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douglasdamm

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Also, it's a little lame that they might avoid one of the most iconic versions of one of the most iconic X-Men characters just because some sensitive people might get butthurt.
True. This game isnt on earth-616 so the devs can take a few liberties from multiverse hand-waving in order to circumvent those difficulties... just have her being half British/Japanese in earth-69 to avoid the whole plot if they feel it would weird out some people.
 
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As for psylock, the writers have expressed doubts as to whether they'd be able to depict her well, in a way that doesn't make one group or another angry.

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I'd just like to point out that the original storyline where Psylocke becomes Asian didn't involve any body-stealing. That's a retcon which came a few years after from a writer who hadn't properly read the comic where it happened. Originally, Betsy (and the rest of the X-Men) go through the Siege Perilous and her own actual body is physically changed to look Asian. It's still a weird racial scenario, but nowhere near as bad and messy as the retcon that she ended up stealing someone else's body.

If TNH were to introduce Psylocke, I feel the best possible decision is to completely do away with anything connected to that hot mess of a plot point and simply have Psylocke be ethnically Asian from the get-go. You get to keep both the look and the character with none of the controversy. Bish bash bosh.
 
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Evil13

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True. This game isnt on earth-616 so the devs can take a few liberties from multiverse hand-waving in order to circumvent those difficulties... just have her being half British/Japanese in earth-69 to avoid the whole plot if they feel it would weird out some people.
There's been some discussion on the discord about what to do but nothing is confirmed or set in stone yet. While they could use the multiverse as a way to hand wave Betsy and Kwannon, they probably won't as it doesn't really address a difficult issue for Psylocke.

One idea I floated was to have British Betsy as the girl in the game and then if and/or when there is a sequel have the body swap happen off screen. I suggested that if Null were to leave the mansion at the end of the game due to the story, it would allow the writers to reset the relationship between Betsy and Null, as she went through something traumatic and he wasn't there for her. And so, we have a storyline to rebuild that relationship.
 

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I... feel like there might be some kind of misunderstanding about... well, a lot of things. The point of the game isn't necessarily to bang every character and get a high score on the orgyboard. It's about dating your favorite X-men characters- and who those favorites are will vary for each player.

...the point of the game is to fuck everyone. And if it's not, it should be.
 

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There's been some discussion on the discord about what to do but nothing is confirmed or set in stone yet. While they could use the multiverse as a way to hand wave Betsy and Kwannon, they probably won't as it doesn't really address a difficult issue for Psylocke.

One idea I floated was to have British Betsy as the girl in the game and then if and/or when there is a sequel have the body swap happen off screen. I suggested that if Null were to leave the mansion at the end of the game due to the story, it would allow the writers to reset the relationship between Betsy and Null, as she went through something traumatic and he wasn't there for her. And so, we have a storyline to rebuild that relationship.
What if they just didn't acknowledge it? I know it sounds like a cop-out but, when I first saw Psylocke/read a comic with her in it, I had no idea she was Asian even though I'm Asian myself. It's like "She uses martial arts!", yeah, like a dozen and one other marvel characters including Electra. "She LOOKS Asian." Yeah, not to an actual Asian. Her hair is purple. Her eye shape don't look different from, like Gambit or wolverine in some shots. To me, it looks like someone draw any other thin, athletic woman character (of which there are many in Marvel comics) and put long purple hair on her.
If nothing about her personality is Asian and she doesn't actually look Asian, then why not just say she's not Asian?
 

