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Tommy7358

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I really should coin this as an internet law

Sicko's law: the more disgusting something is, the louder and more aggressive the minority that wants it is in to pushing it on others.

The best examples of this are cuck/blacked/orc'ed and all other forms of NTR (fat ugly bastard and the like). Another example is foot and smell people, Quentin Tarantino became a director just to get hollywood starlets to indulge him in his foot fetish and force the whole planet to watch.

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If my theory that Null and Shaw are related holds up I would not be surprised to see the yaoi & bara people start coming out of the woodwork.


Ah fuck, you're right. It's not even a porn thing, they straight up fuck in the comics... Can't believe I forgot about that.

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ShinyBoots1993 Are Wanda and her brother shacked up in this timeline?
What the hell?! So the jokes that came out when Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Elizabeth Olsen who played Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were cast as husband and wife in the 2014 Godzilla film are comic accurate?!
 

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What the hell?! So the jokes that came out when Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Elizabeth Olsen who played Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were cast as husband and wife in the 2014 Godzilla film are comic accurate?!
In Ultimate Marvel I believe it was. There are a ton of comic book continuities, so many contradictory things are "comic book accurate". Don't sweat it too much or take every version of a character as the same cohesive character history.

And for the love of all, please don't drag certain things up(you'll know) from the end of August.
 
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In Ultimate Marvel I believe it was. There are a ton of comic book continuities, so many contradictory things are "comic book accurate". Don't sweat it too much or take every version of a character as the same cohesive character history.

And for the love of all, please don't drag certain things up from the end of August.
Yeah, I'm not assuming that all Wandas and Pietros are in love with each other, just surprised that there's even a canon reality where it's true instead of being fanfiction written by an F95Zoner.

And as I finally reach September I now get why you specifically asked me if I had reached September yet... Don't worry, I don't plan to dredge out anything that'll land me in anyone's shit list.
 
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But are we talking about Scott going all out though?

Because thats some serious firepower.

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God Damn, i can see Null getting kicked to asteroid M if he survives one of those head on.



My mind immediately went to these two clips when I saw the two panels, couldn't help it.
 
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Groundhog day with the friend points... anyway I'm pretty exited to see Null hook up with the evil bitch nice blond telepath lady too. The reactions to Emma being around will be delicious.
Hope Jean and Emma can kiss and make up. :love:
Now there's an idea...

Thinking there should be like, "friendship events" between Jean and Emma in particular, because while i imagine the grind to make them friends so you can date both is gonna be a pain (assuming they start at the worse possible level), that'd get a lot less repetitive if the game had scenes of them getting closer between each section to look forward to

Not to mention it'd feel less anticlimactic than taking them both to the pool until one day bam they're best friends
 

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Will the sneaky Skrull known as "Steve Jobs" steal the X-Phone and launch the iphone in ch3?:ROFLMAO:
Who keeps leaking my idea doc???

So you're why there's so many Thirsty Jean memes.
Naaaah. I wish. I'm not that creative.

An excellent game!
Thank you. You got a lot of questions and I hope I can answer them in a satisfying way.

Jean and her quirk about "fake incest," where she first suggests the protagonist call her "big sister," and then even starts acting like one. I'm not against it, but the way she plays this role feels somewhat... naive and forced. She doesn't give the impression of someone who's turned on by incest, even if it's pretend. And if it's part of "domination and control," her idea of control seems pretty liberal. Is this a bug or a feature?
Jean has two older brothers, an older sister, and one younger sister.

She has a lot of dudes being in authority over her and suffers middle child syndrome when it comes to being a daughter.

The faux incest stems from resentment held toward her family and Null twisting the allegory of a dorm sister.*

Initially it's a way to exert control over you and develops into a full on kink for the reasons stated above.

The "liberal" part is because we don't want to force players into that dynamic so we leaned into her losing some confidence, assuming you'd just go along with it. If you do go along with it she continues to push.


