SeveralGeese

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The Brotherhood?
The Hellions?
Arguably X-force?
Trying to prove me right, I see. Did any of those not end in disaster?

heck, that whole span of the New Mutants could be summarized with "In hindsight, putting everyone into their own cliques and making them fight for our approval was probably a bad idea."

Not that Scott or Emma would ever openly admit to being wrong.
 

salscou

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Trying to prove me right, I see. Did any of those not end in disaster?

heck, that whole span of the New Mutants could be summarized with "In hindsight, putting everyone into their own cliques and making them fight for our approval was probably a bad idea."

Not that Scott or Emma would ever openly admit to being wrong.
Im just saying, we are JUST in the right time for things to end in the usual disaster, its a perfectly good year for mutants to get whiped on the floor again.
 
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What I apparently failed to explain is that not all of the girls will initially want to join a polycule. The two reasons currently being that they either highly dislike one of Null's girlfriends and the idea of joining in a relationship or sharing Null disgusts them and the other being that they're from one of the mentioned conservative communities that haven't fully accepted all the free love going on. You can convince both of them by being an ideal partner.
Ahhh of course, makes sense how you're gonna play it now.
I admittedly forgot about that... Pulling an in universe explanation out of my ass... It's a rich person's mansion that was converted into a school. If anything is fancy, just assume it was there to begin with because luxurious lifestyles lol
This ass-explanation is acceptable to me.
I'll confess, I might not fully know what a sliding timeline is...
The sliding timeline Marvel's way of dealing with the fact they've kept (more or less) the same continuity since 1961 without having to actually deal with the passage of real time.

Obviously, Marvel doesn't progress at the same rate as real life, otherwise almost every character would be 60+ years older by now. It's also pretty hard to follow real-time, or something which at least approximates it, when each issue in a series only comes out once a month.

The big problem nowadays in our glorious 21st century is that a lot of Marvel (particularly origin stories and backstories) was often based in real life events and trends from 'the world outside your window': e.g., mutants were originally the result of atom bomb tests, Professor X was a veteran of the Korean War, Reed Richards and Ben Grimm both fought in WWII, Tony Stark was injured in Vietnam, and so on. This was more or less still workable through the 1970s, but from the 80s onwards it became impossible to reconcile these backstories with the ages of the characters as they were then currently appearing.

So ever since, Marvel's solution to this is to pretend that, starting with Fantastic Four #1, everything in the Marvel universe has happened within a timeframe of around about 13 years prior to the present day. The Fantastic Four's rocket flight is no longer a part of the Space Race, but instead will always have happened a dozen years before now. Whenever they show flashbacks to origin stories or 'the past' visuals are updated accordingly, e.g., modern depictions of Spider-Man's origin will have the kids in his school walking round with mobile phones. The timeline "slides" along with the currently published comics. This lets Marvel keep the essentials of the stories intact and avoids having to deal with aging their characters. That last point is arguably a problem in itself, since it's partly why comics have been so stagnant for so long, but that's a different can of worms.

So, Vietnam has now been replaced by a vaguely timeless Indochina war, Soviet villains simply become Russian, and any outdated pop culture references to someone like Walter Cronkite or Edward G. Robinson are brushed aside. Of course for characters like Magneto and Captain America, whose backstories are indelibly tied to WWII, this becomes a little trickier. Though funnily enough Captain America is perhaps the only character who really benefits from the sliding timeline -- the further away he is from WWII, the more out of time he becomes. Back when they first resurrected him, the war had ended only 20 years previously. It actually works out even better (unless you're Cap).

If you want a better, more concise explanation and some proper examples, take a look at .

TL;DR (because I write too much): remember how The Simpsons started out in the early 1990s with flashback episodes about how Homer and Marge first met in high school in 1974, and now they have flashback episodes about how Homer was actually a teenager in the 90s? This is that.
 