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What if they just didn't acknowledge it? I know it sounds like a cop-out but, when I first saw Psylocke/read a comic with her in it, I had no idea she was Asian even though I'm Asian myself. It's like "She uses martial arts!", yeah, like a dozen and one other marvel characters including Electra. "She LOOKS Asian." Yeah, not to an actual Asian. Her hair is purple. Her eye shape don't look different from, like Gambit or wolverine in some shots. To me, it looks like someone draw any other thin, athletic woman character (of which there are many in Marvel comics) and put long purple hair on her.
If nothing about her personality is Asian and she doesn't actually look Asian, then why not just say she's not Asian?
Cuz we need some slanted eyes for variety and we might not get jubilee.
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I've never heard anyone say pre-ninja Betsy was a character they liked, and fans who got into the franchise through cartoons and movies don't even know it's a thing that exists. And I've certainly never heard anyone say they yearn for an accurate retelling of the fuckin' Siege Perilous. That whole "they live in Australia now" period of Claremont's run was the point where it became painfully obvious he'd been writing the book for too long and was hitting burnout.

Just have Kwannon not exist and make Betsy a British woman who is ethnically Asian and was born that way, that's what people want, there's literally no good reason to either avoid the only form of Psylocke that's mainstream or make the story as complicated and dumb as it was in the comics.
 
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Karmadive

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I... feel like there might be some kind of misunderstanding about... well, a lot of things. The point of the game isn't necessarily to bang every character and get a high score on the orgyboard. It's about dating your favorite X-men characters- and who those favorites are will vary for each player.
While I understand the intention by the developers on how they would like to present the relationships in the game, they will clash with how the vast majority of AVN games have progressed as well as how "many" players wish to play the game. Players come in expecting certain things with the way the game is presented and then feel like a rug pulled from under them if it's not the case. What you wish for your game can sometimes fall apart once put into the hands of players.

It's like the entire jealously/friendships system in the game. it just feels like another tedious grind mechanic on top of the already grindy mechanic of love/trust. While I understand it is there to make it so you don't romance as many other girls in the game as you can it ends up just being an annoyance to some players who want to play the game a certain way. (it's probably the first thing I will mod out of the game for myself)

Also the amount of grind already present in the game doesn't really make players excited about another playthrough to romance different girls, especially if it will take many playthroughs to do. And it will get worse with new content being added.

They wish to fight the harem tag and style of gameplay but I feel like it will just confuse and push some people away from the game instead.

Let the players who wish to romance all the girls do so and let the people who want to romance just a few do that as well.

edit: it's late here so i might not be making sense
 
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Karmadive

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I mean, it's not their fault that they're making a dating sim and yall keep insisting it should be a meet'n'fuck. It's like going to a taco bell and being mad that the pizza is crap.
It's all about how the game is presented to you. Currently the game has 3 love interests, they can all be romanced at the same time, if that changes later on with more girls being added then the initial presentation on what the game is about is wrong. If that is not what the game is about then the 3 girls at the beginning of the game should not be romanceable at the same time as that is what the player will base the rest of the game off of.
 

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I don't think I've heard Magik be mentioned one way or the other.
There has not been EXPLICIT mention of Magik being added as of yet, no.
However, there's a strong chance she might show up in chapter 3 or 4 due to when she debuts as an actual X-men character in the comics (Uncanny X-men #160). This is ENTIRELY speculative on my part based on what the devs have said about their general story progression choices though (along with other hints), and could EASILY not turn out to be the case.
Just me making pot-shot semi-informed guesses.
 
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salscou

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It's all about how the game is presented to you. Currently the game has 3 love interests, they can all be romanced at the same time, if that changes later on with more girls being added then the initial presentation on what the game is about is wrong. If that is not what the game is about then the 3 girls at the beginning of the game should not be romanceable at the same time as that is what the player will base the rest of the game off of.
Excuse me what?
Thats retarded.
 
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It's all about how the game is presented to you. Currently the game has 3 love interests, they can all be romanced at the same time, if that changes later on with more girls being added then the initial presentation on what the game is about is wrong. If that is not what the game is about then the 3 girls at the beginning of the game should not be romanceable at the same time as that is what the player will base the rest of the game off of.
Oh that's not what I was arguing at all. The polycule aint going nowhere, even if they've said some characters wont get along, and others will take more to convince.
 
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