*Some colleges, not all, have a "big sibling" program for freshmen. Seniors and juniors helping them acclimate. I pointed this out and thought it'd be a good entry point to that quirk.

Jean's invitation for a first date, while delivered with confidence, makes it seem like she's subconsciously expecting a refusal right up to the last moment. If you discuss relationships with her and voice your Napoleonic plans about a harem, she won't be thrilled. But the dialogue gives the impression that Jean isn't talking to a new student, but to a mix of Brad Pitt and Apollo, at whose feet women fall with a snap of a finger. Yet Jean herself is hotter than hell, the top psyker around, smart, beautiful, a Komsomol member, an activist, and an athlete... I mean, she's the kind of girl with a trail of broken hearts behind her, and not just from guys. Is it just me, or does she subconsciously value herself much lower than I just valued her?
Jean has gifted child syndrome and neglected socialization. After Iceman, Beast, and Angel left Cyclops was really her only connection to the OG team and she never clicked with the newer team members or students.

A lot of guys are intimidated by her because she's the campus' "perfect girl" and those who got to know her find her a little high strung.

The fact that she finally got a "win" in both friendship and romance with you took her way off guard and she shows a possessiveness over you even when you're in poly.

Specifically there's a scene where Rogue kisses you and Jean asserts her top bitch position by kissing you more passionately.

Jean's "domination" on the first date consists of her timidly asking if she can order for you. On one hand, it's quite cute; on the other hand, it's so sad that I'd even eat sawdust soup if it helped her feel more confident. And in later dates, she doesn't act like a tyrant/dominant/abuser at all. The peak of her "domination" is that she wants to order for you (from what you yourself choose!), and on movie nights, you watch documentaries instead of feature films. Considering I like them about as much as she does, I feel zero pressure. During sex scenes, she acts with full dedication, and again, I didn't see any pressure. Is her quirk simply a desire for control, or has she already ordered a flugelhorn, a whip, and an SS leather coat from Amazon, and the delivery is just delayed?
I don't really read it as timid. More like naively bossy.

She's not going to be a big dominatrix. Her initial role of dorm sibling and being older than you causes a desire to be nurturing. If you activate her quirk, her "control" is her perceived best interest for you.

She orders the food and chooses the documentaries that she thinks is for your own improvement.

Big Sis intends to spoil and nurture her lil' bro. Not peg him.

The lack of a sexual relationship between Jean and Scott – is it part of their character, or players' ability to see NTR everywhere women aren't throwing themselves at their, and only their, dick? As I understood from the plot, Jean (18+) dated Scott (18+) for several years. Yet, when Jean suggests dating the protagonist, she gets offended if you ask if she's single, and mentions that she and Scott haven't even kissed. Meanwhile, the player is offered to date and get horizontal so easily and quickly it's almost awkward. Is the translation in my version of the game just that distinctive, or did the Jean-Scott pair really decide to take things that slowly?
I can't explain why Scott and Jean aren't a couple because that'd be spoiling a story that Maddeninggg is holding onto. I'm not sure when it will be implemented.

Though what I can say is that Scott and Jean tried dating and it didn't last long.

The reason why Jean jumps into your bed so quickly is because she feels like she wasted her college years trying to keep her GPA perfect.

Again she's the older and more "mature" one so she knows what she wants and takes it.

This is inferred and explicitly stated in some dialogue that you either overlooked or haven't seen yet.

The protagonist's regeneration – does it work by accelerating biological processes (healing), or by restoring him to the health level he had before being harmed? In the finale, his skin chars and immediately restores, then his flesh, and then his body burns down to the bones! And it restores almost instantly. It was epic, but fantastical even by the game's standards. My question is, with enough energy, can the protagonist restore himself from a skeleton, or is brain damage a one-way trip?
The only thing I am permitted to say on this is that it is possible for Null to die. Depending on the method, it can be easy for him to die.

Anything other than that and our head writer will murder my family.

