Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[Buttholder]

Man, we're doing an absolutely dogshit job if we're really just trying to milk this for all it's worth lmao. Definitely trying to milk it by spending way more money than "necessary" on updating old art when we could just say "eh good enough" and move on. These are not development issues, but self-imposed standards that we refuse to lower. This game is a passion project and any money it makes is injected right back into the art with no exceptions. Everything up to this point has been to make sure chapter 1 is as rock solid as possible so we can more easily and quickly add new content moving forward.

No, see, the greatest con is the one where you put in hundreds of hours worth of effort into a project, all the money goes back into said project and you sit there with a cool end result and empty pockets, on account of all the money going back into the game.

It's so cunning a ploy, even Columbo couldn't figure it out! And he's basically God, so...

 

[Claireity]

Don't let some impatience get you folks down. It comes with being on the internet.

The story is fun for this one, and this is coming from someone who usually finds visual novels incredibly dull. Keep at it, and I'll keep scorning Jean for her wannabe incest.

 

[SeveralGeese]

Small feedback, since I want to balance some of the bonkers takes and accusations that hit this page overnight:

it took me absolutely forever to figure out how to use the quick travel system, like, specifically knowing when it was working. Even something as simple as a popup saying "quick travel location saved" or something would be nice.

 

[swiver]

I've been putting it off since 5b, mainly because of how addictive it is, but also a bit like saving dessert for later. Wow,was this worth the wait!

Love the subtle moving of the hair, the changing looks during the conversations, the additional actions in h-scenes, and the shower stuff.

Sadly the last one is causing an error. I tried showering with Jean twice in her room and once in locker room, and after each time I get errors (Ignore leads to more). Is there a problem with old saves (from 5a or b)?

There some non-breaking stuff like at one point during h-scene i don't where I clicked and the picture was carried over to the room background without action/pose interface, and after responding to Jean's message by going over and h-scene, I go to pool and open phone and the message asking me to come over is there again...

Is there also anything that can change lag/response time to clicking in h-scenes and the roll-back smoothness? Rolling back is pretty unresponsive at first then it's like that old skip ten pages a time setting in windows. Also afterwards the play is lost, in other words, rolling forwards doesn't work.

Hope this isn't unhelpful. Sorry I didn't think to try to provide screen-shots/reports.

Otherwise, LOVE IT! Thanks for all the hard work!!

 

[sillyrobot]

Probably old news, but I just got "Jean_mirror_gift_accept not found. Please report bug." So here I am. Reporting it.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Probably old news, but I just got "Jean_mirror_gift_accept not found. Please report bug." So here I am. Reporting it.

Passing it on.

 

[ronchonbon]

I've been putting it off since 5b, mainly because of how addictive it is, but also a bit like saving dessert for later. Wow,was this worth the wait!

Love the subtle moving of the hair, the changing looks during the conversations, the additional actions in h-scenes, and the shower stuff.

Sadly the last one is causing an error. I tried showering with Jean twice in her room and once in locker room, and after each time I get errors (Ignore leads to more). Is there a problem with old saves (from 5a or b)?

There some non-breaking stuff like at one point during h-scene i don't where I clicked and the picture was carried over to the room background without action/pose interface, and after responding to Jean's message by going over and h-scene, I go to pool and open phone and the message asking me to come over is there again...

Is there also anything that can change lag/response time to clicking in h-scenes and the roll-back smoothness? Rolling back is pretty unresponsive at first then it's like that old skip ten pages a time setting in windows. Also afterwards the play is lost, in other words, rolling forwards doesn't work.

Hope this isn't unhelpful. Sorry I didn't think to try to provide screen-shots/reports.

Otherwise, LOVE IT! Thanks for all the hard work!!

if it happens again, can you include the error report? otherwise I'm just feeling around in the dark

 

[ronchonbon]

Probably old news, but I just got "Jean_mirror_gift_accept not found. Please report bug." So here I am. Reporting it.

Hmm, do you have a save that you could DM me so I can try and recreate?

 

[Deleted member 7870205]

I know that the devteam intends to lock down the game before focusing on furthering the story, but I'm betting that they probably will later down the line want a new mechanic that they'll have to retrofit eventually (bonus points for another remaster update later down the line). Nothing is ever truly locked down in amateur-ish development. I personally would advocate against having high expectations for fast content after 1.0 lest you be disappointed.

This isn't really intended to slight the devs, I'm just guessing, though it does sound pessimistic admittedly. Because we're talking 6 chapters here. Super long ass game. There is no way the vision or standards (or the people making the game) will remain the same 'till then.

However I don't think the devs are milking the game by any stretch, I just don't think their idea of a critical design review will go the way they say it will. They work on a pretty damn low patreon income with a whole bunch of people coming together to make a single thing. It's seemingly well organized which is rare in porndev.

