I thought each of the girls' respective two quirks were individually optional, they not?
Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.5b] [Ron Chon]
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Quirks:
Until end of Summer, there are this many opportunities to encourage/discourage quirks:
13x Rogue.History.update("submissiveness_encouraged")
8x Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
8x Laura.History.update("dominance_encouraged")
6x Laura.History.update("protectiveness_encouraged")
9x Jean.History.update("dominance_encouraged")
8x Jean.History.update("siblings_encouraged")
Whenever you encourage a quirk (thumb-up) at least two times more than discouraging it, the quirk will be added to the girl's database. Enc-Disc >= 2 = Quirk added.
There are definitely checks if a quirk has been encouraged or discouraged before, what will change dialogue accordingly although without significant story impact so far.
The girls will keep offering the mentioned numbers of opportunities to either encourage their behavior or not.
At least until end of Winter, there is no real disadvantage in discouraging the girls' quirks. Sometimes you get even a little more points as reward when denying, or often no points at all no matter whatever you choose to do in these special decisions.
If someone doesn't like these, discourage them, but there is no real way to completely shut their special behavior off for the rest of the story so far. These are pesky quirks after all that can be hardly get rid off.
We'll have to see what new girls in the future will offer.
I personally like the quirks a lot and love being the lil bro and feel safe in the arms of a wild strong-girl. And if you got a bad day, there is always Rogue eagerly anticipating her good slappin.
About player quirks:
Having non-pink/brown skin color or inhuman ears has sometimes dialogue support, besides visuals during the hookup actions.
The dialogue choices give a little freedom being more arse or not, but it's true that being ass - typically the last dialogue option - usually leads to stat point reductions what no one really wants.
Blame it to the goody girls maybe that they similarly react to harsh words and can't be impressed like an evildoer.
Next, there are also Determined (full moon)/Reluctant (crescent moon)/Bitter (star) dialogue options.
I'd say these can also be seen as roleplayed quirk. There aren't many occasions yet where the girls react to these archetype line choices. In the end, the typical determined hero is still prefered although Laura once favors the Bitter guy. There is no real penalty to roleplay here whatever, except on one occasion Rogue vs a bitter comment.
As Charles says: "I would like to emphasize: this is not the be-all, end-all of who you are as a person."
I advise, roleplay as you see how it works for your character best. There are so many point reward occasions in the game, that you can easily live with being an arsy hero. You will see different reactions from the girls and maybe sometimes even make them angry to rush off.
Enjoy the bad consequences by making up to them by gifts later.
The game has a lot to offer with the still few but complex non-player characters and their reactions. It mustn't always be the perfect way.
Until end of Summer, there are this many opportunities to encourage/discourage quirks:
13x Rogue.History.update("submissiveness_encouraged")
8x Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
8x Laura.History.update("dominance_encouraged")
6x Laura.History.update("protectiveness_encouraged")
9x Jean.History.update("dominance_encouraged")
8x Jean.History.update("siblings_encouraged")
Whenever you encourage a quirk (thumb-up) at least two times more than discouraging it, the quirk will be added to the girl's database. Enc-Disc >= 2 = Quirk added.
There are definitely checks if a quirk has been encouraged or discouraged before, what will change dialogue accordingly although without significant story impact so far.
The girls will keep offering the mentioned numbers of opportunities to either encourage their behavior or not.
At least until end of Winter, there is no real disadvantage in discouraging the girls' quirks. Sometimes you get even a little more points as reward when denying, or often no points at all no matter whatever you choose to do in these special decisions.
If someone doesn't like these, discourage them, but there is no real way to completely shut their special behavior off for the rest of the story so far. These are pesky quirks after all that can be hardly get rid off.
We'll have to see what new girls in the future will offer.
I personally like the quirks a lot and love being the lil bro and feel safe in the arms of a wild strong-girl. And if you got a bad day, there is always Rogue eagerly anticipating her good slappin.
About player quirks:
Having non-pink/brown skin color or inhuman ears has sometimes dialogue support, besides visuals during the hookup actions.
The dialogue choices give a little freedom being more arse or not, but it's true that being ass - typically the last dialogue option - usually leads to stat point reductions what no one really wants.
Blame it to the goody girls maybe that they similarly react to harsh words and can't be impressed like an evildoer.
