Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]
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I'm very eager to see the phoenix arc hit. You've depicted Jean in a very interesting way, basically being on the verge of a nervous breakdown for a whole ass year (assuming she hasnt already hit her nervous breakdown). Probably the story beat I'm most aware of and interested in seeing, as someone only faintly familiar with xmen lore.
I'll be honest. Rogue's submissiveness is the only quirk I dislike/see as a red flag. Even falling under the lie of "these are sexy time benefits", it's always made me uncomfortable. But my position on things like these isn't to deny them, but explore them and deal with them in a healthy way.
So here's to hoping that that will be possible in the game eventually.
Addendum: When I say "red flag" I don't mean a "don't be with this girl, she's bad news" red flag. I mean "This is not a healthy thing for the person." red flag.
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The quirk system will never be a one and done thing. You've seen the code, it's weighted.
We most definitely have plans for exploring how embracing a quirk may affect their life. Both for the positive and the negative.
The quirk revamp actually inspired us to want to explore even further. It's not just you customizing your player experience. What and how you enable will come up again and isn't just a switch to flip the tone future scenes are treated with.
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The claim that a person being submissive is self harming is... just ridiculous.
It is perfectly valid lifestyle.
Also, a red flag does not mean:
a. not my fetish
b. self harming behavior
a red flag is a trait that warns you that this person has major problems that makes them bad for YOU and that YOU should not even try to date them.
ex: Signs they are a cheater, signs they are a compulsive liar, signs that they are a criminal who is going to go to prison. signs that they self harm. etc
that kind of stuff.
Now you might have noticed that I put self harming behavior in it.
yes, self harming behavior IS a red flag.
This is one of those "all squares are rectangles. but not all rectangles are squares".
Self harming is a red flag, but not all red flags are self harm related. (ex: cheating)
Of course that requires it to be actual self harm.
The only thing rogue submitting to her man actually harms is the feminist idealogy.
Rogue is not harmed by it, you are not harmed by it.
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Just to be clear, I, in no way, was intending or implying or even thinking that red flags mean self harm (My god, is English an imprecise language). I mean red flag as a literal warning sign that things aren't healthy going forward and/or needs to be addressed. Like a check engine light.
Like Rogue's had a lot happen to her. Her desire to not have to think about it is understandable. It would be so easy to let someone else take care of everything. To have someone tell you that everything's okay. That everything's fine and you're safe. But the moment you do that, you stunt your own growth as a person. And that is, mentally and emotionally, harmful to a person.
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That quote in no way implies that it won't go that far.
The writers have many compelling narratives to show you.
To borrow a joke form UnoriginalUserName:
Null: "Hey Rogue. I know that Jean just turned evil despite me trying to nullify her powers by slapping her ass, which you gave me permission to do so, by the way. But could you wear these puppy ears that I got at the mall and bark for me? That would really lift my spirits and give me telekinesis, babe."
Rogue (embarrassed and on the verge of an orgasm): "...Yes, Daddy. Woof woof!"
Null: "And that's why I love you, babe. Submissive and breedable."
Null, with his arm in a cast, gives a thumbs up.
Rogue drops to her knees, wets the floor, and makes an UwU face.
Fade to black circle transition focusing on Null's thumbs up, while Ross Whitby's legally distinct version of Seinfeld's end credits riff plays.
My friends telling me to download waifu gatcha games isn't them corrupting me, it's them enabling my gambling addiction lol
*judges you*
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I agree to a certain extent. it really does feel as though Rogue wants to be better but the quirk itself could cause more harm than good by telling her to let Null make every decision no matter how small. if it's terms of them doing it inside the bedroom, that's fine but to be brought into every aspect of the relationship, it will damage her mentality more compared to before embracing it
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i guess the furthest you can go is grinding without leaving fall also she agreed to be poli but she said she needs to be more friends with laura to let me date her and some cool features that ron and the team could add is stargazing with girls and maybe messing around in the roof of the mansion.
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But, she isn't coming to you to micromanage her life.
If you ask her to do something AFTER your relationship became advanced enough, she goes "yes daddy" and does it.
But otherwise she lives her life normally, doing her own things without bothering you to micro her.
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And that's why I'm skeptical of/concerned about how far the quirk system may extend to; though not necessarily in terms of writing quality, but more so in terms of potential feature creep.
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Enabling Rogue will make her a perpatual victim.
Enabling Jean will make YOU a pussywhiped mommy's boy.
Enabling Laura will make SOMEONE ELSE a victim (SNICKT!).
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The writers have many compelling narratives to show you.
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Honestly, if I had a penny for every time someone wrote endless paragraphs about why they should be allowed to be a horrible jerk without consequences in the game or outright abuse the characters (which actually is a red flag in my book), despite us repeatedly stating this isn't that kind of game, I'd be able to fund the entire production of the game myself.
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After finding out Null cheated on her and coming back after 3 days to talk him...she finds him balls deep in her rival.
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I guess you didn't read Shiny's just under yours at the top of the previous page.
Even without encouraging her quirk she gets to the point of asking you if it's okay for her to leave the room before going to let Laura know you've come out of your coma after the sentinel incident at the mall.
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And? that is not micromanaging her entire life, it is being polite, once, to a guy who just came out of a coma.
She picks every day whether to go to class or go gym, she picks an outfit every day, she picks whether to go to BBQ on the weekend, etc etc etc.
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Generally speaking, Rogue will probably only ask you to control things in her life in Summer, essentially at the end of Chapter 1...of 6 proposed chapters.
This is just the beginning.
But also remember, Null is the first person that Rogue can safely touch in probably years. She is terrified of losing that and probably thinks that giving everything of herself to Null will mean that he won't leave. That isn't a healthy attitude to have. And Null does bring that up if they turn down the offer to encourage the quirk.
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