C00merboy

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So i finally played the finale and damn Ororo is finally coming around storm was my crush along emma frost as a kid like mostly of the guys who read comics or watched the x-men shows since i start playing TNH i really got back into comics got myself the entire of the punisher max saga for a penny in a old comic book store in my city i know this is off topic boots please don't send a sentinel to my house but what x-men comics i should read to get a grip on the general history because the most things i know was the shows and the fox movies and all of those sometimes got horrible dubs or linguistic errors in my language even the comics got shafted some times but now i am older and wiser and know how to use google translate and know a little bit of english so i think i can make sense of it myself.
 

salscou

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So i finally played the finale and damn Ororo is finally coming around storm was my crush along emma frost as a kid like mostly of the guys who read comics or watched the x-men shows since i start playing TNH i really got back into comics got myself the entire of the punisher max saga for a penny in a old comic book store in my city i know this is off topic boots please don't send a sentinel to my house but what x-men comics i should read to get a grip on the general history because the most things i know was the shows and the fox movies and all of those sometimes got horrible dubs or linguistic errors in my language even the comics got shafted some times but now i am older and wiser and know how to use google translate and know a little bit of english so i think i can make sense of it myself.
If you check the character profiles, they added recomended comics to read to get whats going on with the characters and such.
 
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since i start playing TNH i really got back into comics got myself the entire of the punisher max saga for a penny in a old comic book store in my city i know this is off topic boots please don't send a sentinel to my house
I'm starting a Brotherhood of Evil Actual Occasional Comicbook Purchasers. Join me! Together we can infest the Off Topic Thread with "Hey, look what I got for (a penny/ €2)" and torture people by showing adverts for THE NISSAN QUBE in comicbooks which you just can't get on sites with pirated comics!
 

N3G3VO

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Hello. Can I change the default's outfit's with my personally clicked clothes, if yes how bcs i just trying to do that and save button can't be clicked I miss smth or what? in rougelike evolution it's easy to change in that game i had problems >:/ looking for the answer and cheers! 1738853213197.png
 

b_w_r

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Wonder if there's a better way to arrange this UI. This seems to be a common problem with people. Myself included.
I'm not a UI designer, but if I had to make suggestions*:

Familiarity could be better.

The edit text field doesn't visually resemble the edit text field first introduced to the player when entering their name for Null at the start of the game (this isn't "wrong", but if there is inconsistency then it's not safe to assume the player would already recognise what an editable text field looks like; and since that field was at the very start there's a high chance they were paying attention and could remember it).

The UI flow through desired steps doesn't closely resemble the UI interactions for eg navigating the map, clicking on a girl, the fooling around interactions or the phone navigation. So it's both a lot of interactive fields at once and doesn't leverage what the player has already learned and practiced to make going through those interactions smoother.

Readability could be better.

The non-interactive fields (where you can't edit text) look at a glance very similar to the interactive fields (where you can put in the name of the outfit) when it'd be helpful if they were distinctive (even if only a little distinctive).

Parts of the screen that aren't relevant for decision making in the costume creation process don't become less prominent when in "edit mode" (eg they don't get slightly dimmer or shaded) so when "edit mode" is activated it doesn't visually reduce the number of elements someone using edit mode for the first time would interacting with to only the relevant ones.

Complexity right now could be reduced

The first time a player uses this screen, they're given ALL the options at once. Complexity is pretty high, maybe even maximal. There isn't (for example) an event in the first season where they get a tutorial with the season field is removed (as seasons hasn't been introduced as a mechanic yet anyway, making it irrelevant; and in turn allowing the player access to the editor with fewer options) and only when next season rolls on that the field is added (meaning there's an easier learning curve and maybe even anticipation to how much depth the dress ups can have).

UI design is an art and this is all my best guess. If anything I say contradicts what a paid pro would do, fling this post into a bin and wash your hands after.

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* Bro, I know I'm some guy in a bar bro, but trust me bro, I know what I'm talking about bro. Bro? You've been doing this decades bro? Bro that doesn't mean my opinion isn't just as impor- bro? Where you goin' bro? Bro? OK, I'll be over here bro, got a lot of people waiting for me on social media to explain things to them bro.
 

