neverwhere battle Kaija makes no reference to what will happen to the bodies does she.
 
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Seriously?

*sighs*

4....Kaija, Elea, Fiona, Medb. Anyone else is a side piece. You really needed to ping the Dev to to find this out? While he away on holiday? Jesus, have you even started and played the VN?
Nope you got it wrong. Hilda, Gertrude, Fanny and Gaye are the LIs all the others girls are red-herrings put their by the dev to lead readers astray :sneaky:
 

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A pretty good summary. I wonder if the Finnabair's end was a result of the MC sneaking off to visit the Alfar and the Templars thinking the Alfar kidnapped him? Just a thought.
Medb had the MC record a video on his phone telling his parents/the Templars where he is.

How that was delivered (and whether or not there was some level of Alfar arrogance in the delivery or even an intro video from Medb with some gloating) we don't know.

Given the way some Templars freak out about not controlling something (William - let's go to war right now - Nolan), there could even be accusations of betraying the Templars - even though the MC is Not a Templar and was in the dark about all things Templar until very recently.

The writing for the different path possibilities in CH 6 will be complex but I trust Ceolag to nail it!

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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