Sorry, but I have problems with those who claim to be their legacy. Some members of freemasons and related groups. My work is mostly in politics and we have a relationship of love and hate with several groups and individuals who once in a while presents themselves as modern day templars. I don't like that kind of influence in the medium where I work and the activism they sometimes engage have made us crash in a few instances.
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Bro, do you hear yourself?
She serves in an organization that maintains secrecy, has a clear hierarchy, discipline and goals that are known only to some extent to its agents. In this sense, there is no difference between the Order and any agency with three letters. She is just as brainwashed as the average soldier, police officer, detective or government agent, she serves and protects.
Decisions that change the past are entirely the developer's fault.
On the other hand, they add additional variability to the game and make it more interesting. If you don't like the way Kaija treats you, it's because of your choices towards her, and you alone are to blame.A skirt is just a skirt. I've seen shorter ones, I've seen more revealing ones. Right in this game. Not associated with any sluttiness, in no way indicating that the owner of the skirt is a whore. These are your prejudices, nothing more.
By the way, if you saw her, MC and other people in their outfits when they were in Neverwhere, then the skirt question is disappears on its own. She was probably in Neverwhere before she came home.
There is a whore in your head, be careful with her, she might murder you one day!
In my job (I was ellected and reellect two years ago) most of the time we are paranoids. We see danger in other groups that disputed with us and even among our coleagues and unfortunaly most of the time our gut feelings are right. It's an entirely peculiar environment and now and them our interests and the interests of groups sponsored by those who claim to be modern templaries (some politicians, public administrators indicated by them, social observatories and rivalries) made us crash in a few issues. The social observatory in my city was formed by 9 mansonic lodges and a rock extraction company and it was pretty intense when they opposed to two bills that were important to us.
I don't think she serves and protects in the same scope as those professionals you mentioned. They have a hidden agenda in this game that attracted hatrad from otherwise peaceful and noble beings. I only mentioned the skirt because it was show in the beggining of the game as a cue to a double hidden life, it's not prejudice of my part, just an observation about a plot element.Bro, do you hear yourself?
She serves in an organization that maintains secrecy, has a clear hierarchy, discipline and goals that are known only to some extent to its agents. In this sense, there is no difference between the Order and any agency with three letters. She is just as brainwashed as the average soldier, police officer, detective or government agent, she serves and protects.
Decisions that change the past are entirely the developer's fault.
A skirt is just a skirt. I've seen shorter ones, I've seen more revealing ones. Right in this game. Not associated with any sluttiness, in no way indicating that the owner of the skirt is a whore. These are your prejudices, nothing more.
By the way, if you saw her, MC and other people in their outfits when they were in Neverwhere, then the skirt question is disappears on its own. She was probably in Neverwhere before she came home.
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Sounds like every govt agency.
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum
Her panties and bra were lying next to her skirt. What does this tell us about her hidden life?
Shouldn't she have put them in the washing machine right away to hide... uh... any possible traces of... hmm... her job.
Look, I'm not ruling anything out in this game, especially given this twist with the hotheaded young Finnabair.
But to conclude that the skirt's owner was on a secret seduction mission is, in my opinion, too far-fetched.
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You can rule out Kaija sleeping with someone else Ceolag said that years ago.Sounds like every govt agency.
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum
Her panties and bra were lying next to her skirt. What does this tell us about her hidden life?
Shouldn't she have put them in the washing machine right away to hide... uh... any possible traces of... hmm... her job.
Look, I'm not ruling anything out in this game, especially given this twist with the hotheaded young Finnabair.
But to conclude that the skirt's owner was on a secret seduction mission is, in my opinion, too far-fetched.
They are mostly a family centered order where most of the members are sons and daughters of senior members. Very few find out about them and request to join. They are like zealots who want to do anything and everything for what they believe. They are indoctrinated since very young and their actions are an element of instability. Remember that the Elvar wants them dissolved and out of Neverwhere and Elvar are not imperalistic warmongers.Sounds like every govt agency.
And this is where I shut up, because politics and religion are off-topic and forbidden by the general rules of this forum
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Enough already.
