If the game is set in the era when Kitty joins the team then it's doubtful Emma would also be added. She was still a member of the Hellfire Club at the time and had tried to recruit Kitty to the Massachusetts Academy that the club ran.
Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]
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Oh I wish.
Discussed and planned. Just not high on the priority list since we are still barely out of pre-alpha.
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It's fun to read too much into the game's upcoming characters. So, my guesses, with absolutely no qualifications on my part:
Storm was a given, as she has already appeared.
Illyana Rasputin, since her brother is in the game. With the bonus of having a sidequest of surving an angry brother made of organic metal after he finds out your shtupping his sister.
Kitty would be an obvious choice, but as frosh, she may be too loli for Patreon. So, Jubilee or Emma would be logical, but the game is diverging from Oni's, so Polaris might work. But if given the choice, I'd go with Dazzler, who hates Rogue.
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The game is going to follow some of the iconic storylines by chapter. So chapter 2 is going to follow an iconic story from the early 80s. I would say look at the characters who were added or around at that time.
Is there content after summer ? I did all the main quests (stuck with optionnal but we don't care i guess ?) and i'm still lvl 5. Dunno if it's normal
And if somebody know how to up public shame
And if somebody know how to up public shame
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Each chapter consists of 4 seasons, so Autumn, Winter, Spring and Summer. So Chapter 1 finishes at Summer.
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Just some easy to implement quality of life feedback.
Please enable the skip dialogue button. I don't know why you disabled it since it a basic Renpy function. Without it it makes save scumming, or just try to skip ahead to see what new in the game a real pain.
Also please enable right clicking to open up the preference / save menu. Again its a basic Renpy function so not sure why you disabled it. Cause it is really annoying to have to constantly click on Preference or open up the phone to save / load instead of just being able to right click.
Now more to the realm of subjective game design philosophy.
I am glad you made this game cause it add in all the missing depth / RPG mechanics that people have been asking Oni to add to Rogue Like for years. Like more in detail dates, hygiene mechanics, other male characters, etc...
But personally I am not a fan of the quest system, and it feel like a downgrade to the original Rogue Like. Because what made the original Rogue Like such a unique gem compared to all the other countless Renpy H games is that Rogue Like feel like an actual game, and sex sandbox. Where you as the player are free to do whatever you want, without being forced to jump through unnecessary boring checkpoint hoops. Where you could flirt with a girl and get into her pants via 3 different path routes, such as love, obedience, and inhibition. You could mix and match what way you want to woo her, and do creative things. You could focus on only the girls you like, and skip the interactions with the girls you don't like. All you had to do was raise the 3 ambiguous stats whatever way you wanted with no hard requirements.
The quest system you have implemented in the game kind of just kills actual game / sandbox aspect of the game, and just turns this into another boring "visual novel". Where it not a game where players are free to make their own decisions, but rather just another linear checkbox hoop jumping game. What I am referring to is the whole you have to study with a girl x amount of times, you go to train with her y amount of times, go on z amount of dates with her. It would be better if all of those things were optional. Like they would just give you huge amounts points, rather than being hard checkpoint requirements.
Also correct me if I am wrong since I played the game for a few hours yesterday. I went and maxed my progress with Rogue, where I did all her quests, got her to max love and trust. But I literally couldn't have sex with her. Could only do foreplay actions. From searching this thread, it seems like you have to do the quest to progress your relationship all 3 girls before you can unlock actual sex with any of them. Also when asking Rogue to be the player character's girlfriend, he just straight up tells her that she has to be okay with being in a polygamous relationship. That just straight up takes away from the "game" (player choice / freedom / decision making) aspect, and turns it into a another generic linear "visual novel", where you don't have any real freedom to make your own decisions. Where you as the player are just a cog in the machine with no real autonomy going through a checklist of things. In Rogue like you can chose to be monogamous, you can ask girls to become polygamous, you can choose to keep things casual (friends with benefits), you can be polygamous / cheat arbitrarily which was what made it feel like an actual game.
So please consider changing how you implement events / missions. Make them optional, not hard requirements. Because this would actually make Null Hypothesis a successful spiritual successor (upgrade / replacement) to Rogue Like, rather another stale generic visual novel game following a stagnate overdone formula. Cause at the end of the day most people play H games for the sex and the ability to make their own decisions. Otherwise they would just go watch hentai or play a regular boring visual novel.
Just some easy to implement quality of life feedback.
Please enable the skip dialogue button. I don't know why you disabled it since it a basic Renpy function. Without it it makes save scumming, or just try to skip ahead to see what new in the game a real pain.
Also please enable right clicking to open up the preference / save menu. Again its a basic Renpy function so not sure why you disabled it. Cause it is really annoying to have to constantly click on Preference or open up the phone to save / load instead of just being able to right click.
Now more to the realm of subjective game design philosophy.
