Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

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ShinyBoots1993 said:
Well if you delay going to the next season till its logical conclusion it won't be montage-level.
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True, true. But I am really not that patient. Or obsessive compulsive.

It also wasn't a criticism, merely a description of the game compressing events to a manageable level.
 
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ShadySkull said:
nitpick tho, why would they wear swimsuits under a towel when taking a shower, kinda out of the place
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They only do that for the public showers, like at the beach. Since the public showers in the danger room area are unisex, Storm already indicated at the beginning that there would be no nude showering in that area allowed. Showering in your private restroom area in your own room is normal though "hint."
 
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jvbatman said:
Any clue on how to trigger Relationship 2? I have no idea how I trigged Rogues or Jeans. I know Jeans showed up right away but Rogues 2 didn't show up until after some time. I kept waiting for the same thing to happen with Laura but it never did. It seems tied to the girl randomly asking you on a date.
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Found it. The criteria for "Enjoy" event are:

  • Three or more days have passed since becoming Laura's boyfriend.
  • It happens in Null's room when he wakes up.
  • There is a "not present" tag that, at the very least, means Laura is not in the room with you, but it may also mean that nobody is in the room with you.

Possible reasons the event, and thus the quest, are not triggering.

  • You are not Laura's boyfriend. It is possible to postpone that event when it triggers, and perhaps that is where the issue occurred. Did you get the event where Laura drags Null to his room and says she wants him to be her boyfriend? If not, you need to trigger than event. If postponed, i.e. you told Laura you didn't have time when she either texted you or asked to talk, I am unsure how to accomplish this.
  • Null isn't sleeping in his room or isn't sleeping in his room alone. Are you constantly sleeping over with one of the girls or inviting girls to sleep in his bed? If this is the case, I would recommend sleeping alone in your room. Perhaps over a few nights to try to get the event to trigger.
  • You did get the "Enjoy" event, but the relationship quest didn't activate. Did you get the scene where Kurt texts Null and says Laura is pacing outside your door? The one where Laura says she watches Null sleep through his window? If that event occurred, and the relationship event didn't, I don't know what could have caused it.
  • Perhaps Relationship II did trigger, but it basically autocompleted because you already had the stats high enough to complete it. Look at completed quests to see exactly how far you've progressed. Since these events are complete when a certain love and trust threshold is reached, it is entirely plausible that, depending on when the quest activates, you may have already passed those thresholds. If that is the case, your issue may lie elsewhere.
  • Did you alter your stats, use a trainer, a mod, or anything? If so, you may have broken your save.
I would recommend double checking completed quest to make sure where in the quest chain you are. I would talk to Laura and try to officially become her boyfriend if you postponed that event. I would sleep alone in your bed a few nights to see if that triggers the event. Beyond that, the only thing I could think of is to edit the save to reset some flags and see if you could get things moving again that way. My apologies that I could not be of more help and that it took so long to get back to you.
Jonte555 said:
Does this game have enough content to be played now or should I wait
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I can't answer for you, but for me, the answer is yes. I am not part of the dev team; therefore some of the information I'm about to provide may be incorrect, but perhaps it will help answer your question. The game is currently an early access, early beta. Only one of six chapters are complete. Most but not all systems are in place. The existing systems may be polished and iterated upon by the devs in the future. The game is mostly the introductory and tutorial portion. It took me about three days to get through the current content, but with life/job things, it's hard to put that into hours. YMMV. The content is, in my opinion, good, but that does make it easy to fit into the "I want more now" trap.
 
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Augustus Commodus said:
Found it. The criteria for "Enjoy" event are:

  • Three or more days have passed since becoming Laura's boyfriend.
  • It happens in Null's room when he wakes up.
  • There is a "not present" tag that, at the very least, means Laura is not in the room with you, but it may also mean that nobody is in the room with you.

Possible reasons the event, and thus the quest, are not triggering.

