Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[salscou]

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Yeah. It does sound like a nerdy pretentious thing if taken too seriously. Which every "loremaster" I've ever heard of does.

"Reference guy" or something is better.

Its the official court position of Teclis!

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

Its the official court position of Teclis!

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Yeah.A high elf. Makes sense with the whole "pretentious" angle.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Is it the actual Gojira or is it the one that appeared in the old Marvel comics?

Yes.

We're combining the two since that's what Marvel did in later comics.

Frankenstein's Monster is also running around. So is Dracula.

that was the golden era of comics where politics was kept to a minimum and writers just focused on making fun stories

Now hold on a sec-

thats not to say the politics weren't there but it wasn't the hamfisted tumblr fanfic tier slop we get today.

Oh, then yeah. The X-Men specifically were used as political allegory. The Legacy Virus in particular was meant to represent aids. A virus that only attacked mutants, and then it was found out humans were susceptible to it.

Though in today's market if a writer tried to do the legacy virus storyline, they would unironically call it "Super Aids."

artists back then had to do everything by hand and so focused more heavily on using color, negative space, and exaggerated gestures to convey meaning, emotion, and focus readers attention on the right details (picrel)

We brought this philosophy into our production. I rallied hard for chat bubbles so you could see character facial expressions and needing to go from characters to the left for Null's dialogue options would cause your gaze to pan the screen

Ron commissioned extra hand and arm gestures as well as conveying emotion through body language is very important to our storytelling.

Before internet forums were taken over by the exact type of people that ruined comics and created the cancer that is the modern comics industry

#girlbossgatekeep

I think I'd probably be closest, considering I have an insanely good memory for this shit, but 'loremaster' always just sounded like the most pretentious thing ever. I know you need someone who lives and breathes this stuff to keep everything consistent - it used to be an official job position at Lucasfilm when he still owned Star Wars, no idea if the job still exists - but still, just call it 'the go-to guy' or whatever.

To give people perspective, the Holder of Butts and I are the only devs who've been in hours long discord calls trying to make sense of character histories and personalities on Earth 69.

I read from Giant Sixed X-Men to Onslaught. He read from X-Men #1 well into the 2000s and helped Maddening a lot with Jean's adaptation from "The Girl" from a 60s perspective and "The Girl" from a 2000s perspective.

Its the official court position of Teclis!

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Reference Guy Teclis

 

[UnsavouryPursuits]

#girlbossgatekeep

Hey, I swear I remember "gaslight" being a part of this creed too.

 

[salscou]

Reference Guy Teclis

Someone has to keep tabs on how many maidens his brother has bedded over the millenia.

 

[b_m_dodger]

Someone has to keep tabs on how many maidens his brother has bedded over the millenia.

His bro was a huge player when he was young. But then he found love and committed. So just 1 in recent universe time. End Times doesn't count.[/SPOILER]

 

[Buttholder]

To give people perspective, the Holder of Butts and I are the only devs who've been in hours long discord calls trying to make sense of character histories and personalities on Earth 69.

I read from Giant Sixed X-Men to Onslaught. He read from X-Men #1 well into the 2000s and helped Maddening a lot with Jean's adaptation from "The Girl" from a 60s perspective and "The Girl" from a 2000s perspective.

There was one point where, the day after a five-hour conversation, we were discussing something with Mad, and he said 'hey, tell him about that thing we were talking about last night' and I said 'you're going to have to narrow that down a lot. Give me a specific hour or so, at least.'

As for reading the comics, I eventually stopped around 2015 because that period was when the Inhumans were getting pushed to replace the X-Men and that whole period is just a wasteland. I think the Precious Cinnamon Bun that is Ms. Marvel was the only good thing to come out of that entire mess.

I intend to reread the Krakoa stuff at some point, but it means picking up from where I left off and... ohhh boy.

Hey, I swear I remember "gaslight" being a part of this creed too.

Are you sure? That sounds like crazytalk to me. You should go lie down for a bit, nutso.

 

[Knight]

Frankenstein's Monster is also running around. So is Dracula.

So Jubilee is gonna be a vampire then? I would prefer it if she wasn't though. It would be nice if there were some girls who Null wasn't fucking, Nulls harem could use some friends who aren't competing for Nulls dick. Though, Null would need to hide his credit card if Jubilee takes Kitty shopping.... or worse, Emma.

