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BigAlzBub

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Nah, since you can get them without ever being in a relationship with the girls, it isnt girlfriend locked.
I think it is relationship tied, so when I said girlfriend, I was more thinking girl-who-is-a-friend rather than necessarily being in a relationship.
I think it is probably related to the knowledge of someone's power. For instance when Null had a throw down with the sentinels, he wanted an offensive power, he only knew about Rogue, so he ended up a with a "useless" biological energy drain (yes, he did know about X-23 claws, but that is an obvious physical power, which needs "hardware" that Null lacked, maybe if he develops his power he would be capable of doing these sort of changes, although it would only have been the bone claws not Adamantine as that needed a technological step), had Null been able to copy the power of anyone (female) he had met, he could have copied Storm, I suspect he didn't because he didn't know what Storm could do.
 
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FP00

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Maybe his X-gene seeks to activate only from females in some strange reproductive pattern, Null's powers are going around like the bloodhound gang.
Again, not even the weirdest mutant power.
I think it is probably related to the knowledge of someone's power. For instance when Null had a throw down with the sentinels, he wanted an offensive power, he only knew about Rogue, so he ended up a with a "useless" biological energy drain (yes, he did know about X-23 claws, but that is an obvious physical power, which needs "hardware" that Null lacked, maybe if he develops his power he would be capable of doing these sort of changes, although it would only have been the bone claws not Adamantine as that needed a technological step), had Null been able to copy the power of anyone (female) he had met, he could have copied Storm, I suspect he didn't because he didn't know what Storm could do.
So, a subconscious power manifestation ability based on currently available knowledge? Handy, but the fact that it requires mortal danger to manifest is a pretty big downside, especially as it seems to only manifest after the immediate danger has passed. To use an example, if our reading of Null's power is right, Null would gain the power of flight to at least a limited degree in response to falling at terminal velocity, but only after he hits the ground and if one of his girl friends can fly.

That could have problems, as the caveat is that he needs also to live long enough for the power to manifest.

Why the hell would the Shadow King be interested in a power like that? How would he have even known about it in the first place?
 

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Null would gain the power of flight to at least a limited degree in response to falling at terminal velocity, but only after he hits the ground and if one of his girl friends can fly.
Imagine if Null suddenly popped wings...im sure Piotr and Kurt would have a blast messing with him.

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Imagine if Null suddenly popped wings...im sure Piotr and Kurt would have a blast messing with him.
Considering it is consistently a lesser version, it'd probably just be floating in a semi-controlled direction or like he is in zero gravity, which would make getting stuff off the top shelf easier, but be very easy to mess with.

So Piotr and Kurt would be having fun pushing Null around with a broom, especially if Null can't control it. The question then would be which of the girls would join in the fun, Kitty for sure, but who else?
 

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So, a subconscious power manifestation ability based on currently available knowledge? Handy, but the fact that it requires mortal danger to manifest is a pretty big downside, especially as it seems to only manifest after the immediate danger has passed.
Is that the case? It has been a while since I did the event, so my rememberance may be a bit off, but didn't Null manifest Rogue's power during the Sentinel attack? He didn't get a chance to manifest anything with Juggy because he was biffed real quick, and anyhow was still really new to his powers.
Please correct me if I got this wrong, I really ought to replay it to find out, but given that we are on the cusp of having to do a do over, I'm not going to :p
 

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Imagine if Null suddenly popped wings...
[imagines Null having the Devil Gene and learns various electrics and unlocks his devil form overtime]

[imagines X-Men characters as Tekken characters]

[imagines when X-Men as Tekken characters would throw each other off a cliff]

[imagines Rogue throwing Mystique off a cliff]

[wonders if the Tekken 8 microtransaction store has anything that can have Reina look similar to Rogue]


Null having wings has a surprising amount of potential when you think outside of the Marvel box.

...I should write this down.
 
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FP00

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Is that the case? It has been a while since I did the event, so my rememberance may be a bit off, but didn't Null manifest Rogue's power during the Sentinel attack? He didn't get a chance to manifest anything with Juggy because he was biffed real quick, and anyhow was still really new to his powers.
Please correct me if I got this wrong, I really ought to replay it to find out, but given that we are on the cusp of having to do a do over, I'm not going to :p
I am pretty certain the power manifested after the sentinel shot him, but I could be wrong.

