VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

[MiltonPowers]

I really am wondering what could cause such an action tbh. There is no redeeming for her IMO, you can't do what she did and expect to be considered good guy yet kinda curious what would be her excuse for being such a shitty person.

Hey MC I did everything because of my sob story.

No idea, but I'm open to a Ceolag redemption arc if he has one and I can believe it. But only as a friend, nothing sexual/romantic.

I don't have a real problem with her lying about the work she did, I understand that. It's the relationship part. I know the Kaija fans will say, she was ordered into a relationship and refused. Only getting into a relationship when she started feeling something. But, she still moved into a friendship with MC with ulterior motives, and when she started banging him, it conveniently made her job a lot easier.

Since we as the player had her forced upon us, we can see her in any way we can. I choose to see her as a FWB, rather than someone I was in love with. If we can have a working friendship (even without 100% trust) that helps MC's goals, I can live with it. Her skills and knowledge will be useful, so I'm kind of using her now. LOL.

Personally, I don't think we will get any further redemption, the coming to save MC life was it. And while she's sad, she's really not sorry at all about anything. In fact, she says, if she did it all again, she would do it the same way. I really can't see there is anything further to be revealed.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

No idea, but I'm open to a Ceolag redemption arc if he has one and I can believe it. But only as a friend, nothing sexual/romantic.

Nope, not even that. I wanna see her redemption arc so I can dig her grave deeper, nothing else.

It's the relationship part. I know the Kaija fans will say, she was ordered into a relationship and refused.

This is not correct, it's explicitly mentioned in the game. They tried to order, MC's shitbag father prevented it and her only order was stay close to MC, nothing about relationship part. She decided that. She also started the relationship before she starts feeling something. We kinda discussed this with all the screenshots and all.

Since we as the player had her forced upon us, we can see her in any way we can. I choose to see her as a FWB, rather than someone I was in love with. If we can have a working friendship (even without 100% trust) that helps MC's goals, I can live with it. Her skills and knowledge will be useful, so I'm kind of using her now. LOL.

Nope, never. Not a friend, not a FWB and especially not a gf. I agree on using part. I also am hopeful someday we'll get a revenge and make her miserable preferably using the skills she is teaching now.

Personally, I don't think we will get any further redemption, the coming to save MC life was it. And while she's sad, she's really not sorry at all about anything. In fact, she says, if she did it all again, she would do it the same way. I really can't see there is anything further to be revealed.

She is conflicted on love path about that but not enough. She is an evil harpy bitch and that thing will never ever change for me.

 

[MiltonPowers]

Nope, not even that. I wanna see her redemption arc so I can dig her grave deeper, nothing else.

Nope, never. Not a friend, not a FWB and especially not a gf. I agree on using part. I also am hopeful someday we'll get a revenge and make her miserable preferably using the skills she is teaching now.

She is conflicted on love path about that but not enough. She is an evil harpy bitch and that thing will never ever change for me.

I can feel your pain in your words, and I'm with you. I should have been clearer, I saw our past relationship as FWB, nothing more. And definitely not in the future.

This is not correct, it's explicitly mentioned in the game. They tried to order, MC's shitbag father prevented it and her only order was stay close to MC, nothing about relationship part. She decided that. She also started the relationship before she starts feeling something. We kinda discussed this with all the screenshots and all.

I remember the overall discussion, not the specifics. But, I think we're saying the same thing. She started a friendship with MC with ulterior motives. She may have started loving him at some point (or not), but she deceived him and was dishonest.

But she definitely says that she refused the order too and had trouble with the council. And then shitbag stepped in. She might have been lying though. If she was honest and the final order was to stay close, then she should have made absolutely sure it didn't become a relationship. That's on her (although I guess the council wouldn't have minded, since it's what they wanted in the first place).



But, like I said, she had an ulterior motive, and that friendship, just 'somehow' turned into a relationship. That's all on her. And she even admitted that made her job easier.



In conclusion, Yes, she is a conniving "evil harpy bitch".

 

[Dr.TSoni]

What if her greatest secret was she is not natural redhead but she dyes her hair?

 

[Maviarab]

*reads last few posts*....ahhhh more acolytes to the order....

My work here is almost done!

 

[MiltonPowers]

*reads last few posts*....ahhhh more acolytes to the order....

My work here is almost done!

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It's a tough call. Who hates Kaija the most. I know it's not me. I really hate her, but I can think of it least 2 that have me beat.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

It's a tough call. Who hates Kaija the most. I know it's not me. I really hate her, but I can think of it least 2 that have me beat.

I think Def might be No1. I don't really hate her, I just don't trust her as far as I could throw her as far as my MC is concerned. From a Templar point of view, she is very trustworthy and loyal. Since I play as the MC, I am very pissed off at her on his behalf.

 

[MiltonPowers]

I think Def might be No1. I don't really hate her, I just don't trust her as far as I could throw her as far as my MC is concerned. From a Templar point of view, she is very trustworthy and loyal. Since I play as the MC, I am very pissed off at her on his behalf.

I'd put my money on Def. Maviarab was the other one I thought of.

 

[Maviarab]

I think Def might be No1. I don't really hate her, I just don't trust her as far as I could throw her as far as my MC is concerned. From a Templar point of view, she is very trustworthy and loyal. Since I play as the MC, I am very pissed off at her on his behalf.

With your bad back GoA, you shouldn't be throwing anyone

I'd put my money on Def. Maviarab was the other one I thought of.

I can neither confirm nor deny....well, pretty much anything really

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

It's a tough call. Who hates Kaija the most. I know it's not me. I really hate her, but I can think of it least 2 that have me beat.

Who might that be I wonder? My money is on Joshy. Sometimes the thing he says make me pity on Kaija.

From a Templar point of view, she is very trustworthy and loyal.

Ugh.... and people dare to ask why I hate her so much. This alone is enough reason.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

With your bad back GoA, you shouldn't be throwing anyone

I can neither confirm nor deny....well, pretty much anything really

Tell me about it been up all night with the damn back.

Who might that be I wonder? My money is on Joshy. Sometimes the thing he says make me pity on Kaija.


Ugh.... and people dare to ask why I hate her so much. This alone is enough reason.

Definitely Joshy, he is a sick man.
You're taking pity on Kaija, you're slipping def.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Definitely Joshy, he is a sick man.
You're taking pity on Kaija, you're slipping def.

It should indicates how serious is the situation.

 

[Joshy92]

Sick? Guys I'm a romantic now excuse me while I imagine all the romantic things I'll do to Kaija.
Oh, and BTW I bet she'll wear some sexy lingerie when we go on our first date since that little incident.

 

[Maviarab]

Sick? Guys I'm a romantic now excuse me while I imagine all the romantic things I'll do to Kaija.
Oh, and BTW I bet she'll wear some sexy lingerie when we go on our first date since that little incident.

And who is she wearing it for?

 

[Joshy92]

And who is she wearing it for?

For her black lover.....oh wait that's that other game.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

For her black lover.....oh wait that's that other game.

Maybe for her elf lover then?

 

[Elduriel]

Maybe for her elf lover then?

or that Kevin guy

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

or that Kevin guy

With that much steroid use, I don't think so.

 

[Maviarab]

Maybe for her elf lover then?

or that Kevin guy

Wait....Kevin the black elf?

That would get Joshy going!

 

[Joshy92]

Wait....Kevin the black elf?

That would get Joshy going!

Are you trying to blow my penis up? I'm going to be thinking about that all day now lol.