Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.6a.beta] [Ron Chon]

[b_w_r]

Omg the girls are clickable! Why not make this more obvious?!

Having one UI hide (eg phone, map, room specific left hand side options like "Approach") when talking to a girl and another appear (change clothes etc) could be confusing for a first time player if the convention isn't introduced in the tutorial, and currently the tutorial is as interactive as filling in a form for one character who is written to be a small part and an unappealing asshole (so a contrasting impression to the girls, no reason to click on him as the sole character in the scene addressed).

I think maybe there's a culture clash here where so many players of untranslated games or 90s point and click moonlogic adventures don't see the problem, but you maybe have a point. A minor change to the very start might be enough to help people trying a genre like this for the first time?

 

[alex13_zen]

... HOW? Dude you don't need THAT much hand holding. Nightcrawler already explains everything in detail. Do you want deadpool to pop in like Navi and railroad you through the intro with constant pop ups?

I obviously don't remember that particular functionality being explained so if it's there, I missed it. It can clearly happen but I didn't see it in the database instructionals either.

A very small highlight could hint at the click possibility. I think many people are not used to interactive VNs since there are fewer of them. I'm used to advancing the dialogue by using the keys actually.

 

[scripterplease]

I... don't think there's anything I could compare art wise.

I could list games that I used as examples to inspire the dev team in other ways.

Rogue Like Evolution
Summertime Saga
Love and Sex: Second Base
Academy 34
Persona 5 (Not a porn game but you'll see its influence as time goes on)

Thanks, and yeah, it was a long shot. I haven't seen such high quality 2d art here before. Other than maybe Our Red String. Amazing work.

 

[apyrvalg]

Dude you don't need THAT much hand holding. Nightcrawler already explains everything in detail. Do you want deadpool to pop in like Navi and railroad you through the intro with constant pop ups?

No offense but Nightcrawler doesn't explain that one, I checked by playing first couple of game days right now. I found that girls are clickable on my first playthrough experimentally, by fooling around with UI. It's not that obvious.

Persona 5

Not inspired by awful japanese cellshading, I hope?

 

[cm1515skn]

I think it's an event that only fires on a weekday, if you slept alone in your own bed the night before, and you didn't piss Jean off by flirting or dating the other girls without already having an agreement on it (so no angry/sad/etc modifier emoji in the relationship tab).

aand in doesnt work -__- mb this kinde of softlock

 

[freddygonzo]

I obviously don't remember that particular functionality being explained so if it's there, I missed it. It can clearly happen but I didn't see it in the database instructionals either.

Take it easy. You're not alone missing out features. I've also missed the hookup context function during my first session until spring or so and thought you always need date for having fun. At beginning, it was locked out, so I hadn't really pay attention to this unlock for a long time.
Yeah, every game is a little bit different with its controls and sometimes too much is granted to be understood from start right away.
Kurt also explains a bit too much during the first season before you start to feel comfy, for example the level/skill system before you can actually choose a skill in season 2 winter.
What is also not clear but is hinted by Kurt: you get a free shower usage during morning OR night per day, costing no stamina point (yellow bar upper-right). The more stamina you increase, the more action-time you have during each time of the day. You also get more XP by stamina when attending class what is also not so obvious.

 

[whity112]

Maybe. There are other characters that fit the mommy trope.
Rouge dlc Mommy

 

[FacelessVixen]

Persona 5

Null = Ren Amamiya
Zero = Yuu Narukami

Rouge dlc Mommy

This Rogue is perfect as is by being submissive and breedable.

 

[salscou]

Null = Ren Amamiya
Zero = Yuu Narukami

Oddly appropiate, Null comes across as a shonen protagonist, while Zero comes across as having that big dick energy.

 

[John Smy]

Just found this game, it's great. Can't wait for Storm, although it looks like that's Tentatively February next year? Regarding the girls becoming friends, I barely went to the pool. There was a point where Laura asked a question and I sent her to Rogue and after that I feel like they started hanging out sometimes and becoming friends. i think there was the same for Laura and Jean, but I can't remember. Am i correct that those events started improving their friendships? Thank you!