  • You are not Laura's boyfriend. It is possible to postpone that event when it triggers, and perhaps that is where the issue occurred. Did you get the event where Laura drags Null to his room and says she wants him to be her boyfriend? If not, you need to trigger than event. If postponed, i.e. you told Laura you didn't have time when she either texted you or asked to talk, I am unsure how to accomplish this.
  • Null isn't sleeping in his room or isn't sleeping in his room alone. Are you constantly sleeping over with one of the girls or inviting girls to sleep in his bed? If this is the case, I would recommend sleeping alone in your room. Perhaps over a few nights to try to get the event to trigger.
  • You did get the "Enjoy" event, but the relationship quest didn't activate. Did you get the scene where Kurt texts Null and says Laura is pacing outside your door? The one where Laura says she watches Null sleep through his window? If that event occurred, and the relationship event didn't, I don't know what could have caused it.
  • Perhaps Relationship II did trigger, but it basically autocompleted because you already had the stats high enough to complete it. Look at completed quests to see exactly how far you've progressed. Since these events are complete when a certain love and trust threshold is reached, it is entirely plausible that, depending on when the quest activates, you may have already passed those thresholds. If that is the case, your issue may lie elsewhere.
  • Did you alter your stats, use a trainer, a mod, or anything? If so, you may have broken your save.
I would recommend double checking completed quest to make sure where in the quest chain you are. I would talk to Laura and try to officially become her boyfriend if you postponed that event. I would sleep alone in your bed a few nights to see if that triggers the event. Beyond that, the only thing I could think of is to edit the save to reset some flags and see if you could get things moving again that way. My apologies that I could not be of more help and that it took so long to get back to you.
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Yeah I checked the completed quests. That's how I knew I never got Relationship 2 with her. Maybe I have been doing too much other stuff. I remember a time when Laura popped into my room but it was right at the evening transition where I had a date with someone else that it pulled me into automatically. I've been trying to not do any dates in hopes it triggers again. It's probably something I just need to keep skipping through days for to trigger I guess. I may just wait until the next big game update.
 
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Does anyone have a full save? My save is bugged and can't date Jean.
I do not want to restart the grind back to Year 1 Summer
 
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wowiewonk said:
Does anyone have a full save? My save is bugged and can't date Jean.
I do not want to restart the grind back to Year 1 Summer
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They're releasing a new update later/tomorrow. Also it might be more helpful to give a bit more detail since maybe your game might not be bugged and the RNG hasn't just triggered?
 
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TeeEight said:
They're releasing a new update later/tomorrow. Also it might be more helpful to give a bit more detail since maybe your game might not be bugged and the RNG hasn't just triggered?
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If the RNG hasn't triggered, I must be the unluckiest person. I've done all the relationship stuff for Rogue and Laura, it's just Jean who I don't have the option to date nor has Jean come up to ask for a date when I finished Fall/Winter/Spring.
 
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wowiewonk said:
If the RNG hasn't triggered, I must be the unluckiest person. I've done all the relationship stuff for Rogue and Laura, it's just Jean who I don't have the option to date nor has Jean come up to ask for a date when I finished Fall/Winter/Spring.
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Did she ask you about her taking you out on a date and have you texted her to initiate the date? If not, have you rested in your own bed for a couple of nights instead of in someone else's room?
 
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jvbatman said:
Yeah I checked the completed quests. That's how I knew I never got Relationship 2 with her. Maybe I have been doing too much other stuff. I remember a time when Laura popped into my room but it was right at the evening transition where I had a date with someone else that it pulled me into automatically. I've been trying to not do any dates in hopes it triggers again. It's probably something I just need to keep skipping through days for to trigger I guess. I may just wait until the next big game update.
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It is plausible that is your issue: The boyfriend event is active but not complete. The game is essentially waiting for you to make a decision you can't make because the date triggering means you couldn't reach the necessary UI. I can't know for certain without looking at your save and seeing the state of various flags, though. If that is the case, it is a bug the developers might want to look into. Having "random" and "forced" events triggering simultaneously might cause issues in other instances as well.
wowiewonk said:
If the RNG hasn't triggered, I must be the unluckiest person. I've done all the relationship stuff for Rogue and Laura, it's just Jean who I don't have the option to date nor has Jean come up to ask for a date when I finished Fall/Winter/Spring.
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Information would still be useful since it gives anyone willing to help an idea where to look. Just saying you can't date her is diagnostically very unhelpful. What were the latest events with the character you remember? What quests might be active or completed? Any failed quests? Although that might be hard to tell because I do not believe that the Failed Quest icon has yet been added to the game. Did you complete her optional side quest during Autumn? I think I remember reading that not completing Autumn quests before moving to Winter might prevent later quests from triggering.
 
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A few small questions before moving on to version 0.4. I have a few quests that I haven't completed yet:
Go jogging together- Rogue
Support her during class demonstration- Jean
Stumble upon her studying- Laura
Can someone please show me how to get it done?
 
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