I am glad you made this game cause it add in all the missing depth / RPG mechanics that people have been asking Oni to add to Rogue Like for years. Like more in detail dates, hygiene mechanics, other male characters, etc...
But personally I am not a fan of the quest system, and it feel like a downgrade to the original Rogue Like. Because what made the original Rogue Like such a unique gem compared to all the other countless Renpy H games is that Rogue Like feel like an actual game, and sex sandbox. Where you as the player are free to do whatever you want, without being forced to jump through unnecessary boring checkpoint hoops. Where you could flirt with a girl and get into her pants via 3 different path routes, such as love, obedience, and inhibition. You could mix and match what way you want to woo her, and do creative things. You could focus on only the girls you like, and skip the interactions with the girls you don't like. All you had to do was raise the 3 ambiguous stats whatever way you wanted with no hard requirements.
The quest system you have implemented in the game kind of just kills actual game / sandbox aspect of the game, and just turns this into another boring "visual novel". Where it not a game where players are free to make their own decisions, but rather just another linear checkbox hoop jumping game. What I am referring to is the whole you have to study with a girl x amount of times, you go to train with her y amount of times, go on z amount of dates with her. It would be better if all of those things were optional. Like they would just give you huge amounts points, rather than being hard checkpoint requirements.
Also correct me if I am wrong since I played the game for a few hours yesterday. I went and maxed my progress with Rogue, where I did all her quests, got her to max love and trust. But I literally couldn't have sex with her. Could only do foreplay actions. From searching this thread, it seems like you have to do the quest to progress your relationship all 3 girls before you can unlock actual sex with any of them. Also when asking Rogue to be the player character's girlfriend, he just straight up tells her that she has to be okay with being in a polygamous relationship. That just straight up takes away from the "game" (player choice / freedom / decision making) aspect, and turns it into a another generic linear "visual novel", where you don't have any real freedom to make your own decisions. Where you as the player are just a cog in the machine with no real autonomy going through a checklist of things. In Rogue like you can chose to be monogamous, you can ask girls to become polygamous, you can choose to keep things casual (friends with benefits), you can be polygamous / cheat arbitrarily which was what made it feel like an actual game.
So please consider changing how you implement events / missions. Make them optional, not hard requirements. Because this would actually make Null Hypothesis a successful spiritual successor (upgrade / replacement) to Rogue Like, rather another stale generic visual novel game following a stagnate overdone formula. Cause at the end of the day most people play H games for the sex and the ability to make their own decisions. Otherwise they would just go watch hentai or play a regular boring visual novel.
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I think it increases with trust and love stats for each of the girls, for now at least.
I don't know of any other way to increase it other than that
I don't know if there is a cap for the actual version of the game, so maybe you're right
Laura 1000 love 1000 trust is stuck at 500
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As far as the current build stands, we have different hairstyles, accessory options, clothing and pubic hair designs plus tanned skin states and piercings. (Which is a lot in its own right)
However, hopefully in the future updates maybe we could get more customization options for the girls? Specifically, hair color options, tattoo designs, pregnancy states, make up (only rogue has iirc), armpit hair?, battle scars? slut writings? idk, the art is just so damn good in this game i want more xD
Tho I get that this would probably be a bitch to do for the art team but hey, it's just a suggestion xD
However, hopefully in the future updates maybe we could get more customization options for the girls? Specifically, hair color options, tattoo designs, pregnancy states, make up (only rogue has iirc), armpit hair?, battle scars? slut writings? idk, the art is just so damn good in this game i want more xD
Tho I get that this would probably be a bitch to do for the art team but hey, it's just a suggestion xD
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Great game really despite a few minor flaws which have already been mentioned several times and which will be resolved in the next updates, so no problems!
The only negative point that I find and which is only my personal opinion, is the lack of foot fetishism during the sex scenes. The only negative point that I find and which is only my personal opinion, is is the lack of foot fetishism during the sex scenes (I'm only in spring yet, but I doubt that even in summer there is anything at this level given that the images of the scenes every feet are out of scope apart from the one in the standing position, I could be wrong and if that is the case, I am sorry.).. I sincerely hope that new positions and sexual acts with the feet will be added in the next updates because I think it's too complicated to change the current positions, even if I don't know anything about it.
And even if that's not the case, I'll deal with it, I'm looking forward to the sequel!
The only negative point that I find and which is only my personal opinion, is the lack of foot fetishism during the sex scenes. The only negative point that I find and which is only my personal opinion, is is the lack of foot fetishism during the sex scenes (I'm only in spring yet, but I doubt that even in summer there is anything at this level given that the images of the scenes every feet are out of scope apart from the one in the standing position, I could be wrong and if that is the case, I am sorry.).. I sincerely hope that new positions and sexual acts with the feet will be added in the next updates because I think it's too complicated to change the current positions, even if I don't know anything about it.
