Evil13

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oh before I forget, just gonna drop this for those that don't know the lore......

What people are expecting Psylocke to look like once she's introduced:

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What's she's actually gonna look like at first when she's introduced:

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.....unless RonChon Dev team change it or something
Don't take this as confirmation, as Betsy Braddock is still at least a full chapter away from being introduced, if she is introduced, so anything can change. But there has been a couple of ideas of Betsy remaining in her British version for the game and then her body swap happening off screen, so her Japanese version could appear in a sequel. But that's only an idea, one of many that were thrown about.
 
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I just got through reading about 300-ish pages of this thread while looking for ch 2 teasers, and realized I couldn't stop even when I found them- you're all a bunch of lunatics, and I love it.

I have roughly 17,000 questions, only one of which I can remember at the moment (sorry if it's been answered- 300 pages in 2 days, I'm sure I missed lots of stuff). Many moons ago, in the Before Times, ShinyBoots gave some insight into the girls' quirks about how they're not just sexy kinks- they're unhealthy coping mechanisms. I can see that for each of the girls, and last time I played (0.7b, before I read any of this thread) I got that feeling from Rogue's hesitance to even order her own food during dates.

My concern is... well, I'm into those quirks- at least, the non-femdom ones. But as into them as I am, I'd rather rip out my own toenails than hurt the girls in any genuine way. Will we be able to- while those quirks are active- actively realize how harmful they can be, help the girls overcome their issues, and engage those quirks in a healthy, kinky way? Or will they always be emotional crutches?

OH ALSO- I remembered a second question. It's also been said that my man Spidey has his own selection of ladies, if I read that right. I imagine they include MJ and Felicia; is that correct? Who else is Peter porking? And who else in Earth-69 has their own gaggle of gals/guys?
 

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My concern is... well, I'm into those quirks- at least, the non-femdom ones. But as into them as I am, I'd rather rip out my own toenails than hurt the girls in any genuine way. Will we be able to- while those quirks are active- actively realize how harmful they can be, help the girls overcome their issues, and engage those quirks in a healthy, kinky way? Or will they always be emotional crutches?
You can always discourage the quirks as they appear. And it's still early days yet. Rogue, for example, might not always remain as her goth self, instead evolving into the vivacious and boundless character we know from the comics.
 
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You can always discourage the quirks as they appear. And it's still early days yet. Rogue, for example, might not always remain as her goth self, instead evolving into the vivacious and boundless character we know from the comics.
Yeah, I understand that. My issue is that I want to engage in the kinky aspect of the quirk after overcoming the emotional damage that initially leads to it. Like, Rogue starts off desperate to surrender control of her life to Null, it goes on for a while, but eventually it comes to a head- and she and Null work through it together over the course of the game and she eventually becomes a bundle of southern sunshine. Afterwards, though, she still enjoys playing the submissive masochist when it comes to sex- it's just no longer defining or underlining her whole outlook on life. Just tryna figure out if the devs have plans for the quirks to ever be expressed in a healthy manner after character development, rather than just being turned on/off.
 
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One thing I've been curious about which has been getting more prevalent with recent updates is regarding quirks, since I pretty much encouraged all of them just because I didn't want to chastise any of the girls and make them seem less unique down the line. But I remember seeing comments months ago that the quirks may not always play out to the character's or Null's benefit and I can see potential consequences for each character or how they may develop in future chapters in terms of look and personality.

Staring off with Rogue, I don't know if it's possible for her to develop a personality similar to her X-Men TAS counterpart if the player discourages the submissive and masochism quirks, as those quirks seem to be more opposite of the characterization presented in that media as she's more independent and outspoken. In which a more free-spirited and flirtatious personality can coincide to the chapters/arcs where she has longer hair such as Savage Land.

X-23 it's easier for me to see how her protectiveness quirk may play out in the story such as in a hypothetical scenario, she may injure or attack Emma, where Emma is not hostile to Null but due to her current or former role as an antagonist it creates conflict between those two that may affect the relationship between the two of them and Null.

With Jean I can see the Big Sister Quirk maybe playing a role with how she sees Null down the line in terms as his own individual and maybe as someone who she can confide into on a equal level or not during Chapter 2 more so than the big sis/little bro dynamic she's been trying to establish.

And maybe with Storm, depending on her quirks it could a play role in her transitioning into her Mohawk phase or keeping her status quo/personality we're currently familiar with so far in the story.

I don't know if I'm looking too deeply into the quirks specifically and their future implications, but stuff like this being potential possibilities would help me plan out the direction I want to go on my full Chapter 1 replay whenever development is done.
 

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OH ALSO- I remembered a second question. It's also been said that my man Spidey has his own selection of ladies, if I read that right. I imagine they include MJ and Felicia; is that correct? Who else is Peter porking? And who else in Earth-69 has their own gaggle of gals/guys?
Afaik, Kurt has Amanda Sefton, Piotr will have his love interest/interests other than Kitty for obvious reasons, and TNH dev team are currently discussing whether getting Scott and Madelyne together or not if she's added to story.
 