Why did everything stop when Null touched Jean? He can suppress her powers, not the ones trying to fry him. And were they even trying to fry him, or was it just a test flap of the wings?
Test flap and the power of friendship/love woke her up.

You'll notice that even if you don't romance the girls, all of the quests get you to a point where you earn the girls' trust.

We're expanding platonic relationships so it'll be more obvious.

Does Rouge have an inferiority complex? During the first meetings, it seemed she avoided others because of her ability, but then she says herself, and the plot reveals, that there are other reasons. But what they are, she won't admit, and I didn't understand. Is the answer in her romance route, or will it be revealed later, even on the "friendship" path?
People often don't know this because they either got in during the Claremont Era or the 90s Cartoon Show, where it's understated in both instances, but Rogue has SEVERE insecurity issues early on after she joins the X-Men. Evo's goth interpretation, and thus ours, stems from these earlier appearances.

You'll learn more as the plot unfolds but her initial rock bottom confidence is inline with her early comic appearances.

Both friends and boyfriends will learn her reasons.

Why does the protagonist have such a strange set of powers? It started simple – negating/suppressing mutant powers, and only mutant powers (it was funny with Juggernaut). But then, as someone rightly said in the school chat, it's like he's really pulling superpowers out of his ass. Regeneration and endurance, then energy absorption, and as players, we see the potential to upgrade to X-ray vision and shapeshifting. A strange and inconsistent set.
Okay the least satisfying answer... Spoilers.

Null's X-Gene is... confused. That's all I can say without the head writer killing my family and kidnapping my dog.

And what does the Null Hypothesis have to do with it?
There's a 6 layered pun to the title of the game. Whoever guesses all 6 layers gets a unique discord role.

So far people have only gotten to the 4th layer. The 5th can be easily guessed if people go from the right angle, they haven't yet, and the 6th requires a really lucky guess until about mid way through Chapter 3. In which case people can easily guess it if they think hard enough.
 
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Groundhog day with the friend points... anyway I'm pretty exited to see Null hook up with the evil bitch nice blond telepath lady too. The reactions to Emma being around will be delicious.
Hope Jean and Emma can kiss and make up. :love:
Now there's an idea...

Thinking there should be like, "friendship events" between Jean and Emma in particular, because while i imagine the grind to make them friends so you can date both is gonna be a pain (assuming they start at the worse possible level), that'd get a lot less repetitive if the game had scenes of them getting closer between each section to look forward to

Not to mention it'd feel less anticlimactic than taking them both to the pool until one day bam they're best friends
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Now there's an idea...

Thinking there should be like, "friendship events" between Jean and Emma in particular, because while i imagine the grind to make them friends so you can date both is gonna be a pain (assuming they start at the worse possible level), that'd get a lot less repetitive if the game had scenes of them getting closer between each section to look forward to

Not to mention it'd feel less anticlimactic than taking them both to the pool until one day bam they're best friends
I'd love for them to be very close, but there's no lesbian tag and who knows what's in the works. But I'm open for whatever. Something something "let them cook" or something.
 

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An excellent game! I really loved the combination of beautiful artwork, an interesting plot, and the character interactions. But this interest has a flip side, as I'd like to clarify some points that I couldn't find (or maybe missed) answers to within the game itself. Apologies in advance for my English.

While playing through "Hypothesis," I couldn't help but notice how much it differs from its progenitor and ideological inspiration in terms of the depiction of female characters (and not just their appearance!) and the presence of a plot. Despite having quite extensive sexual content, the girls in the game come across as real characters, with their own motivations, desires, and goals that exist outside of any particular relationship. But sometimes I don't understand these aspirations and desires, or certain moments. For example:

Jean and her quirk about "fake incest," where she first suggests the protagonist call her "big sister," and then even starts acting like one. I'm not against it, but the way she plays this role feels somewhat... naive and forced. She doesn't give the impression of someone who's turned on by incest, even if it's pretend. And if it's part of "domination and control," her idea of control seems pretty liberal. Is this a bug or a feature?