Four Leaf Studios was created by a group of randos from 4chan, and they went on to create a cult classic called Katawa Shoujo. Despite significant staff turnover and a development hell caused by this, they ultimately delivered a great product. I believe the TNH development team can also deliver a quality product in a shorter time, especially with the better opportunities available now compared to early 2010s.

 

[Ananas055]

After all this time spent on the site, seening the enthusiasm and sincere desire of this team is enough to make a grown man cry. In another universe where I was a billionaire, I would definitely make you guys millionaires Lol

 

[Ssato243]

They still arent in, although Storm, Dazzler are coming next, and the next villain will be Emma.

cant wait wish to fuck emma also

 

[sillyrobot]

Hmm, do you have a save that you could DM me so I can try and recreate?

Yep. General notes: It happened at the start of Spring. I bought the mirror on sale just before the attack on the mall.

 

[SeveralGeese]

Yep. General notes: It happened at the start of Spring. I bought the mirror on sale just before the attack on the mall.

I had the same bug happen (though I dont have a close enough save to share, myself. I got the error when trying to give the mirror to Jean, but had no problem giving the same mirror to Laura.
Of course, now I dont have an option to buy another mirror for Jean, assuming she is also supposed to get one.

 

[FacelessVixen]

'Early development'. Right... Because six updates in total with only claim to fame is fixes, alterations, and minor additions, all of which could sensibly be added with chapter updates and progession of the story is worth the pussy footing around with development. If you guys were ontop of things and weren't, imho, trying to milk this for its foreseeable worth, you could have put up the next chapter by update 5 or even this one. Not the case it seems.

And you can happily disagree with me or make excuses on why development issues have hindered things or whatever bullshit all you want. But it won't stop me from saying this: You guys have a rather promising game here. Artwork, animation, and story (even if its us being the constant punching bag and every chapter we end up in the fucking hospital) is really good compared to Rogue:Lite. Yet... some here, like myself, are likely expecting a bit more with each update. We hope to add more gals to the harem like Kitty and Boom Boom and Storm for starters. But it's been the same 3 gals for the last 5 updates with simple add ons.

Somethings gotta give.

Just come back in six months.

 

[sillyrobot]

Same basic bug report only with occult posters being given to Jean.

 

[Karmadive]

I have not played the newest version but from the last time I played you did not give any items to Jean for her bedroom at all.

The mirror was for Laura or Rogue, and the occult posters were for Rogue



Correction: I think you can give her plants, candles etc.

There are items that only show up in the shop after asking that Girl why they don't have decorations and those are tailored to that specific Girl. I think Jean says her stuff is in storage or something and haven't gotten around to them yet, or something can't remember.

 

[armond]

Just come back in six months.

For me it's inches

 

[sillyrobot]

I have not played the newest version but from the last time I played you did not give any items to Jean for her bedroom at all.

The mirror was for Laura or Rogue, and the occult posters were for Rogue



Correction: I think you can give her plants, candles etc.

There are items that only show up in the shop after asking that Girl why they don't have decorations and those are tailored to that specific Girl. I think Jean says her stuff is in storage or something and haven't gotten around to them yet, or something can't remember.

The mirror first goes to Anna.

Then, later you can ask Jean why her bedroom is so bare and she'll suggest you can get her stuff. The mirror becomes available for sale again and the symbols on the right side of the item that indicate who would like it is changed to both Jean and Anna.

Similarly, almost all the posters indicate use for Laura. The occult poster was different and indicated Jean which I thought was a bit of an odd choice for Marvel Girl / Phoenix, but whatever.

 

[Karmadive]

The mirror first goes to Anna.

Then, later you can ask Jean why her bedroom is so bare and she'll suggest you can get her stuff. The mirror becomes available for sale again and the symbols on the right side of the item that indicate who would like it is changed to both Jean and Anna.

Similarly, almost all the posters indicate use for Laura. The occult poster was different and indicated Jean which I thought was a bit of an odd choice for Marvel Girl / Phoenix, but whatever.

ah ok weird.

Last time I played I unlocked the room decorations and bought everything for Rogue at once. then had the talk with Jean and nothing was unlocked at the store. Finally later had the talk with Laura and unlocked all the items for her and gave them to her. Nothing ever showed up for me For Jean.

Edit: this was for Version 0.6a

 

[Sublop]

How do you unlock further lewd options with Laura? Is it Love/Trust based? The only thing that's unlocked so far (currently in Winter) is pinching nipples but it's making me not want to mess around with her because her bar progresses so slowly I have to click the same thing HUNDREDS of times for a single orgasm.