- Jul 12, 2020
- 14,400
- 35,669
- 997
Funny...you spelt Helmet wrong....You know, when in doubt, I always ask myself "what would the single greatest protagonist in all of known media do?"
Mal knows best. Always. Be like Mal.
- Thread starter 7767
- Start date
- Mar 28, 2021
- 7,777
- 17,015
- 803
sure, they have traditions. Medb allows the fight, as per tradition I guess, we're not given a lot of info about it. MC kills Finn. He's allowed to leave unharmed. They are not obligated to make friends with him.
The_Man_With_No_Name
Well-Known Member
- Dec 16, 2022
- 1,355
- 5,364
- 523
He's in elf land, gets challenged by elf rules and accepts. Mebd wouldn't stop it. If you die you die, if not, shame but oh well. And sure, he was taking a gamble letting her live, but if he comes on a diplomatic mission and kills someone at the first opportunity he is legally allowed to, it cuts your peace mediation plan short
You are still an enemy. Showing restraint gives a kernal of doubt in their minds as to why you are. So Mebd let's you stay and sees what your intent is.
Yuri L
Active Member
- Apr 28, 2017
- 587
- 1,151
- 278
No, I never talked about them being friends. I talked about him getting treated as an enemy for that act and then getting imprisoned. They made him a political prisoner. That was hilarious and something similar came up in a game called Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward and I had the same reaction there.
I get it, coming on a diplomatic mission doesn't mean that person can't defend himself when they're tricked into a duel to the death. It's all just 'do as I say, not do as I do'.
Pixillin'
Well-Known Member
- Oct 8, 2024
- 1,906
- 2,386
- 341
I don't really think Medb has a choice - from the way Finn describes it, she has a right to challenge you. I think later when Medb stops it it's because the challenge is over. Finn's blood is up and she's embarrassed, she doesn't want the fight to end that way so she pretends it's still going then Medb says (basically) it's over, you lost and he spared you - meaning you now owe a life debt stupid, you need to stop. But I don't think Medb really has a choice initially but to let it proceed.
- Jul 12, 2020
- 14,400
- 35,669
- 997
Pixillin'
Well-Known Member
- Oct 8, 2024
- 1,906
- 2,386
- 341
No, you don't understand. The MC wants to make peace - it's a diplomatic mission in his mind but not officially. No one sent him, and no one invited him so he's officially not a diplomat, just an enemy. He has to make them see him as something other than an enemy and killing Medb's daughter is not how you do that. They would have been well within their rights to just kill him and dump the body somewhere.
- Aug 20, 2023
- 724
- 2,182
- 376
The honorouble thing to do would be for Finn to commit sudoku since she disgraced their cultural "battle until someone's dead" by being the loser and still being alive.
/s
ename144
Engaged Member
- Sep 20, 2018
- 3,740
- 15,524
- 681
But Medb does wind up stopping it, that's the problem. She forces Finnabair to abandon the duel while Finn's very much alive, which means she could either have forced Finnabair to abandon it from the start, or at the very least could have told the MC he didn't need to kill Finnabair to win the duel. That would have been rather relevant information when Finnabair refused to yield after being disarmed and held at sword point, don't you think?
Yuri L
Active Member
- Apr 28, 2017
- 587
- 1,151
- 278
I was replying to the user with the hypothetical. I know it's not a diplomatic mission but he wants to make peace. But my point stands about the hypocrisy. They have rules or traditions until they don't. It's all BS politics.
Pixillin'
Well-Known Member
- Oct 8, 2024
- 1,906
- 2,386
- 341
I don't think so. I mean, it's not like we get a chance to read the rules but I think that initially she has the right to challenge you to a fight, but then after you spare her - Finn wants to keep fighting because she doesn't like the outcome but Medb is basically declaring the fight over (kinda like a referee) and says you won. That's how I read it anyway.
I think you mean Sepuku. Sudoku is a puzzle with numbers...
ename144
Engaged Member
- Sep 20, 2018
- 3,740
- 15,524
- 681
The fight was in no way over; by time Medb intervened, Finnabair was already re-armed and able (and very willing) to continue. Besides, the victory conditions were very clear: "death." Why specify the duel is "to the death" if it can be called on points at any time?
EDIT: I am now amused at the idea of professional Alfar duels ending in "technical death."
- Aug 20, 2023
- 724
- 2,182
- 376
I would atleast make sure she won't go stabbing another human again.You know, when in doubt, I always ask myself "what would the single greatest protagonist in all of known media do?"
Mal knows best. Always. Be like Mal.
Life is sacred you know
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Pixillin'
Well-Known Member
- Oct 8, 2024
- 1,906
- 2,386
- 341
It basically was to the death, MC was one flick of his wrist from ending Finn - but chose not to, which is how you get the in you need to talk to them, rather than being killed or kicked out. And if Finn is as trained as they claim (200 years plus of almost daily training) her being on her feet and armed again should be about two seconds.The fight was in no way over; by time Medb intervened, Finnabair was already re-armed and able (and very willing) to continue. Besides, the victory conditions were very clear: "death." Why specify the duel is "to the death" if it can be called on points at any time?
EDIT: I am now amused at the idea of professional Alfar duels ending in "technical death."
ename144
Engaged Member
- Sep 20, 2018
- 3,740
- 15,524
- 681
Look, you can't have it both ways. Either Finnabair was already "basically" dead the instant the MC paused to talk to her, or she was still a dangerous combatant and the MC lacked the guts to finish her off. In the latter case, Medb should have let Finnabair kill him. In the former case, Medb should have ended the duel before the MC got to make his choice - or at least tried to. If the MC chose to kill Finnabair after the duel was over, that would make Medb's decision to imprison him a lot more reasonable.
Pixillin'
Well-Known Member
- Oct 8, 2024
- 1,906
- 2,386
- 341
Dude ... you just do you. This isn't even a tiny bit complicated but I'm not going to keep trying to explain 1+1=2.
Canto Forte
Post Pro
- Jul 10, 2017
- 22,556
- 28,047
- 1,035
Yeah ... MC shows up with a known smuggler assassin known to be dealing in black market stuff, which goes nowhere, so the minute it is decided MC will be brought in, basically getting his green card, all bets are off: Finn cannot outrun her laws and the authority of her mom - law and tradition trump wanton murder, which is what Finn wanted. Templars just had a truce enacted with the Alfar when they did not fight it out but gave back their only leverage - highmaster.
The duel is a legal thing—it gets sanctioned and declared valid and refereed and ended by the authority. MedB is the authority - she tells us this much: she cannot tag in unless Finn lawfully loses—she did and the fight was called to be done, over, kaput, ended - it was stopped by the authority. If it had been just a brawl, the dad would have already slapped his idiot daughter into submission for this egregious, shameful stunt.
The duel is a legal thing—it gets sanctioned and declared valid and refereed and ended by the authority. MedB is the authority - she tells us this much: she cannot tag in unless Finn lawfully loses—she did and the fight was called to be done, over, kaput, ended - it was stopped by the authority. If it had been just a brawl, the dad would have already slapped his idiot daughter into submission for this egregious, shameful stunt.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
Log in or register now.
Last edited:
That's what she is telling you, but she is happy to be part of my NTR harem.