Jean's invitation for a first date, while delivered with confidence, makes it seem like she's subconsciously expecting a refusal right up to the last moment. If you discuss relationships with her and voice your Napoleonic plans about a harem, she won't be thrilled. But the dialogue gives the impression that Jean isn't talking to a new student, but to a mix of Brad Pitt and Apollo, at whose feet women fall with a snap of a finger. Yet Jean herself is hotter than hell, the top psyker around, smart, beautiful, a Komsomol member, an activist, and an athlete... I mean, she's the kind of girl with a trail of broken hearts behind her, and not just from guys. Is it just me, or does she subconsciously value herself much lower than I just valued her?

Jean's "domination" on the first date consists of her timidly asking if she can order for you. On one hand, it's quite cute; on the other hand, it's so sad that I'd even eat sawdust soup if it helped her feel more confident. And in later dates, she doesn't act like a tyrant/dominant/abuser at all. The peak of her "domination" is that she wants to order for you (from what you yourself choose!), and on movie nights, you watch documentaries instead of feature films. Considering I like them about as much as she does, I feel zero pressure. During sex scenes, she acts with full dedication, and again, I didn't see any pressure. Is her quirk simply a desire for control, or has she already ordered a flugelhorn, a whip, and an SS leather coat from Amazon, and the delivery is just delayed?

The lack of a sexual relationship between Jean and Scott – is it part of their character, or players' ability to see NTR everywhere women aren't throwing themselves at their, and only their, dick? As I understood from the plot, Jean (18+) dated Scott (18+) for several years. Yet, when Jean suggests dating the protagonist, she gets offended if you ask if she's single, and mentions that she and Scott haven't even kissed. Meanwhile, the player is offered to date and get horizontal so easily and quickly it's almost awkward. Is the translation in my version of the game just that distinctive, or did the Jean-Scott pair really decide to take things that slowly?

The protagonist's regeneration – does it work by accelerating biological processes (healing), or by restoring him to the health level he had before being harmed? In the finale, his skin chars and immediately restores, then his flesh, and then his body burns down to the bones! And it restores almost instantly. It was epic, but fantastical even by the game's standards. My question is, with enough energy, can the protagonist restore himself from a skeleton, or is brain damage a one-way trip?

Why did everything stop when Null touched Jean? He can suppress her powers, not the ones trying to fry him. And were they even trying to fry him, or was it just a test flap of the wings?

Does Rouge have an inferiority complex? During the first meetings, it seemed she avoided others because of her ability, but then she says herself, and the plot reveals, that there are other reasons. But what they are, she won't admit, and I didn't understand. Is the answer in her romance route, or will it be revealed later, even on the "friendship" path?

Why does the protagonist have such a strange set of powers? It started simple – negating/suppressing mutant powers, and only mutant powers (it was funny with Juggernaut). But then, as someone rightly said in the school chat, it's like he's really pulling superpowers out of his ass. Regeneration and endurance, then energy absorption, and as players, we see the potential to upgrade to X-ray vision and shapeshifting. A strange and inconsistent set.

And what does the Null Hypothesis have to do with it?
From my understanding, as someone who hasn't touched a X-Men comic since I was a wee lad (so take it with a grain of salt) and is a arm-chair therapist at best

First of all, Jean is somewhat neurotic from being extracted from a normal family dynamic from a young age (10-11), she feels like she has missed a big part of her life; she throws herself Into her studies to compensate, being a perfectionist when it comes to that

As you can imagine, these traits when unaddressed start coming up more and more in her relationships, the Big sister stuff comes across as naive and forced because it _is_, Jean is trying to recreate a dynamic that she feels she has missed out on by never being able to partake in it; "that's what people from uni's do right?" As she says

I imagine her "dominating" quirk is more about struggling for control of her own circumstances than dominatrix, and again, she's projecting this into the relationship, while also making sure that things don't go to shit with Null by being too demanding, which is something I imagine led her and Scott to break up in this continuity, so now she's hesitant

