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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.6.0.2] [Ceolag]

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minibaer12

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Wolfram99 said:
2 of the 4 LI's start off the wrong foot, seems perfectly balanced to me :D
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I actually played through it again yesterday and I stick to this: I am very skeptical about the female material on offer.

Number 1 Kaija: She played a role in my very first playthrough until the end of CH1 and the beginning of CH2, then no more = 0/22 points

Number 2 Elea: I just can't warm to her. I don't see her as anything more than a friend = 21/27 points

Number 3 Fiona: I have a strange feeling about her family background and so I don't trust her yet. So I see her as a friend with reservations = 14/17 points

Number 4 Medb: Even if the score suggests otherwise, I am still skeptical. So far it is just a means to an end: 2 things are very important to me:
- The complete Alfar training program
- Attending the Finnabair ceremony
= 17/17 points

And finally there is still this statement from post #1:

How you deal with this new situation, this new world, who you trust or not... that is up to you.
 
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PaxHadrian17

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Wolfram99 said:
Sure, but one LI betrayed you, the other has put a death warrant on you, the other 2 have been relatively normal so far.
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When the MC comes, uninvited and unannounced, to attempt to have a meeting with the ambassador of the Alfar, Medb, he is given safe passage to see her - and the Alfar don't violate this safe passage agreement.

The MC came on his own accord, not as part of a delegation representing anyone else, Templars or other.

He is unaware of their customs and Finnabair takes advantage of this, prompting the MC to draw his sword, implicitly accepting the duel to the death, regardless of whatever protections 'guest right' might have given him. His lack of awareness is Not Medb's death warrant on him - it is the MC's lack of understanding of a culture different than his that puts him at risk.

In point of fact - the MC earns some limited freedom/his life by either sparing Finnabair, giving Medb a reason to see him as different than the humans she hates, or killing Finnabair in a duel while defending himself, following the customs of the Alfar to the letter.

At 17/17 points, Medb even goes so far as to ensure that the MC sees the Finnabair farewell ceremony and leaves Alfheimer safely versus becoming a political prisoner - again, hardly a death warrant...

Whether someone likes or dislikes Medb, she is acting consistently withing the boundaries of her culture, as it has been presented to us.

Some might even challenge that Medb is getting soft, taking the side of a Human over the Alfar by Not keeping the MC as a prisoner, given the coming conflict between the Alfar and the Templars.

Cheers!! :coffee:
 
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PaxHadrian17 said:
He is unaware of their customs and Finnabair takes advantage of this
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The customs can be whatever, i see the situation from MC eyes as a human that is not versed in multiworld politics and policies.
The custom may as well have been that on every 3rd tuesday of every 3rd month a non-local can be slain without consequences.
Barely getting a sorry from Finnabair and Medb(less so) for ruthlessly attempting to end MC's life.

The trope from enemies to friends to lovers is a fun one, but in my opinion the two characters need to be proper enemies, where both want to get rid of the other. Here the case is more like one sided abuse.
 
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Wolfram99 said:
The customs can be whatever, i see the situation from MC eyes as a human that is not versed in multiworld politics and policies.
The custom may as well have been that on every 3rd tuesday of every 3rd month a non-local can be slain without consequences.
Barely getting a sorry from Finnabair and Medb(less so) for ruthlessly attempting to end MC's life.

The trope from enemies to friends to lovers is a fun one, but in my opinion the two characters need to be proper enemies, where both want to get rid of the other. Here the case is more like one sided abuse.
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You're seeing it completely wrong. Everything I see, hear or read from both parties is full of prejudices, clichés and who knows what else.

Our virgin MC now approaches the Alfars of his own free will and offers them his hand. As expected, he was received accordingly; cold, reserved, even aggressively hostile. Now the Alfars suddenly have to realize that our MC doesn't fit the image they have of people.

The Alfars should also be allowed to change their minds.
 
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minibaer12 said:
As expected, he was received accordingly; cold, reserved, even aggressively hostile.
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That i am fine with, different cultures and whatnot.

minibaer12 said:
Now the Alfars suddenly have to realize that our MC doesn't fit the image they have of people.

The Alfars should also be allowed to change their minds.
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And that they can do freely, but to brush/write off proper life threatening actions to just "tee hee xenophobic customs of the elves", is not that great in my opinion.


For me Finn barely managed to redeem herself by the end of the chapter.
I think someone posted the idea that if instead of Finn it was just an elven bloke, he would be slain 99% of the time, just like the mercs at the start of the game.
 
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Hey everyone,

Sorry, there won't be a dev log this week.
I'm writing this on my mobile phone while sitting in bed.
I caught the Influenza from the fam (all of them had it since last Saturday), so now I've been in bed since Wednesday.
I haven't felt this shitty since I got hit by Covid a few years ago...

Anyway, I'll skip this week's dev log and preview renders and try to get out of bed as quickly as possible.

Stay safe and healthy,
Ceo
 
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