ShinyBoots1993

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Did any of those not end in disaster?
No. :p

Just wait and see how Cable tries to handle leading the New Mutants on Earth-69 :HideThePain:

Not that Scott or Emma would ever openly admit to being wrong.
Scott would if he's not feeling vindictive that day.

Emma would only if one of her students died. Even when she was a villain she had the mentality of "It's my responsibility to ensure these kids have the skills to not die."

She'd deny responsibility for literally any other failing.

Obviously, Marvel doesn't progress at the same rate as real life, otherwise almost every character would be 60+ years older by now.
There was a comic where they asked "what would happen if everyone was aged based on the year their Issue #1 came out" and it was actually pretty good.

Like all good crossover comics, it was from Peter Parker's perspective. Dude's been depicted as a geriatric three times by my count and only one of them was cringe.

now they have flashback episodes about how Homer was actually a teenager in the 90s? This is that.
They stopped doing that because of major backlash.

The new rule is that they dated in the 70s and do not talk about what the current year is.

boots please don't send a sentinel to my house
... Fiiiine. :rolleyes:
 
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There was a comic where they asked "what would happen if everyone was aged based on the year their Issue #1 came out" and it was actually pretty good.

Like all good crossover comics, it was from Peter Parker's perspective. Dude's been depicted as a geriatric three times by my count and only one of them was cringe.
You mean Spider-Man: Life Story? Yeah, it was pretty decent with a great ending that kinds of uplifts the rest of it (at least IMO) The major problem with it is that it's only 5 issues long, so each decade only gets a single issue and that's just not enough space at all.

I think they did one or two other Life Story minis, but the only other one I remember is the Fantastic Four one which was pretty poor. The writer went for the usual shitty trap of "DUDE WHAT IF REED WAS LIKE A BAD HUSBAND OBSESSED WITH SCIENCE AND SUE CHEATS ON HIM AND DIVORCES HIM FOR NAMOR ISN'T THAT SO INTERESTING" and that dominates the whole story.
 

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I think they did one or two other Life Story minis, but the only other one I remember is the Fantastic Four one which was pretty poor. The writer went for the usual shitty trap of "DUDE WHAT IF REED WAS LIKE A BAD HUSBAND OBSESSED WITH SCIENCE AND SUE CHEATS ON HIM AND DIVORCES HIM FOR NAMOR ISN'T THAT SO INTERESTING" and that dominates the whole story.
And everyone knows only the Venture Brothers played that tune properly.
 

jonny0990

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Stuck at Laura kinney : Fall quest . Cant seem to progress , even after i finished the friendship side quest .
Cant seem to complete become her first friend task
Any help is much appreciated

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DagonKel

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Stuck at Laura kinney : Fall quest . Cant seem to progress , even after i finished the friendship side quest .
Cant seem to complete become her first friend task
Any help is much appreciated

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This is one of those RNG events where you need to sleep alone in your room. One morning she will bust in and basically yell "Be my friend!". After a while I tend to save right before sleeping and pretty much just sleep, see if she show up in the morning, if not then reload. It might be annoying but even if you don't it will happen eventually.
 

HollowVoice

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> SeveralGeese: Bunch of y'all are already complaining about being overwhelmed with texts and sexts when you have three girlfriends. Ain't no way you're gonna be able to balance the attention of fifteen.

Genghis Khan would've done that easily.
If Genghis Khan had a phone with texts and sexts, he never woulda made it the fuck outta Mongolia
 

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Small Update Posted On Discord

RonChon:hey fam, just a quick update that I'm close to handing off my thesis draft to my committee and will have a brief breather, so I'll be dropping off some art previews here and on Patreon to show off what the artists have been working on! expect to hear from me by next weekend
Good news,hope he succeeds. I'm starting to get pretty excited for the update
 
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