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I guess the most common seen complaint about chapter 1 is how often Null gets bodied. The reason being "He's a lvl 1 noob going up against lvl 99 mafia bosses" makes sense, but you gotta give some Ws to this mf. Folding a small backwater town singlehandedly is cool enough, but if he comes back coughing blood too it will feel closer to a defeat than a win, and add to the trope of this mf being a medicine beta tester. Shonen characters start off small and getting small wins, and when the threat is bigger than they can handle, they either resort to pulling off some bs power up, or being support to some heavy players. Idk I got stuck at Juggernaut. Keep resetting to see if I can beat the mf. :(
 
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I guess the most common seen complaint about chapter 1 is how often Null gets bodied. The reason being "He's a lvl 1 noob going up against lvl 99 mafia bosses" makes sense, but you gotta give some Ws to this mf. Folding a small backwater town singlehandedly is cool enough, but if he comes back coughing blood too it will feel closer to a defeat than a win, and add to the trope of this mf being a medicine beta tester. Shonen characters start off small and getting small wins, and when the threat is bigger than they can handle, they either resort to pulling off some bs power up, or being support to some heavy players. Idk I got stuck at Juggernaut. Keep resetting to see if I can beat the mf. :(
you can't. it's a scripted loss
 

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Well it was posted a while ago on discord and since it wasn't posted here, I decided to post it here

RonChon:wanted an excuse to share some art with y'all, so here are some treats! Patrons with art preview access are getting the uncensored previews of Storm and Dazzler. then we have Laura's reverse cowgirl CG which is almost done with variants and final polishing and will be up for animation shortly, along with accompanying CGs for Rogue and Jean
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Dear lord have mercy, the boy his gonna get is pelvis destroyed!
Also, i really appreciate how in reverse cowgirl you can appreciate how small she actually is.
I reserve commenting on Ororo and Allison until i get to see them uncensored.
the power levels of the things we fight should be better explained to the players.
Giving players a sense of... danger? scale?
Well there is, you guys are missing the trees for the forest.
Shadow king? professor Xavier told you he had to fight that guy himself.
Juggernaut? you meet him and hes beating the snot out of Colossus, whos the biggest MF in school and toying with him.
Sentinels? they barge in through the ceiling, instantly know who is a mutant, and start shooting to kill with all the kids in the mall being unable to do jackshit to them.
All the times that the girls have told Null to stay put, they have been COMPLETELY right, hes way in over his head and does not understand the context of most of the things he ends up facing, that gets students killed all the time in the comics.
So got them all to the max in love and trust how do I just have sex not the anal I've already done that.
Its been talked about multiple times, the girls literally tell you what they want in order to pop their cherries, read.
 
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Couple questions:

1) I've seen a lot of references to Marvel characters that aren't mutants and what their fate is in this universe - is this just gratuitous nerdery/worldbuilding or is the focus of the game intended to expand beyond just the X-men?

2) For chapter 1 the story structure involves slice of life stuff then a major event at the end of the season. Is this the planned structure for the whole game or have you talked about mixing it up more? Say with more regular events that build up on what happened/will happen with the last/next battle, or just dialogues that reference it. Seems like that might be a lot more work though, but I'm asking since some of the comic arcs the game's adapting are more complex than others.

3) Maybe this is spoiler-worthy, but how different is Null's power from Rogue's? At first glance it seems like he has a better version of what she does.

4) What's Null's reputation at the end of Chapter 1, after these various battles? Do other characters know Xavier has a special interest in him?
 

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Maybe youre right yet i cant shake the feeling most of the time he heals super fast like with the 3th fight he got his collar bone and stab wound heal in no time using the same power, so we know he can heal fast and with lauras help it should be even faster, TO ME 6 weeks are way to much taking everything in account. now does this bothers me so much that i cant play the game? no, ofc not. its just odd. thats it guys. the game is a master piece even if i cant fap to it i enjoy every hour ive played.
Fight against the Juggernaut, he got slapped across the room. Injured enough to trigger a heightened healing factor similar to Laura's which is right up there as one of the best in-universe.
Fight against the Sentinels, the guy gets blasted point blank and barely survived. But triggers a field to hampers powers, including his own new healing factor, as well as absorb energy from people in that field.

The answer is right there. His new nullification powers were slowing his healing factor and needed the energy from Laura, Jean and Rogue to keep him going until he healed. Hence the six weeks.
 

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1) I've seen a lot of references to Marvel characters that aren't mutants and what their fate is in this universe - is this just gratuitous nerdery/worldbuilding or is the focus of the game intended to expand beyond just the X-men?
I assume mostly gratuitous nerdery, as is customary for a comicbook universe. but also like... it would be kind of hard or straight up impossible to do an xmen story detached from the other parts of the franchise. Hydra, Shield, Godzilla, the Avengers, all of that is pretty core to the lore.

Huh, I totally forgot that Tony Stark is even talked about during one of the classes.
 
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Couple questions:

1) I've seen a lot of references to Marvel characters that aren't mutants and what their fate is in this universe - is this just gratuitous nerdery/worldbuilding or is the focus of the game intended to expand beyond just the X-men?
Non-dev opinion. Please roll eyes and ignore if you don't care.