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Afaik, Kurt has Amanda Sefton, Piotr will have his love interest/interests other than Kitty for obvious reasons, and TNH dev team are currently discussing whether getting Scott and Madelyne together or not if she's added to story.
Ye ye, I remember reading those. I was specifically asking about who else has MULTIPLE partners, because I also seem to remember reading that Null's harem/polycule setup isn't unique in the setting (given Earth-69's much more sex-positive attitude)- and I THINK I remember reading that Spidey was an example. Maybe I worded the question badly. Thanks, though.

Edit- I'm aware of how the Free Love movement lasted a lot longer/never really stopped in this reality, so just wanna get that on the table.
 

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Don't take this as confirmation, as Betsy Braddock is still at least a full chapter away from being introduced, if she is introduced, so anything can change. But there has been a couple of ideas of Betsy remaining in her British version for the game and then her body swap happening off screen, so her Japanese version could appear in a sequel. But that's only an idea, one of many that were thrown about.
With all due respect to the writers and whatever their preferences may be, this sounds like a worst-case scenario to me. I've never met another comic fan who actually liked "original" Betsy (or Kwannon as a separate character of her own for that matter) and I really think that most people would prefer to just see her as her most iconic and recognizable in pop culture self from the start. In addition, those who are familiar with the body swap story usually don't actually think it's even a good story (not to mention that in the context of modern politics there's now a stigma around it), is there some kind of value in either adapting or avoiding-but-having-to-later-acknowledge it that I'm not seeing?

As I'm sure I've posted in this thread at least once before, why not simply make her an Asian woman from Britain from birth?

Her and Captain Britain can be half-siblings if that's the sticking point and you don't want Brian and Jamie to also be Asian. Maybe their dad has a poly relationship too since that's a thing on this Earth and he is weathly elite. Then you can at least use the character's dialogue talking about her origins and family to help establish how common this is and it's not just Null himself having porn-game-protagonist-powers.
 
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With all due respect to the writers and whatever their preferences may be, this sounds like a worst-case scenario to me. I've never met another comic fan who actually liked "original" Betsy (or Kwannon as a separate character of her own for that matter) and I really think that most people would prefer to just see her as her most iconic and recognizable in pop culture self from the start. In addition, those who are familiar with the body swap story usually don't actually think it's even a good story (not to mention that in the context of modern politics there's now a stigma around it), is there some kind of value in either adapting or avoiding-but-having-to-later-acknowledge it that I'm not seeing?

As I'm sure I've posted in this thread at least once before, why not simply make her an Asian woman from Britain from birth?

Her and Captain Britain can be half-siblings if that's the sticking point and you don't want Brian and Jamie to also be Asian. Maybe their dad has a poly relationship too since that's a thing on this Earth and he is weathly elite. Then you can at least use the character's dialogue talking about her origins and family to help establish how common this is and it's not just Null himself having porn-game-protagonist-powers.
Ill say it again, Oni's take on the matter its pretty functional.
Her dad is british, her mom japanese, her brother takes after his father, and she takes after her mother, no need to make it complicated, and that way we get asian psylocke we all know and love.
 
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Ill say it again, Oni's take on the matter its pretty functional.
Her dad is british, her mom japanese, her brother takes after his father, and she takes after her mother, no need to make it complicated, and that way we get asian psylocke we all know and love.
I hate to encourage anything that makes people draw more similarities to RLE (unavoidable as it may be), partly because I actually fucking hate almost everything Oni has done in his game that makes it different from normal X-Men content or the Evo cartoon it was supposed to be based on (sorry fans of bitch-Jean, not sorry at all to fans of Gwen and Squirrel Girl - those two are the reason I stopped supporting on patreon and don't even play it anymore)

...but yeah, just make her Asian from the start. No good reason not to.
 

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Ill say it again, Oni's take on the matter its pretty functional.
Her dad is british, her mom japanese, her brother takes after his father, and she takes after her mother, no need to make it complicated, and that way we get asian psylocke we all know and love.
Honestly, even the few times I did read X-men as a kid/teenager, I completely missed that she's Asian. And like, I actually do speak Chinese and Japanese and did martial arts. Hell, I'm sitting in a 和室 (sans tatami though... Considering getting some). It blew my mind that anyone would take actually look at her in the comics and recognize her for being Asian. I'm still in the camp of "Don't bring it up and let the reader/player make up the head cannon for themselves." since these are fictional characters and it's all in our heads anyways. But I forget what Shiny and the devs ended up landing on for their approach.
 

