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Was she? I though it was one of the elves at the funeral, the one who nods her head to you.
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I must have missed that bit while I breezed through the update
I'm reading it from the beginning now to catch things up.
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Listen to Medb when you're talking to her. She tells you some words of Ljósálfar language and with them you understand the ceremony in the end.I must have missed that bit while I breezed through the update
I'm reading it from the beginning now to catch things up.
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Or people could actually 'read' the 'novel' part of a VN and not just...blow through it...then wonder why they don't understand stuff....
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Or the fact that Medb should invite a person to such an emotional event she doesn't like or trusts.
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It is implied in what Medb say's , plus it is said in Alfar language. a bit dificult to notice.I must have missed that bit while I breezed through the update
I'm reading it from the beginning now to catch things up.
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and the actual translation is included in the script
med_w "Namaari, min ethiram ainu." #Farewell, my beloved daughter.
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Even if that's true, it just calls further attention to how shallow the MC's actions were absent sweet-talking Medb. We spend all this time with Finnabair but somehow she never bothers to mention we've already met her mother? That feels less like a "friend" and more like someone you met at a business conference.
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Also, just before we get too far down this rabbit hole, I should point out we might be jumping at shadows. The achievement for the scene is titled "Daughter of the Sun;" presumably we aren't meant to take that literally. It's entirely possible Medb was speaking metaphorically; that was my initial take when I finally saw the scene.
That said, if Medb is Finnabair's biological daughter it would explain a few otherwise curious details, so I'm inclined to believe it now that I think about it.
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They're Álfr. They work in other ways as humans and also MC didn't share family details either. Medb and the Callister brat were bonding, sure, but that doesn't mean they have to talk about their love lives and their family. After all both are trying to find out if they can trust the other person.
Finnabair a daughter of the sun like all Ljosálfar. Medb explained that. But for the person who gave birth to her and is the biological mother it's Medb. It's literally said during the ceremony.
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Yeah, I understand the black speech of Mordor but not that elven language
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I wouldn't know if it wasn't said over here in the thread, I mean if I say "Despedida che membykuña ahayhuetéva"Yeah, I understand the black speech of Mordor but not that elven language
(Farewell my beloved daughter in Guaraní ) who would understand it ? right ? only thing I got honestly was that Medb said something which ended with daughter, which Medb herself taught us.
Anyway, the next logical would be that MC gets to know more when he is escorted out of Alfheimr to the Nevewhere lands.
so patience is the key.
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Again it's all about Medb. Why am I the only one concerned by Finnabair in her own right?
Also, the MC didn't share his family details because everyone was already well aware of them - both who his parents were and the fact he resents them concealing the Templars from him.
We're told offhand that "Ainu" means daughter, but translation is never as easy as a one-to-one comparison. Words, especially basic ones like 'daughter' can have a lot of connotations that don't map directly from one culture to another. And even in English, daughter is often used to mean things other than a female, biological child. Just because Medb uses the word Ainu (especially in a setting as prone to euphemisms as a funeral), it doesn't automatically mean she gave birth to Finnabair. But it does seem like Mab's eulogy describes Finnabair specifically as the daughter of Ailill and the daughter of Medb, so in this case I think the literal implication is warranted.
I still don't see why that revelation should limit access to the thematic end of the whole chapter, though. Medb isn't the primary character in the game, yet there's very little room for error to see the scene without following her path, and zero margin for error if you want to see the scene without getting to the point of a potential Medb will consider a future romantic relationship. That's just bonkers. And if there IS some strange issue with learning Finnabair's genealogy, at least make an alternative version of the scene where the MC can watch from a distance, too far way to hear the dialog. We need *some* sort of closure for the character who actually died.
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Mab says "Ainu hen Ailill." "Ainu hen Medb." and you argue it can mean something else????
In the code its - if b1_ch5_sc21_min_ebra == False:
jump end_chapter5
So why should Medb invite you if you don't befriend Finnabair?
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Uh, no, I specifically pointed out that's why it very likely means exactly what Treominia said. I'm just trying to point out there is some room for ambiguity here. Certainly enough that I don't see why it would be a problem to make the scene more easily accessible.
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But its very easy to get the scene, all you need are 2 triggers
if b1_ch4_sc18_her_call == True and b1_ch5_sc21_get_closer == True:
so if you try to ignore every Medb point in the game its honestly on you
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What are you talking about? I ended the chapter with 14/17 Medb points and both of the flags you mentioned, and I still couldn't get the "Daughter of the Sun" scene. According to Maviarab's most excellent walkthrough, that's because I need both Finnabair declaring you "Min Ebra" *AND* 15+ points with Medb.
It's the 'and' that I object to. Min Ebra should be enough on its own.
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Okay i missed the if LPmedb < 15:
but still, would you personally invite someone you don't like to such an event?