Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[Krazzt]

Though there are other supers in polycule relationships. The only one that writers will permit me to mention is that Peter Parker/Spider-Man is in one.

Man, Parker just can't catch a break even in your universe. Knowing his luck it will probably end like in that issue where he gets yelled at by Michelle and Norah, MJ leaving and his clothing and other stuff randomly catching fire.

 

[Tommy7358]

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We really need a backside pose

Hey, there's the three bits of masking tape as an outfit I was talking about.

It's not a one to one comparison but it's close enough. On Earth-69 gay marriage was enacted in the 90s due to conservative failure to stop the sexual revolution of the 70s and 80s, horny meta humans tend to throw a monkey wrench in these kinds of things.

Though there are other supers in polycule relationships. The only one that writers will permit me to mention is that Peter Parker/Spider-Man is in one.


I offer my expertise where I can. I am currently unlicensed though so I can only offer academic advice, not practical.

Which is fine since I'm shit at writing dialogue.


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I mean the plot has them become friends.


Big Sis Jean will not approve of you dating hussies distracting you from your studies.

Yeah, that's why I put in "roughly" as it is a close enough approximation for someone to understand how Polycules/Polygamy/Harems/Whatevers are viewed.

If I'm recalling correctly, wasn't She-Hulk mentioned as being in one too? Or was that just a fan theory which sounds likely considering She-Hulk's personality?


I'm sure your ouput is valuable to the writers to ensure the Love Interests' Quirks and psychological issues get depicted as realistically as it can be in a superhero alternative universe porn game.


While you're watching in horror after coming back to a probable shitshow you have to manage, I'm just sitting at the counter watching the mayhem unfold alongside The_Man_With_No_Name and pepplez; Faceless is there pouring gasoline on the fire.


You're ignoring the elephant in the room context that Rogue in this scenario has snapped and has become a full-blown Yandere though.


Just imagine the look on Jean's face (and everyone else to be honest) when Null has high Love and high Trust with everyone but decides to stay platonic until Chapter 3 or 4 where Null decides to go the monogamy route with only Emma Frost. *Unless Big Sis Jean is the one who gets some of that sweet, sweet Lil' Bro goodness first but even then, Emma Frost...

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Do wish we get to see Null and Spider-Man meet. Parker has worked with pretty much everyone. Not sure if he ran into the X-Men much during the game's time though.

There were whispers and musings about how Null could become roommates with Spidey in a potential TNH sequel so I'd imagine we'll at least have some interactions with Spiderman in The Null Hypothesis.

Told y'all so, it's like reading Wikipedia about how ancient Rome was established lmao
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Ps.: just f#cking with you Tommy no hard feelings man keep up!

Leathermax said something similar before about how he feels like a part of history when someone (me) decides to become a thread archeologist and go through hundreds of pages worth of threads.

I also feel like I'm starting to become a competitor to Boots in terms of lengthy ass reply posts.

Tommy7358, you might as well link this Boots post and the summary I made summarizing forum/discord posts a bit back along with the confirmation that it isn't off base. Don't know if you got any of the discord loredump/faq Boots posts. I screenshoted some of them and some other people copy-pasted others.

Good point, I've now updated the All-In-Post with both your summary post and Boots's confirmation post; and for good measure I've copy and pasted the entirety of TNH's Discord "Earth-69 Q&A" as well. I do remember snippets of Buttholder talking about Emma Frost but it probably shouldn't be in the All-In-One Post, at least for now.

The little deviant that he is, because one wasn't enough, he had to get his web over a group of fine upstanding New York women.
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The funny part is that it's likely known that Spider-Man and Peter Parker are both poly and JJ hasn't connected the dots.

Speaking of Triple J, does he mainly hate Spiderman because he's hiding his identity and The Man With Three Js hates people who do so because his first wife got killed by a masked hitman alongside some combination of greed or is that just true in some alternative timelines and not the main one?

Man, Parker just can't catch a break even in your universe. Knowing his luck it will probably end like in that issue where he gets yelled at by Michelle and Norah, MJ leaving and his clothing and other stuff randomly catching fire.

This post by TMWNN links a couple of Boots's posts that discuss Spiderman's Polycule a bit; mainly about Black Cat though there is mention of other potential Love Interests of Spidey like Betty Brant and Liz Allan. And there's no reason to believe the dev team will treat Spiderman as a punching bag because they have said a lot of people on the team like him.

 

[Krazzt]

mainly about Black Cat though there is mention of other potential Love Interests of Spidey like Betty Brant and Liz Allan

Sounds kind of gay. I know if Peter will actually get together with MJ for good (or will continue to have this "polycule" thingy), then Felicia will need someone too, but not sure I want to have her as a donu(ll)t steel guy. I would rather play as Parker instead.

 

[Tommy7358]

Sounds kind of gay. I know if Peter will actually get together with MJ for good (or will continue to have this "polycule" thingy), then Felicia will need someone too, but not sure I want to have her as a donu(ll)t steel guy. I would rather play as Parker instead.

Not sure what you mean by "a donu(ll)t steel guy", "do not steal guy"? Also, it has been stated a few times that the writers only want to write one protagonist per setting and frankly I very much prefer this approach too.

Because there's probably no need to change the protagonist for every game in the same setting because one of the big draws of TNH in my opinion is the self-insert power fantasy of having your own character in a comic faithful X-Men/Marvel universe and deciding what their personality and choices will be; and surely there's plenty of enough material and stories to tell about Null on Earth-69 right?