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Honestly, even the few times I did read X-men as a kid/teenager, I completely missed that she's Asian. And like, I actually do speak Chinese and Japanese and did martial arts. Hell, I'm sitting in a 和室 (sans tatami though... Considering getting some). It blew my mind that anyone would take actually look at her in the comics and recognize her for being Asian. I'm still in the camp of "Don't bring it up and let the reader/player make up the head cannon for themselves." since these are fictional characters and it's all in our heads anyways. But I forget what Shiny and the devs ended up landing on for their approach.
Western comic art "house styles" are not known for facial detail, which can make determining race from that alone pretty vague. Psylocke is also meant to be a practitioner of Ninjutsu, not that only Japanese people can be ninjas... (her outfit might not reflect that if your cultural touchstone for such things is authentic, but it makes perfect sense if you compare her to contemporaries of the 80's and 90's like Elektra in Daredevil or Kitana and Mileena in Mortal Kombat II).

In any case, in this game's more painterly artstyle I'd expect race would be a lot more evident in the face.
 
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Honestly, even the few times I did read X-men as a kid/teenager, I completely missed that she's Asian. And like, I actually do speak Chinese and Japanese and did martial arts. Hell, I'm sitting in a 和室 (sans tatami though... Considering getting some). It blew my mind that anyone would take actually look at her in the comics and recognize her for being Asian. I'm still in the camp of "Don't bring it up and let the reader/player make up the head cannon for themselves." since these are fictional characters and it's all in our heads anyways. But I forget what Shiny and the devs ended up landing on for their approach.
She was a cool ninja, just because you werent able to see it doesnt means the rest of us didnt believe that in the 90s, besides, the art for this game is much more detailed than the old comics, wich at best the details you could get were the covers.

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I mean damn Rogue. I get that your happy to have someone who can null your power, but I didn't expect you to be THIS excited. screenshot0004.png screenshot0005.png

Decided to do a restart after some fun time with Rogue and now this. Either one hell of a bug, not that I mind of course, or the Eldrich Dildo Machine is at play. -Unsure-
 
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One thing I've been curious about which has been getting more prevalent with recent updates is regarding quirks, since I pretty much encouraged all of them just because I didn't want to chastise any of the girls and make them seem less unique down the line. But I remember seeing comments months ago that the quirks may not always play out to the character's or Null's benefit and I can see potential consequences for each character or how they may develop in future chapters in terms of look and personality.

Staring off with Rogue, I don't know if it's possible for her to develop a personality similar to her X-Men TAS counterpart if the player discourages the submissive and masochism quirks, as those quirks seem to be more opposite of the characterization presented in that media as she's more independent and outspoken. In which a more free-spirited and flirtatious personality can coincide to the chapters/arcs where she has longer hair such as Savage Land.

X-23 it's easier for me to see how her protectiveness quirk may play out in the story such as in a hypothetical scenario, she may injure or attack Emma, where Emma is not hostile to Null but due to her current or former role as an antagonist it creates conflict between those two that may affect the relationship between the two of them and Null.

With Jean I can see the Big Sister Quirk maybe playing a role with how she sees Null down the line in terms as his own individual and maybe as someone who she can confide into on a equal level or not during Chapter 2 more so than the big sis/little bro dynamic she's been trying to establish.

And maybe with Storm, depending on her quirks it could a play role in her transitioning into her Mohawk phase or keeping her status quo/personality we're currently familiar with so far in the story.

I don't know if I'm looking too deeply into the quirks specifically and their future implications, but stuff like this being potential possibilities would help me plan out the direction I want to go on my full Chapter 1 replay whenever development is done.
Rogue is submissives and a bit of a masochist. Nothing entirely wrong with that. Flip side, would indeed be curious to see the flip side that. Hand cuffing us to the bed or chair and riding us till we are empty with the gals watching... Not that I'm against that.

Jean pretty much has a bit of a incest kink with that whole bro/sis dynamic. Would have been interesting, and hilarious, if we could choose to be somewhat older going into college and have some measure of a history or background as to why we went to college at say for example 21-23. Goodbye bro kink, hello daddy kink.
 

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She was a cool ninja, just because you werent able to see it doesnt means the rest of us didnt believe that in the 90s, besides, the art for this game is much more detailed than the old comics, wich at best the details you could get were the covers.
That's kind of my point though. You believed it. You didn't need someone to go "LOOK! AZN! NINJA!" We all know who Psylocke is. We all know what she's suppose to be. Why say it?
 

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That's kind of my point though. You believed it. You didn't need someone to go "LOOK! AZN! NINJA!" We all know who Psylocke is. We all know what she's suppose to be. Why say it?
Because in the process of getting to know each girl you're dating, they tell you about where they come from and their lives before the institute?
 
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Because in the process of getting to know each girl you're dating, they tell you about where they come from and their lives before the institute?
Right, how many of the love interests so far in game have told you so far their race? For example, what race is Laura? Because, last I checked, none. They say, in writing, less is more. Like you mentioned, Elektra isn't Japanese, but she learned martial arts. So with Psylocke, it could be, "I trained with X and Y in Japan as a child."
 
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