Next, there are also Determined (full moon)/Reluctant (crescent moon)/Bitter (star) dialogue options.
I'd say these can also be seen as roleplayed quirk. There aren't many occasions yet where the girls react to these archetype line choices. In the end, the typical determined hero is still prefered although Laura once favors the Bitter guy. There is no real penalty to roleplay here whatever, except on one occasion Rogue vs a bitter comment.
As Charles says: "I would like to emphasize: this is not the be-all, end-all of who you are as a person."
I advise, roleplay as you see how it works for your character best. There are so many point reward occasions in the game, that you can easily live with being an arsy hero. You will see different reactions from the girls and maybe sometimes even make them angry to rush off.
Enjoy the bad consequences by making up to them by gifts later.
The game has a lot to offer with the still few but complex non-player characters and their reactions. It mustn't always be the perfect way.
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Big sis really does make my wildest dreams come true 
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You need to improve their friendship, invite them to the pool via phone and press swim
I haven't tested jealousy yet, but at least the "mad" status is reset on the next day.
If you still have to date for a quest someone then I guess you have to pause this activity for a while and try boosting Rogue's stats to accept other girls in the relation first. Poly requirement is 250/600 as the dating quest shows, but Rogue possibly has to complete her "love" quest first to accept other girls. That's at least what I had noted from my first session. I'm still busy with the "dating" quest, so no idea yet if something has changed from 0.5a to 0.5b.
Improving the relationship is possibly also still required, like becoming Good Friends to each other.
THis does actually encourage me to play thru with real answers instead of testing and rewinding what gives me best points. I can be an arse and keep hers too!
Dont know if its been reported or not but i noticed some inconsitencies in the plot due to - Seasonal skill and level caps lifted.
If you finish the love quest for Laura wants to talk to you in her room
dont know if its intended or she is a Laura that came from the future but i can assure you that in my playtrhough it didnt happened cause im postponing the season till i maxed all the girls.
If you finish the love quest for Laura wants to talk to you in her room
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Is it possible to complete Rogue's Optional Main Quest: Watch some cartoons together, and Optional Main Quest: Overhear her family phone call? I can't get them to trigger while having completed everything else.
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I would recommend rushing through Fall season. because your XP gains from class double after that.
But they do not go up further in subsequent seasons. there is no point to further rushing afterwards
But they do not go up further in subsequent seasons. there is no point to further rushing afterwards
I've just reached the end of Spring completing all dating and main objectives with optionals.
All these events are tied to a random roll for each time of the day. As long as the girls are in normal mood and not following the player then these objective spawns should happen....sometimes. You can always try to quickload a save that typically also rerolls these chances.
Some objectives can only happen at a certain time but these are rather rare. Mouse hover over the objective text reveals details.
About my experience with 0.5b so far. I'm quite content so far.
The season end stats without finales:
Fall
Rogue L292 T313
Laura L191 T285
Jean L275 T233
Null Level 3
Winter
Rogue L458 T477
Laura L415 T467
Jean L523 T463
Null Level 4
Spring
Rogue L714 T 689
Laura L695 T663
Jean T750 L681
Null Level 5
Typically attended class twice per day with all girls.
Danger Room at evening during week, more often at weekends
Studies at night or evening at beginning to quickly do some main objectives to unlock optionals.
Events for optional objectives usually take no time, hence can be done in between.
Visted only 3 times the pool but sunbathed twice in a row at weekends during midday in total what was enough to reach Best Friends among Rogue and Laura, and Good Friends for Jean during season Spring. No real grind thanks to attending class that also boosts friendship slowly.
The Dating quest was started at end of Winter for the first date with everyone, and in Spring continued until all three dates were completely shortly after each other for all girls. I always picked Laura first, followed by Jean and then Rogue.
Love quests haven't trigged yet what I reserve for Summer after doing the Spring finale next.
I admit I was quite job-lazy compared to my first session with 0.5a last time. With more stamina, it gets a bit easier to squeeze within a time of day. However, I already have purchased all Mutant Couture clothes and about half of X-Treme Intimates for the fun of it so far.
No gifts purchased and given so far, as I still had no need for them.