Your job, your life....have absolutely zero to do with this story and/or game
Sure you're job is very interesting but no one cares and it is...off-topic.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-neverwhere-tales-off-topic-discussion.236175/#post-15587657
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From what we have seen so far, the Elvar appear to interact with the Templars as representatives of humans.
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Oh, come on, Grand Master, enough of these jokes, they brought your predecessor to auto-da-fé. We still have elves to slaughter here, and you've already gotten drunk in the Order's cellars.
Its kinda funny how the templars are apparently a evil cult which indoctrinates their own kids and yet at the same time the MC's parents are HATED here for not involving their kids in their work/"cult" sooner and keeping them as far away from it as possible.
Make up your goddamn mind
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Templars are just as hated. Only 2 so far in the organisation we have seen that don't seem like complete douches.Its kinda funny how the templars are a evil cult which indoctrinates their own kids and yet at the same time the MC's parents are HATED here for not involving their kids in their work/"cult" sooner and keeping them as far away from it as possible.
Make up your goddamn mind
Also, no one ever said they wanted the parents to 'involve' them....
I mean i dont even disagree that the templars seem to be a shit organisation (like most organisations like that) lol
There isnt this one great everybodys darling faction in this game (which is good imo).
There are a lot of people blaming the parents for not being honest/revealing the truth. And im not even saying thats wrong per se.
And telling your immature son that youre the grandmaster of the templars and that other dimensions exist is pretty much involving them, who wouldnt be curious after knowing that?
You could tell it would at least be the mc's own decision like that ... but is it really when you grow up hearing tales about neverwhere and all these fantasy elements or could it be seen as indoctrination already?
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Why immature? No one is expecting him to tell a godamn 6 year old.
Who also said anything about telling about them who you are exactly and about other dimensions and shit. You're extrapolating and fantasising.
In my opinion the MC is even still immature at the start of the story and only slowly got better over the course of the story and is in a somewhat good place now.
I mean .. what else were they supposed to tell him if not about neverwhere or being templars? The whole Kaija thing is connected to that, revealing the one without the other doesnt make a lot of sense or am i wrong?
There is a valid reason to tell the MC and the sister and its because they are in danger due to it. But you kinda have to explain everything if it isnt supposed to be completly nonsensical.
And based on that, humanity is lucky they didn't yet decide to deploy alfar version of nukes.
That alone shows how patient and understanding Alfar leadership is.
Personal opinion, not involving him is the only good thing MCs parents have done so far in the story.Its kinda funny how the templars are apparently a evil cult which indoctrinates their own kids and yet at the same time the MC's parents are HATED here for not involving their kids in their work/"cult" sooner and keeping them as far away from it as possible.
Make up your goddamn mind
Everything else they did makes them shitty parents.
I was just explaining my hatred for those who claim to be the "legacy of templars". Before I was in my current position, I supported a candidate who lost and the winner, a freemason, put his brother (blood, not from the order) in my place and transfered me to a very distant place. There were other related to the last government but also a bunch of freemasons, demolays, Job's daughters, order of rainbow, etc. Most relatives of those in power. They treated us as trash making us do hard work in cleaning, loading and unloading trucks, cleaning spider infested buildings and instructed others to never talk to us. As soon the government denied wage increase and I detected revolt in others, I joined the leading for a general strike that interrupted activities for 15 days and it brought my name to proeminence. They "punished me" by paying my wages just for staying at home for six months without working or disturbing them. Well, it's off topic, but I posted that and this just to explain why I deeply abhor groups and people who claim to be related to templars and like.Enough already.
Your job, your life....have absolutely zero to do with this story and/or game
Sure you're job is very interesting but no one cares and it is...off-topic.
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-neverwhere-tales-off-topic-discussion.236175/#post-15587657
But they want the dissolution of the order. It's their demand for the kidnapping.
My mother and father told me I was adopted when I was 7 years old. I believe they spared me a lot of trauma and suffering if I had it figured out later in life. I am glad for not having parents like MC.
Their crime is even worse by staging a relationship just for keeping an eye on him. This single move is unforgiveble.