Same boat as you in waiting for the update.
 
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Why the hell would the Shadow King be interested in a power like that? How would he have even known about it in the first place?
MAYBE the shadow king know Null parents bloodline or Null ancestors powers because rarely mutants family have some same kind of powers eg like scotts family having energy base like power and maybe that why the shadow king was surprise about Nulls power cause maybe he was thinking that null powers were like his ancestors eg maybe he was thinking that Null is a powerful psyche. or it could be Null is clone of different powerful mutants DNA combine. but you haves to know nulls background because if i remember correctly in the game null options was either he is worried abut his family or was glad he did not have a family to worry about even if we the players chose the family option it still not clear that if it his real family cause he could be adopted or was switch when he was a baby to hide from powerful people like shadow king anyway this is just my theory
 

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I believe he's the guy writing for Marvel Comics, leaving Null out of the stories.

Considering it is consistently a lesser version
Eh not really?

While I can't, and most certainly wouldn't if I could, confirm just what Null's power and his end game is I will point out something out.

Y'all are looking at Null's abilities as separate. Instead of part of a whole.
 

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It seems the most accurate based on how it went down and how the Shadow King reacted. So that would make it some form of power manifestation/ adaptation ability, but purely reactionary and seemingly requiring existing knowledge of a mutant's power in order to manifest a new power,
I've made detailed posts in this thread about this but the X-gene itself is reactionary. It responds to extreme stress, usually life or death situations where the user will die within a short time frame, though some people have a lower threshold. The way Null's X-gene activated all 3 times isn't uncommon.

The X-gene triggers a hyper evolution effect in response to trauma but the final product is MOSTLY, but not entirely, random; If you tortured someone with fire they may gain the ability to control fire or they could develop fireproof skin.
Also, outside of rare cases like Emma, most people can only activate a full X-gene mutation once per lifetime. Children of mutants can inherit their parents mutation (though many don't) and get a second one.

Once a X-gene is active it matures with user and the mutagenic effect remains active for several years, longer for adolescents, then goes dormant for the rest of the users life. That's why many mutants die instead of getting a second mutation to survive a traumatic event, they used up their mulligan, Null got his mutation recently and is young so he's still in the grey area (Ba dum tss).
Cases like Laura where the child gets an almost exact copy of their parents ability is uncommon outside of genetic tampering, which did happen with Laura.

Why only girlfriends, though? Why not Kurt's power?
Because he's already on a set path.
A good example is Emma again, she has telepathy but after some stressful events develops telekinesis in some continuities. Emma already had psychic potential, with the right push the ability expands.
Null is the same, his power directly interacts with the energies that mutants give off but not their physical characteristics; Laura's claws don't disappear and Kurt doesn't stop being blue but Laura can't regen and Kurt can't teleport.

All the abilities he develops are interlinked with energy manipulation, his drain power takes energy and his regen power requires his own or stolen energy to work. Even his nullification power is a form of energy manipulation, psychics are good examples, Null can nullify psychic energy trying to get in his mind but even while doing so it doesn't turn off the psychics ability being used at range, it is acting on the energy of the mutant not the body.

Null isn't copying or imitating powers, he says it himself "it took INSPIRATION from".
His current mutation is still in it's infancy and is growing based on the necessary response to trauma and the energy of others his bodies energy field has interfaced with, whether to nullify or drain. He nulls or drains, Rouge, Laura, and Jean 99% of the time, their x-gene signatures are most of the energy he has going through him.
 
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And why was the Shadow King so interested in Null? There was no way he could have predicted Null's power or the fact that he was even a mutant in the first place, yet he was right there ready to claim Null if not for the immediate intervention of the X-Men, which is one hell of a lucky coincidence.
That I don't know but my personal speculation is that it's because Null is related to Shaw. Close relatives develop similar X-gene responses. Based on the timeline and source material the crew is working off of (late 80's to early 00's), the Hellfire club should still be headed by Shaw and thus of interest to Shadow King and Farouk. We don't know much about Nulls past, Farouk could have been after him for reasons that had nothing to do with his mutant potential.

Speaking off, @salscou & @ShinyBoots1993 do you have a lore master? or is one of you it? I feel shiny knows the reference material pretty well.
 
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