Tldr: Jean's a fucking mess

You're looking at Quirks as fetishes, and while they can at first look like that, they're more like major issues with the person disguising themselves as kinky fun

The relationship with Scott...well while I do imagine there is some of what you said in that reasoning, when you look at Marvel relationships as a whole.....well they aren't usually the healthiest, theirs included, I just chalk this up as being consistent with the comics

Null's power's are "evolving", and they aren't as random as it seems, what's actually going on is that they force themselves to mutate when in a situation of life or death, somewhat copying other mutants powers, how and why? Dunno, that's a major plot point that's gonna be revealed later
 

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Now there's an idea...

Thinking there should be like, "friendship events" between Jean and Emma in particular, because while i imagine the grind to make them friends so you can date both is gonna be a pain (assuming they start at the worse possible level), that'd get a lot less repetitive if the game had scenes of them getting closer between each section to look forward to

Not to mention it'd feel less anticlimactic than taking them both to the pool until one day bam they're best friends
Null: *sees two girls not being friends* Both of you into the pool. I want to date you both.

The girls: But we don't want to get in the pool. We don't even like each other.

Null: *repeatedly takes the girls to the pool until they are friends, forcibly applying sunscreen as needed* Are you friends yet? ARE YOU FRIENDS YET?
 

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So, I don't get how this wardrobe thing works. When I have all outfits disabled but one, how are they wearing different outfits?
 

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You live to disappoint him.


I suggested this and got shut down.

I think at most some girls will go on dates with nameless, faceless dudes just as flavor texts to show that they have lives outside of Null but nothing that'd attract an NTR War.
I agree that most would be fine with a system like you suggested if the love interests are not permanently locked off by it; I'd personally even roleplay it as the love interests trying to move on from new boy wonder Null and yet still keep pining after him but I also think you're underestimating how easy it'll be to trigger an NTR War here, especially if the nameless dates insinuate any form of action.

This was brought up but also shut down.

The girls are being updated so that some won't inherently be attracted to Null or that their thirst will reign in if you don't show interest.

Kinda want to avoid having it feel like they're in constant heat lol
Edit: After reading on a bit more with your other replies I wanted to ask a few questions that I hope you can clarify on. Is the current plan regarding the platonic relationships with the love interests for the foreseeable future to be where Null can still max out their Love and Trust, friendzone them essentially and still be able to romance them after an indeterminate amount of time? For example would Null be able to achieve his Diamond/Adamantium V Card and then able to romance every single love interest added by that point in chapter 5/6 all at once? How about when Null simply remains casual acquaintances with the love interests compared to when he maxes out everyone at 1000 Love and Trust and is basically "The One That Got Away™"? Or are there certain romance cutoff points for certain/all the love interests?

Would the different combinations of these relationships be reflected in normal interactions and perhaps even the main plot further on? What happens in the often discussed scenario of "Emma Frost vs The World (of Love Interests)?

And last but not least, is the Petname system one where the player can type in whatever they want but certains words like "Daddy" and "Babygirl" are detected and thus certain unique dialogues happen due to them? Sorry if this is one of those things that can be easily checked by playing through the game but I currently leaning towards waiting for v1.0 or even v1.1 before starting my first ever playthrough. And searching through the thread with "petname" and "pet name" don't yield any concrete answers.
 
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This was brought up but also shut down.

The girls are being updated so that some won't inherently be attracted to Null or that their thirst will reign in if you don't show interest.

Kinda want to avoid having it feel like they're in constant heat lol
I believe the most recent art preview showing her is pretty close to a final design as we're gonna get.

Who knows what may be in the ShinyCut or what modders will do.


She's ironically the most sexually repressed... Yes I'm saying that the girl who wants to but can't touch people is less wound up.

Rogue's the kind of girl to go to town on herself if she's frustrated.

Jean's too busy trying to have a perfect GPA. The fact that she puts out the fastest and is the most "I know what I want and you're going to provide it" in attitude is very much intentional of her feeling like she wasted 4 years of college by not "experimenting."