And even if that's not the case, I'll deal with it, I'm looking forward to the sequel!
It seems the girls are also earning XP. Can we see and manage their levels and abilities in the future?
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I think Peter would actually be OK with that since the MC has already shown himself to be a solid bro by trying to help against Juggs even though he was obviously outmatched. The only thing I hope for at that point if they do add Illyana in is that they go with her comic book personality rather than that weird thing they did with the New Mutants movie. Her personality in the movie was nowhere near how she actually is.
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That is by design by the looks of it. There may be a character down the line that breaks that barrier and has less shame about appearing nude in public, but most of the ladies are going to have certain moral limits to what they will and will not do. The limit is more flexible in private with the MC.
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This game isn't meant to be an open world sex sandbox though. It doesn't attempt to be the spiritual successor to Rogue Like. In fact, it has been stated by many of the Dev team that they still encourage people to play Rogue-Like for the sort of game play you're describing.
This game has a storyline that develops both in terms of the main plot as well as the character development optional arcs for the girls and likely eventually other NPCs as well. This necessitates a different type of format to ensure that certain content is experienced in the proper order. In terms of variety, they have already discussed how future girls may have different dating requirements and thresholds.
Okay, you're wrong.
There are caps each season for maximum love and trust and so you aren't going to be able to do the RLE style rush to see how quickly you can bang a girl. That is deliberately tied to the story development for the.
You do have to build a relationship with your fellow students, but it doesn't have to be romantic. You can choose which, if any, of the girls you want to be involved with at that level. You can do a monogamous run if that suits you or even do a completely celibate run. Yes, the option to just be casual fuckbuddies is not an option, but there is even lines in there explaining why each of these girls in particular wouldn't be interested in that. You can cheat on the girls by not discussing dating other girls as well though and that has its own series of responses.
At the end of the day, they aren't trying to just make another H Game. They aren't trying to be the replacement for any game. They are trying to do something different. If that's not your thing, that is cool too. As you mention, you can always just go watch hentai or play a regular boring visual novel.
Dude pretty much put his life on the line for Colossus and Rogue. If that ain't making you ok having him as a boyfriend for your sister nothing will. But he had a fling with Kitty so...
All great guesses, the running bet on the discord for the remaining girls, besides Storm, are Kitty, Dazzler and Polaris.1)Magik
2)Marrow is an old favourite. She's got a big personality but she's rather niche in the xmen world, I fear.
3)Rachel Summers (that costume!) but having her mother here in her 20s makes everything EXTREMELY akward
That's the spirit buddy! In regards to feet, as a general rule of thumb, the more niche the kink, the less likely it will be in the game. Feet is not nearly as niche as many of the other things suggested before, so while I can't confirm or deny anything, I'll say you have a decent chance.
But that is the thing, they are just making another H game. They making a parody of Rogue Like, but stripped out the best part of Rogue Like (the freedom) and turn it into any other generic visual novel H game with just different art.
This is why I said the latter half of my post falls into the realm of "subjective" gameplay design. I feel like the game would be better as an open world sandbox rather than another standard "visual novel".
And I disagree, you can still have a dynamic sandbox game that is story driven without needing to completely lock it down into a linear format.
All it takes is a different design mindset when creating events (content), to keep certain aspect vague so that it can be modular and slotted into different points of progression. Rather than something that is overly detailed that forces you into narrowly tailored checkpoint situations. And few lines of alternating flavor text that show up conditions checks to see if you have done certain events or not.
That doesn't match at all with what I saw in game. The player character literally straight up tells Rogue that he isn't willing to be in a monogamous relationship with her when she first becomes his girlfriend. Even if you choose to abstain from having sexual relationships with other girls, thematically (canonically) it means that if you enter a relationship with Rogue you are in a polygamous relationship. You're not actually allowed to choose monogamy via dialogue (thematically), even if you choose to be monogamous via abstaining.
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Out of all this, I'll just point out that this game isn't, and never tried to be a parody of another game (such as RLE). It's a parody of the X-Men series.
In that sense, this game and RLE share the source material and inspiration. And while it's true that certain aspects of this game are inspired by RLE, it by no means tries to be the same or copy things. They are two very different games, each with their own space and niche. You can like one over the other, or both or neither.
Just understand that neither is trying to be a 2.0 version of the other. Imo, neither is perfect, but this one suits my tastes a lot more in both the art department and in the "dating sim" aspect it has going on over RLE.
As for your other points, I won't argue one way or another since I feel that this game is still in it's early stages and I want to see how everything starts looking like once Chapter 2 rolls around. I see potential for TNH to be one of the best adult games ever for me, but there's always the possibility of something being implemented in just the "right" way to make my perception of the game take a U-turn.
With all that said, it's quite clear that TNH is going heavy in the direction of being a fleshed out dating sim, with a heavy focus on character.
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