Also, Kurt needs his spicy gf and a non mutant friend would be a nice contrast character for the cast to remind them that despite their powers they are still human on the inside.


Just like it would be nice for Null to have some male friends, it would be nice if there were more interactions with the other students. It doesn't need a lot of art, a bust or two and having them in a group shot CG would help make the games school feel more alive.
I am still waiting for Logan to give Null the dad talk.

#girlbossgatekeep

Not just that but you have sentient cancer like Bendis who take sick pleasure in ruining everything nice.

The entirety of the western entertainment media is run by an unholy cabal of soulless corporate parasites and the bottom feeders of reddit (formerly tumblr); the type of people who thought Concord would be a best seller.
The industry is creatively bankrupt, it's mostly the source material from earlier times that sees much fan excitement. Games like this have better writing than 99% of what marvel is excreating.

It's at the point that they ruined everything and are now going back to past series to retro-actively ruin that too.
The worst part is that there are still talented people in the machine who could fix this, they're just never given the chance to.



I read some of the interviews with the creative team on X-Men 97', there were a few people who were desperately trying to right the ship as activists execs steered in to every iceberg. The fact that the execs were offended at the idea of consulting the source material writers (for certian runs) and mocked one of the creative leads for suggesting it was all I needed to hear.

We are at the point where the people in charge talk shit on Steve Ditko and Jack Kirby as they proudly declare that they have never read any of their work.

 

[Knight]

Are you sure? That sounds like crazytalk to me. You should go lie down for a bit, nutso.

You are joking but I have had to deal with people who routinely do that at work; I quickly learned that I need to record every convo with certain people and CC every email to higher ups; the best is when people get angry at me for doing it, thats when I know what kind person I am dealing with. It's always the most useless people who gaslight the hardest, I found it interesting at first but quickly grew tired of it. I can only imagine how much worse it is in creative feilds.

As for reading the comics, I eventually stopped around 2015 because that period was when the Inhumans were getting pushed to replace the X-Men

I would have stopped a lot sooner, my cutoff would be 2010 at the latest but mid 00's would be better. Rather than going forward I would go further back. Just the 90's would be enough material for several games.

I think the Precious Cinnamon Bun that is Ms. Marvel was the only good thing to come out of that entire mess.

I dropped most Marvel comics before she was a thing, I am fine with kamala khan existing, I am just not calling her Miss Marvel, same way I'm not calling miles Spiderman (who shouldn't exist).

 

[Knight]

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Yeah. It does sound like a nerdy pretentious thing if taken too seriously. Which every "loremaster" I've ever heard of does.

"Reference guy" or something is better.

It is actually an official position on a lot of movies and shows. Sometimes they call it "creative advisor" or something of the like but I do believe they had that as position for the Lord of Rings and Hellboy movies as well. Oh, and as a funny aside there was a rumor that Henry Cavil wanted to work on a War-hammer 40k series and wanted to be listed as Lore Keeper or Brother Librarian in the credits.

 

[FP00]

Without going in to spoiler territory I recommend sticking to comics from mid 80's to early 00's, that was the golden era of comics where politics was kept to a minimum and writers just focused on making fun stories, thats not to say the politics weren't there but it wasn't the hamfisted tumblr fanfic tier slop we get today.
You can find a lot of it uploaded online and it doesn't require a huge time commitment.

I know, read comics online is my go-to source, but the only problem I've been running into is that the version I was reading didn't include the spin-offs that were running at the same time, so I end up missing a lot of details. Got up to 251 of Uncanny X-Men, and this era is particularly hard to keep track of things.

We brought this philosophy into our production. I rallied hard for chat bubbles so you could see character facial expressions and needing to go from characters to the left for Null's dialogue options would cause your gaze to pan the screen

Ron commissioned extra hand and arm gestures as well as conveying emotion through body language is very important to our storytelling.

Looking forward to that, a lot of personality can be conveyed that way, especially through the hand and arm gestures. Also looking forward to the potential through the way it can convey comedy.

Also, Kurt needs his spicy gf and a non mutant friend would be a nice contrast character for the cast to remind them that despite their powers they are still human on the inside.

God, I hope they don't break up here.

Genuinely disliked that writing decision when it happened during the comics.

Just like it would be nice for Null to have some male friends, it would be nice if there were more interactions with the other students. It doesn't need a lot of art, a bust or two and having them in a group shot CG would help make the games school feel more alive.