She very much is making up for lost time.


Never say never.



This guy gets it.


Modders are free to have fun. Pregnancy sadly needs to be put on hold for post game due to all the literal and emotional gut punches.


I mean did you live through the mid 2000s?


Oh... Well dang... The thing is that Null is a full time member of the X-Men come chapter 2...


Earth 69 is in the same sphere as 616. Not whatever number that I don't care enough about Ultimates enough to remember is.


There's content for that. Name Null "Daddy" and/or Jean "Baby Girl".


Dude it'd be 2 L33T slurs AND a reference to Lockhead. Get your shit together.
How old is Jean at the start anyway? 23/24 while Null is 18?

Dang, so Null gets fast tracked into the official X Men Team after Thunderbird's incredibly stupid death?
 

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Dude, you know you can edit posts to add more points of discussion, instead of making more posts, right?
 

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Dude, you know you can edit posts to add more points of discussion, instead of making more posts, right?
Yeah sorry about that. Was on the can while making the latter post so got a bit lazy and just hit reply and typed away.
 

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I've had a couple of beers and my creative juices are flowing so here's another idea: make it so Storm only ever orders fried chicken on restaurant date, never mention it anywhere in-game or outside of it and see how long it takes someone to notice
Fried chicken and rice.
That funny
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Is the current plan regarding the platonic relationships with the love interests for the foreseeable future to be where Null can still max out their Love and Trust, friendzone them essentially and still be able to romance them after an indeterminate amount of time? For example would Null be able to achieve his Diamond/Adamantium V Card and then able to romance every single love interest added by that point in chapter 5/6 all at once? How about when Null simply remains casual acquaintances with the love interests compared to when he maxes out everyone at 1000 Love and Trust and is basically "The One That Got Away™"? Or are there certain romance cutoff points for certain/all the love interests?
To my knowledge, Null will never be cut off of pursuing a girl. There would likely be different variance in dialogue depending when you pursue them.

I don't know much of what the plan is in regards to what if you max out love but I'd assume our team would have some pining going on.

Would the different combinations of these relationships be reflected in normal interactions and perhaps even the main plot further on? What happens in the often discussed scenario of "Emma Frost vs The World (of Love Interests)?
There is confirmed to be unique interactions depending on combination.

Kitty really fucking hates Emma and in some timelines takes pleasure in killing her.

Emma and Jean are both omega level telepaths and that has had them bicker over who top bitch is in that regard as until Emma, Jean was the only other person than Xavier to be able to use Cerebro. So you can expect the other to try and one up each other in a possible relationship.

Especially as I stated in another comment, Jean already tries to prove she's top bitch if you date all three of the girls in chapter 1.

And last but not least, is the Petname system one where the player can type in whatever they want but certains words like "Daddy" and "Babygirl" are detected and thus certain unique dialogues happen due to them?
Yes. I don't know all of them and I don't want to spoil what I do know. I only use that example as it's really fucking funny when people doubt me.

How old is Jean at the start anyway?
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Some folk say she's fine for an African-American woman, others say weird comments like this.
I'm fine with both but I know pretty well the original lore about Ororo, so I support the wide Irish hips as a worthy mix during the XIX century or before.
She is of Black american descent, grow from small child in Cairo slums until she moved to Kenia during her early teens to become "the goddess". And there Xavier found her.
She is the same age of Jean (at most a couple of years older), surely more mature and experienced than the original X-men.
 

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She is the same age of Jean (at most a couple of years older), surely more mature and experienced than the original X-men.
She's in her 30s on Earth 69 because Ron didn't want 3 chapters of characters being 18-21

Character Ages as of Chapter 1
Null: 18
Kurt: 18
Colossus: 19
Rogue: 19
X-23: 18
Jean: 21
Kitty: 17
Dazzler: 18
Storm: 33
Emma: [Redacted] (Visibly Late 20s)
 
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