I don't think I'm going to get trouble with polyamory as I have reached enough points (250/600) and enough friendship among everyone. Let's see tomorrow when the love quests trigger for everyone.
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Not much of a fan of the new art for Rogue's BJ/hands and knees to be honest, but maybe that's just me.
Thanks for the update anyway!
Thanks for the update anyway!
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In a something's off or uncanny kind of way, or it's just too pretty to nut to?
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Rogue's eyes look maybe unusual large there if you compare it with the older girls' cgi.
According to the roadmap, there will be more cgi replacements and adjustments for 0.6. The Rogue one was possibly just meant as preview in the minor 0.5b update/hotfix.
Roadmap: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-null-hypothesis-v0-5b-ron-chon.138294/post-14227499
According to the roadmap, there will be more cgi replacements and adjustments for 0.6. The Rogue one was possibly just meant as preview in the minor 0.5b update/hotfix.
Roadmap: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-null-hypothesis-v0-5b-ron-chon.138294/post-14227499
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Oh, I'm so lucky I do constantly manual saves...
Well, looks like some clothes still crash like I once reported for 0.5a.
I was just going to play on finishing Spring season when loading my last save caused a crash.
The reason was the very last purchase from X-Treme Intimates: Grey Thong (Laura).
I tested the Green Thong (Rogue) which also caused a load-crash. I have unfortunately not so much cash at moment for multiple purchases for testing, but there seem to be more items that I still miss from the shop that cause crashes.
I had already purchased all XTI clothes except those from season summer (4) for Jean which seem to work fine.
I have also already purchased all clothes from Mutant Couture which work fine too.
To be sure, I went through plenty other older saves which still load fine. I also see no savegame bloating like in 0.5a before.
How to reproduce: after loading my save (10-1), purchase e.g. the first item from the XTI shop list "Grey Thong" and give it to Laura. Save and reload.
Crash report is inside my archive together with save game which is still loadable. I placed all girls in the mall for testing.
It's a mean crash bug. You could play for hours without ever reloading until you notice it the next day...
I better won't purchase any further clothes again.
Well, looks like some clothes still crash like I once reported for 0.5a.
I was just going to play on finishing Spring season when loading my last save caused a crash.
The reason was the very last purchase from X-Treme Intimates: Grey Thong (Laura).
I tested the Green Thong (Rogue) which also caused a load-crash. I have unfortunately not so much cash at moment for multiple purchases for testing, but there seem to be more items that I still miss from the shop that cause crashes.
I had already purchased all XTI clothes except those from season summer (4) for Jean which seem to work fine.
I have also already purchased all clothes from Mutant Couture which work fine too.
To be sure, I went through plenty other older saves which still load fine. I also see no savegame bloating like in 0.5a before.
How to reproduce: after loading my save (10-1), purchase e.g. the first item from the XTI shop list "Grey Thong" and give it to Laura. Save and reload.
Crash report is inside my archive together with save game which is still loadable. I placed all girls in the mall for testing.
It's a mean crash bug. You could play for hours without ever reloading until you notice it the next day...
I better won't purchase any further clothes again.
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Sooo when will we get other girl aside from this 3?there is plenty like Kitty Pryde, Storm, Jubilee, Emma Frost?
Give other girls the chance & make it worthwhile just like this 3 too
Give other girls the chance & make it worthwhile just like this 3 too
I honestly prefer that they focus just in this three for now. They have been doing a great job at developing the art and story and adding more characters could result in lowering the total quality of the game. I don´t mind them taking the time to properly create this game.
If you check my link to the roadmap above in my other post, the summer finale is planned to happen around end of year.
As the story for chapter 1 is already more or less done, it would be too complicated to insert new girls there, so we have to wait for chapter 2 then.
Storm is surely the best candidate as we have already gathered a couple of stat point rewards for her too. She is already integrated in the game files, so not too much work to start some serious storytelling about her.
Damn, she is such an unbearable tease in her black uniform, that I'd gladly accept whatever quirk she gets, like adopting me as son instead of lil bro this time.
Kitty and Jube can surely be expected too for this school life, given their young age.
These three more should be enough for chapter 2.
Too bad we still have to wait that long though...
I also think it's still important that the characters of chapter 1 may not suffer a story-death due too many more girls. Happens too often in other games sadly.
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