I already hate the grinding in this game. Adding more grinding for the sake of grinding is not my idea of a good time.
Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8b1] [Ron Chon]
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I'm sorry our narrative based relationship simulator with intentionally written slow burn approach to romance doesn't have an instant sex button.
have you not read any of the previous posts in this thread about it being a slow burn game or did you willfully ignore everything hoping it would be easy?
Casted420
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Dude there is a cheat. Just press up up down down left right left right A B in the Null's shower. It will activate Logan's birthday event, and Sabertooth will appear to drag you into his sex dungeon.
The massage part of Rogue-like was too annoying to figure out the right order. I looked up the right order in the code, but quickly lost interest to repeat this.
It's not a lot of fun if you have to constantly check spreadsheets to look up what to do in a game.
if the main quest objective events in TNH are a bit more delayed, then the waiting time for relationship events won't feel such a drag in the long run.
At least I have faith in v0.6 to further increase the general enjoyment of the game.
It's not a lot of fun if you have to constantly check spreadsheets to look up what to do in a game.
if the main quest objective events in TNH are a bit more delayed, then the waiting time for relationship events won't feel such a drag in the long run.
At least I have faith in v0.6 to further increase the general enjoyment of the game.
armond
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You may just have a bad memory, I suggest small doses of point and click adventure games coupled with learning code breaking to increase complex problem solving, or a pen and paper if you can afford it
hm. I've tried that and haven't gotten anything to work. I did get the initial date dialogue in summer and waited to spring to try to date her. Maybe that was the issue? Don't know for sure but still can't date her.
I think what Shinyboots means is that Jean's dating scene starts when you go to do something in your room alone. Jean sends you many text messages and things go from there. I got the scene during the 1st part of the game so it doesn't seem to be act locked. I got the scene when I studied in my room during the Evening tho. These are my stats with Jean when she first offered to date, if that helps.
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Putting a treadmill into a game is not a slow burn. It's a grind. Have fun with pretending otherwise.
armond
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I always love the cope post where people try to brow beat your criticism with "it's slow burn, SLOW BURN!"
It always seems to be code for nothing of value happens, but to be fair this is very early in development so I'm sure the pace will even out over time.In addition to the helpful pictures what VictorHayes posted:
These are the conditions for the shown asked_on_date event of Jean:
conditions = [
"QuestPool.Quests['Jean_friendship_Quest'].completed",
"Jean.location not in ['hold', Player.location, Player.destination]",
"not get_Present(location = Player.destination)[0]",
"time_index >= 3",
"Jean.is_in_normal_mood()"]
That means that the previous Friendship quest is completed.
Jean should currently not be in the player's location.
Time is evening/night.
Jean shouldn't be currenly mad.
Sometimes these events have a delay of at least 3 days, but can't remember anymore how quickly this date one appeared.
Also not sure how this all works, but the events of other girls could always delay other girls' events if there is a long chain waiting in the event scheduler list.
It will. The writers are hard at work finetuning things and adding other methods to progress so you don't have to spam the pool all the time.
What grind there is will fade into the background as we add more meaningful interactions.
Given how early it is, I can excuse things being barebones. My problem comes from the people who seem to have never played games that are about story and not a treadmill. WOW mindset has infected so many it's disturbing.I always love the cope post where people try to brow beat your criticism with "it's slow burn, SLOW BURN!"
Casted420
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You can almost hear the reeeing of the Farming Simulator franchise fans.
This game is not a visual novel where all events happen automatically in a linear order, this is a sandbox game with a main history.
You can choose what to do in Null daily activities, also any game that have any sort of progression system can be considered grind as you need to perform some basic action and repeat it to progress, if you are expecting a visual novel where you can hold ctrl until a sex scene appears this game is not for you. Yes we will add more events, but in the end they are like the ones we already, (written) have but with different things happening.
Trust and love is representing your connection and intimacy with the character as daily life events happens, it needs to be this way and it is this way, this is a game, there will be only a finite ways of increasing those representative values after all.
If you do not enjoy the game writing at all i suggest to go play something else.
You can choose what to do in Null daily activities, also any game that have any sort of progression system can be considered grind as you need to perform some basic action and repeat it to progress, if you are expecting a visual novel where you can hold ctrl until a sex scene appears this game is not for you. Yes we will add more events, but in the end they are like the ones we already, (written) have but with different things happening.
Trust and love is representing your connection and intimacy with the character as daily life events happens, it needs to be this way and it is this way, this is a game, there will be only a finite ways of increasing those representative values after all.
If you do not enjoy the game writing at all i suggest to go play something else.
Raphael98
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ShinyBoots1993 could you ask if it is an oversight that all of the model3.json files specifically reference png files, but all the images in the folders referenced are webp?
I will edit this later with Ron official reply, but for now my answer is that webp is considerably a new compression and quality retention method, i'm sure you know that just saying for people that are curious of what is this.
But as i said, it's a better method of optimization for images, perfect for a game like this one, so in my personal opinion is probably not an oversight.
Raphael98
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I'm not saying they should be PNGs (I agree that webp is the better format*). I'm saying that the json files are referencing images that technically don't exist. Until JoiPlay's Renpy plugin gets updated to a version that is compatible with the live2dmodel 'change_color' attribute/function, it won't be known if JoiPlay will still error on this or not, but it was one of the hurdles I found in trying to get it to work. It's looking for png files and they aren't there. The json files should be changed to reference the webp images that do exist. Or changed to be format agnostic, but I am not sure if that's possible.
*until Renpy supports jpeg-xl
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Thwip!
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Yeah, but here's the thing:
It was always optional in RL:E. Meaning, if you wanted to do it, that option was always there. If you didn't, then no content was skipped and your experience wasn't negatively impacted.
I'm sure it would be optional in this game too.