I think the decision to have a news app in the phone to set tone of anti-mutant hatred was always going to create the question of "doesn't it look odd if we DON'T also have J. Jonah Jameson calling Spider-Man a menace for what he's doing in New York? This setting is in New York State after all", which, if accepted could in turn could lead to "why is Spider-Man the only non-mutant getting news coverage when he's not the only famous non-mutant?".

I don't think it's intended as remember-berries or pandering so much as trying to strike a balance between preventing hard to ignore omissions without endless scope creep.

2) For chapter 1 the story structure involves slice of life stuff then a major event at the end of the season. Is this the planned structure for the whole game or have you talked about mixing it up more? Say with more regular events that build up on what happened/will happen with the last/next battle, or just dialogues that reference it. Seems like that might be a lot more work though, but I'm asking since some of the comic arcs the game's adapting are more complex than others.
I too would love to hear an answer for this.

3) Maybe this is spoiler-worthy, but how different is Null's power from Rogue's? At first glance it seems like he has a better version of what she does.
Rogue as of C1 has a (IMO) pretty tragic relationship with her mutant ability. First time it manifested someone she really cared about wound up in a coma from touching her alone; and that's not something she's gotten over. Rogue doesn't have "off-switch" control over it and this is something she hasn't keep secret because she doesn't want to endanger others. I think a lot I could say about her power really is just my interpretation/opinion of the depiction of Rogue as a character (her main motivations, values, fears) beyond some of the most consequential facts. I think Rogue in some ways is the opposite of a classic superhero who could be expected in a story to fly in to where there's danger or tragedy and be loved by the masses for saving the day like some big blue boy scout because the strongest emotion her power inspires isn't hope (in the boy scouts world full of open minded people who could be counted on to want to do the right thing and cheer when it happens) but terror or outrage (in a world where getting killed by a mob feels like it's never more than minutes away).

Exactly what Null's ability/abilities is/are more slowly revealed, and again character interpretation applies. But by the facts: at the beginner of the game he doesn't have a power that's so obviously potentially destructive; he's not the easy fit for anti-mutant propaganda of violent threat . At the start he's actually much more like the boy scout. And Rogue learns if she touches Null (when his power is active)... it's fine.

My interpretation is Null and Rogue have almost opposite powers and relationships with their powers (at least at the start).

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Fight against the Juggernaut, he got slapped across the room. Injured enough to trigger a heightened healing factor similar to Laura's which is right up there as one of the best in-universe.
Fight against the Sentinels, the guy gets blasted point blank and barely survived. But triggers a field to hampers powers, including his own new healing factor, as well as absorb energy from people in that field.

The answer is right there. His new nullification powers were slowing his healing factor and needed the energy from Laura, Jean and Rogue to keep him going until he healed. Hence the six weeks.
that is an answer i can live with, thanks.
 

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Those new previews are fire, goddayum. Just for the record, will we be getting the normal cowgirl as well or just reverse? Even if it comes later and not in the same update.
 
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Do not bully Rogue, she needs you to be good to her!
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But someone has to take one for the team, otherwise, how else are we going to know what happens? ...That don't involve data mining, so Kirby, no. Down boy. I'm referring to playing the game conventionally, as usual.

Hey, Incarnation123. Since you think of Rogue as a "walking piece of wood", what happens when you fake having a seizure when she asks you to touch her?
 

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thanks for the info on emma, yet my point its the same. broken ribs take up to 3 months to heal and he was healed in two days, then he got stronger and we can say he now can heal faster than a regular person, and on top of that he used lauras energy and heal factor and it took him 6 weeks to heal some broken bones in his arms? the time its not congruent, and how strong the enemy is, has nothing to do with it. hell its not a big of a deal i guess they need it to change season and use that as an excuse but there is a hole in the plot there to me.



i dont have a problem with him getting fucked up and healing, thats how you get stronger. just like deku goku or NARUTO. im just pointing out that the time its either way to short the first time or too long the second.

btw its not like it is game breaking or something like that just odd...
We have to keep certains things in mind

During the Sentinel event Null's healing factor isn't as prominent because it was fairly new so even if his physical injuries did heal themselves rapidly his body clearly wasn't able to keep up and so it shut itself off , in the Juggernaut encounter he didn't get beaten up as badly so the recovery process was very quick but as time goes on he learns how to control his nullification and healing factors and starts gaining a better understanding of how they actually work through both physical and mental training


For example the Jean encounter in the Chapter 1 Finale , she was about to release a Nuke but Null was not only able to pacify her but also showed a great understanding of how his power actually works beyond the simple nullification of other mutant abilities and as a result not only did he stop her from pretty much destroying that entire island and everything around it but also recovered incerdibly fast

His healing depends very much on the energy being output in his surroundings so towards the end it was a showdown between how much could Jean keep putting out and how much could Null keep on absorbing and as it turns out he can absorb a LOT so much so that he could come back from being turned into bones by simply regenerating , it's pretty fucking insane
 
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