Scott would be a great friend for Null to have, especially as Null's power would let him at least take off his glasses once in a while without fear, something that he desperately craved in this era of comics.

 

[Knight]

I know, read comics online is my go-to source, but the only problem I've been running into is that the version I was reading didn't include the spin-offs that were running at the same time, so I end up missing a lot of details. Got up to 251 of Uncanny X-Men, and this era is particularly hard to keep track of things.

Don't get too hung up on that, there are points in the stories where things just go off the rails due to too many cooks in the kitchen writer wise. If you feel lost a good place to check the spin-off and parallel story issues is the wiki's, they usually have notes detailing major story events where you can grab the issue number.

God, I hope they don't break up here.
Genuinely disliked that writing decision when it happened during the comics.

Sometimes the shows did a better job of things tbh, as comics go on and switch writers one guy won't like a particular couple and chose to ruin it in the worst way possible ("One more Day" is the classic example of this). I remember how the Avengers T.V show had the best version of Wasp and Antman's relationship whereas it was a trash-fire in the comics. Given that the same writers are gonna work on this until it's finished (hopefully) I don't foresee any nosedives like that.

Scott would be a great friend for Null to have, especially as Null's power would let him at least take off his glasses once in a while without fear, something that he desperately craved in this era of comics.

Might be a bit awkward with Jean, from my experience most women react badly when their current boyfriend ends up being friends with their ex. That being said there are more than a few mutants that would appreciate getting their powers turned off for a few minutes. It would be a nice gesture towards Scott.

My preference would be Deadpool, having someone who can turn off his healing selectively for a bit so he can get cancer treatment would earn Null a favor from a mouthy merc with friends in a lot of weird places, which could make for a fun twist once the Hellfire Club starts making problems. Wade would also be a good connection to Domino and he would reasonably come up when exploring Laura's past.
Also, I want Wade to break the fourth wall and mess with the player a bit for playing a porn game.

 

[salscou]

Might be a bit awkward with Jean, from my experience most women react badly when their current boyfriend ends up being friends with their ex.

Yeah, but it would be hilarius with fully quirked out, thirsty, platonical big sis Jean, imagine her being mads as hell at her two love interests being bros together and ignoring her.

My preference would be Deadpool

I mean, it could happen in the very last chapters, since he popped out in the 90s.

 

[FP00]

So Jubilee is gonna be a vampire then? I would prefer it if she wasn't though.

Because I just thought of the joke.

Never fear, Kitty Pryde, vampire hunter, is here:

But in all fairness to that, I think chapter 5 happens a decade before the events of that vampire arc. Side note is anyone else looking forward to goofball Kitty Pryde the most for chapter 2?

 

[salscou]

Side note is anyone else looking forward to goofball Kitty Pryde the most for chapter 2?

You bet your ass i am, the sheer goofyness that would ensue with Kitty and Kurt would be legendary.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Because I just thought of the joke.

Never fear, Kitty Pryde, vampire hunter, is here:

But in all fairness to that, I think chapter 5 happens a decade before the events of that vampire arc. Side note is anyone else looking forward to goofball Kitty Pryde the most for chapter 2?

Forgive me for snickering at the absurdity of Kitty Pryde, Jewish Poster Girl, who constantly has a star of David necklace visible (because muh diversity), brandishing a Christian religious symbol, namely a golden crucifix, to ward off a vampire. Didn't anyone think to themselves "Hey, wait a minute...if the crucifix works, but the star doesn't..." when they were drawing that? Didn't Kitty herself wonder about it and the implications?

 

[salscou]

Didn't anyone think to themselves "Hey, wait a minute...if the crucifix works, but the star doesn't..." when they were drawing that? Didn't Kitty herself wonder about it and the implications?

Oh no, they actually bring that up, it doesnt work on Dracula precisely because Kitty is just larping and doesnt believe in the cross.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Oh no, they actually bring that up, it doesnt work on Dracula precisely because Kitty is just larping and doesnt believe in the cross.

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Nice that they bring it up I guess (although I suspect it was specifically so they could once again point out that she's Jewish), but the underlying point remains : Why would the crucifix work, when her star doesn't? It's just a religious symbol and presumably works off the wielder's faith rather than the item itself based on what Dracula (if that is him) is saying. The only reason it did anything to him was because it was made from silver. If it had been gold or something else she'd have been screwed.

 

[Kdoenf]

Anyone know how I can get the girls to befriend each other?

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]