Boots has also said that the head writer (who is Maddeninggg if I'm not wrong) made a convincing argument that it'll be much easier on the writers if they continued with Null as the protagonist for any subsequent TNH sequels.

 

[Krazzt]

Not sure what you mean by "a donu(ll)t steel guy", "do not steal guy"?

It's a pun, mate. (ll) forms Null and "donut steel" refers to the fact that he's obviously inspired by RLE's Zero. He also kind of copies other mutants' powers.

the self-insert power fantasy of having your own character in a comic faithful X-Men/Marvel universe and deciding what their personality and choices will be

Well, I'm not really a fan of blantant power fantasies. It feels wrong to be the big dick cheney that gets all the attention. Both RLE and TNH have it, obviously, but you can control it through your actions, thankfully.
Not to mention that the game doesn't really have a lot of choices, really. You mostly choose a girl and an attitude, which will work for a lot of non self-insert characters.
I guess that Felicia/Peter is just too iconic for me, so getting her as a someone other than Parker feels wrong. Yeah, yeah, he has other women in this universe, but still... Don't want to semi cuck ol' Pete, you know?

 

[Tommy7358]

Well, I'm not really a fan of blantant power fantasies. It feels wrong to be the big dick cheney that gets all the attention. Both RLE and TNH have it, obviously, but you can control it through your actions, thankfully.
Not to mention that the game doesn't really have a lot of choices, really. You mostly choose a girl and an attitude, which will work for a lot of non self-insert characters.

Well by power fantasy I meant more having your own character and being able to define their choices and personality.

As for the current lack of choices, I have no doubts that the game will open up in the future. Chapter 1 is the tutorial level/beginning village of the game where the world, the characters, the main plot and other things gets set up and it's not even fully complete yet.

I've also highlighted the metric Jesus ton of writing and seemingly sisyphean task the writers have to deal with as the game progresses here and here at the game's current planned scope and scale so no worries there either.

 

[RandomRandomic]

If I can give my two cents, I kinda hope the Love Interests options stay only on the X-Men side.
We can maybe have other marvel girls in another game, with another customizable protagonist. *wink wink*
Maybe the devs can make like a shared universe with different games covering different sides of marvel in the same style as TNH ya know? *wink wink*

 

[Tommy7358]

If I can give my two cents, I kinda hope the Love Interests options stay only on the X-Men side.
We can maybe have other marvel girls in another game, with another customizable protagonist. *wink wink*
Maybe the devs can make like a shared universe with different games covering different sides of marvel in the same style as TNH ya know? *wink wink*

I've already shared my opinion about it a few posts up so that's where we differ in opinions then; I would much rather Null's story be continued in any hypothetical TNH sequel(s) than have another protagonist set in the same Marvel setting and currently as far as I know the writers think so too. In any case, it is probably far too early to speculate about such things since Chapter 1 isn't fully completed yet.

 

[Krazzt]

In any case, it is probably far too early to speculate about such things since Chapter 1 isn't fully completed yet.

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

 

[armond]

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

The justice of my sperm disagrees

 

[cannavaro99]

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

The only way to make it faster is to send some greens to the development team

 

[Tommy7358]

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

Fair enough, I don't know what will happen in the future; if I did, I'd buy a winning lottery ticket and fully fund the money but alas. Still, I'm not going to worry about things that may or may not happen in the future and just show my enthusiasim and support for the game and donate some money every now and again when I'm able to in the here and now.

As it is the planned scale and scope of TNH is a major reason why I'm so excited for it in the first place. Besides, while unfortunately quite rare to see in porn games, there are those rare few games that manage to be successfully completed after years worth of development and without compromising on the original vision to boot. If the tour de force that is The Last Sovereign can do it after 9 years, there's no reason not to hold out hope that the Null Hypothesis can do so as well.

Plus the dev team planned development in a way that if worse comes to worst then Chapter 1 would be a complete experience on its own.

 

[apyrvalg]

ShinyBoots1993 I have a question about your "grind" post from earlier today

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Are you talking about Love and Trust only? This part is almost trivial by now for me - after several playthroughs I find all convenient ways to do it. But if you want to see all optional events - relationship between girls will bite your ass hard. In the current save I was ready to end summer at the day 2, but to get friendships levels high enough I spent another 10 and I still a little short on friendship points. Kinda feels grindy.

Maybe this 2 parts should be reviewed separately? As in two polls instead of one?

 

[NexivSelecaf]

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

I'm gonna bookmark this post to see if you'll eat crow in the future.

 

[pepplez]

Well, to be brutally honest, I doubt that the game will completed at all. We'll be lucky if 2 chapters will see the light, I think. The topic was made in 2022, so that's three years in the making, yet the first chapter is still not completed. And taking into account your posts, it just doesn't seem plausable that it will ever be completed, the scope is too great.

Even if that were the case, I really enjoyed this game. It even motivated me to look into the ren'py engine (which is simple but very poorly documented) and, in my opinion, is a must play for every X-Men fan (just like RLE), even if it's not finished.

 

[XStarLordX]

Have a look at this Marvel Rivals skin for Psylocke! I believe the shame meter for this skin would be over 1200.

 

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The justice of my sperm disagrees

Bruh tho mine agree with yours

 

[SuperMaxo]

Possible (minor) graphic bug

In season 1 (fall), after you accept to be X-23's friend, she thinks for a few days about what friendship means between a boy and a girl, and if this means Null and her are boyfriend and girlfriend.
Then, one night, she calls Null on the phone and demands to meet him urgently, with questions that only Rogue can answer

Thing is, she comes to Null's room dressed in whatever she was wearing in the previous time period, even if if doesn't stay within the shame parameters