 

[Crichton1]

Just found this game, it's great. Can't wait for Storm, although it looks like that's Tentatively February next year? Regarding the girls becoming friends, I barely went to the pool. There was a point where Laura asked a question and I sent her to Rogue and after that I feel like they started hanging out sometimes and becoming friends. i think there was the same for Laura and Jean, but I can't remember. Am i correct that those events started improving their friendships? Thank you!

I don't know about Jean but I know that it did improve stuff for Rouge+Laura
Their friendship is partly a story thing. It can get improved further by bringing them to the pool together.

All the girls' relationships have different max/min depending on their story. Some girls will never be best friends. The only reason to max out their friendship intentionally (It does increase a bit naturally whenever they spend time together regardless of Null) is for the poly route. A second or third girlfriend requires all people involved to be very friendly and have 600 trust.

If your first girlfriend doesn't approve, do not flirt/date/sleep with any other girls. It will start an event that makes the girls less friendly and avoid you for a few days. get those stats up, talk to the girls, get permission.

 

[John Smy]

I'm going to simp a little bit. I have been impressed, just with the writing and relationship aspect of it. Really like that the girls have little scenes with each other. Feels like Laura's almost the bridge between Rogue and Jean. I played more to see what was going to happen next. Didn't do anything with the girls until I had all their Trusts up to 500, I need all the Love!!! Defintely worth the Patreon subscription. Also feels like we're going to see Mystique based off Rogue's story(enjoying as well). Blue Mom's need Love too. Just saying. Maybe DLC Blue Mom's if nothing else...hint hint, wink wink.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I think maybe there's a culture clash here where so many players of untranslated games or 90s point and click moonlogic adventures don't see the problem, but you maybe have a point. A minor change to the very start might be enough to help people trying a genre like this for the first time?

A very small highlight could hint at the click possibility. I think many people are not used to interactive VNs since there are fewer of them. I'm used to advancing the dialogue by using the keys actually.

No offense but Nightcrawler doesn't explain that one, I checked by playing first couple of game days right now. I found that girls are clickable on my first playthrough experimentally, by fooling around with UI. It's not that obvious.

I mean... maybe B W R has a point with the culture clash? Just clicking on girls seems like a no brainer eventuality. I'll ask the devs to see if giving them an outline when your mouse goes over them wouldn't take too much time.

Not inspired by awful japanese cellshading, I hope?

Oh god no.

 

[phdd]

how do you have sex? the only thing i can do is anal sex

 

[FacelessVixen]

how do you have sex? the only thing i can do is anal sex

Okay. Seriously. You people who are turning the girls into anal queens are making me feel a type of way.

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[phdd]

Okay. Seriously. You people who are turning the girls into anal queens are making me feel a type of way.

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ooohh i see . thanks lol

 

[Humalien]

Maybe. There are other characters that fit the mommy trope.


... HOW? Dude you don't need THAT much hand holding. Nightcrawler already explains everything in detail. Do you want deadpool to pop in like Navi and railroad you through the intro with constant pop ups?

No offense but you're the guy that has made games have to give instructions like "To jump, press the jump button."


I... don't think there's anything I could compare art wise.

I could list games that I used as examples to inspire the dev team in other ways.

Rogue Like Evolution
Summertime Saga
Love and Sex: Second Base
Academy 34
Persona 5 (Not a porn game but you'll see its influence as time goes on)

Persona 5?
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As for the clickable characters, exactly... Kurt mentioned that. Besides, it's not the only game like this. For a while now, I always click on characters (the first time I saw something like this was in My Talking Angela) because sometimes they amusingly jump around in some games.

 

[;-;-;]

Can someone tell how can i load saves from another device on the android i tried using z archiver( it show permission not granted)if anyone knows how to do it please help

 

[graverobber]

I mean... maybe B W R has a point with the culture clash? Just clicking on girls seems like a no brainer eventuality. I'll ask the devs to see if giving them an outline when your mouse goes over them wouldn't take too much time.

if this is added please make sure that it is toggleable in the settings

 

[DanVen]

Sooooo, with all the speculation on the possible "mommy" character, I can't help but notice no one has mentioned Wanda as a possibility.

She has a big thing with her kids (or lack thereof) and she's been a central character in one of the biggest X-Men events ever (House of M and "No More Mutants").

Or maybe I just want a possessive reality-bending mommy that can scramble my head with a snap.

And as far as I care she's still a mutant, fuck Disney.