Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[Poker_king70]

It's that. About Doreen, for some reason Oni really likes her, I don't think she ever won a poll but he put her in the game anyway, which hey, more power to him but a weird pick nonetheless.

Furry, busty, not all that bright, and a prehensile tail. What more do you want in a kink?

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

It's that. About Doreen, for some reason Oni really likes her, I don't think she ever won a poll but he put her in the game anyway, which hey, more power to him but a weird pick nonetheless.

Which I don't understand his design choices for RLE. I've seen his commissioned and personal art of the character... No idea why he didn't go with those designs.

Characters that have never 18 in comics will not be aged up and it won't be used to introduce characters way before they show up in comics, I think those are the 2 caveats.

Basically this.

He actually mellowed out a lot after the 90's...

Fish boy.

What did she ever do to you.

Murder her children. Successfully and attempted.

 

[TeeEight]

If they're over 18 in the comic books at the time of me currently writing this, yes.

Dazz and you cleared up, thanks!

She came out at 16, which Kitty had aged up to by that point.

She's gonna come out at 18 if we include her.

Ahem... Actually...
"Illyana returned to Earth only seconds after Kitty lost her grip on Illyana's arm. Illyana spent years in Limbo while only mere moments elapsed on Earth. She was thirteen, now the same age as Kitty. The two became roommates and grew very close."


Unless you mean in the universe of Earth-TNH, she comes ut at 16 then some shit happens
and she makes her appearance 2 years later in the game and she's 18?

See I've been advocating for the inclusion of the time-traveling X-Men just so it'd be less weird for an 18-year-old Null going around and fucking Kamala.

Wait, I'm lost now...

Is everyone going to be perpetually 18 or whatever age they appear in the game, no matter how much time passes? I mean, honestly just keep aging the characters at this point. Chapter 1, Year 1 (18), Chapter 2, Year 2 (20) that kinda thing... I

Admittedly, despite (or maybe because of it) the fact that time travel is a well known/well used trope in Marvel... I kinda hate it as a plot device... Like... Just considering the paradoxes changing the past creates... The freaking headache of just picturing how your future self could have done something to your past self...

Freaking Cable is awesome but man... How does he still exist even though he keeps changing shit... Sorry, I think its pretty obvious by now that I fucking ramble a lot, sorry dude.

This wouldn't be an issue with Subscribestar but Patreon was still the more viable option. Maybe we'll migrate in the future.

Yee, It's why I thought I'd share the news when i realized Patreon was the only way to support the Dev Team.

You gave headpats and had tea parties. It was fuckin' adorable and wholesome.

Aww that does sound wholesome, that sucks to hear.

Art budget. Backgrounds are expensive and are the primary reason we opened the Patreon.

Oof, yeah I only realized the Art budget might've been why the map is small...

To be fair though, if my count is right, you'll probably have enough room at the girl wing for at least until Chapter... 4... 5? And that's probably a couple of years away if the current Roadmap is any indicator. There's still a lot of work and enough time to save up for a map upgrade, ahaha.

Honestly, given how decent the characters are (and despite what Augustus says and other people, Laura is fiiiine... I mean, Wolverine is 5'3 and played by the amazing Hugh Jackman and nobody noticed... He crouches a lot and is awesome enough that nobody minds that they couldn't find an actual 5'3" actor). I'd say that's money well spent.

Also by the way...

According to the Marvel... Juggernaut is only 6'10 and Colosus is 7'5" so the height is already a bit wonky...

Edit:
Apparently, the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak that Juggy used to own lets him alter his size... That... Makes a lot more sense now why he's massive in Deadpool 2... Plus given the dialogue in the game (Definitely inspired by that movie... Heh)... Why he's so fucking big.

Honestly, I think Laura's height only matters if there's scenes of her fighting or if she's standing right next to someone taller than her.

Height stuff during sex and all that shit can just be dealt with on the writing front.

If it helps, could go the psychological route. She feels tall because her personally makes her come off as tall and menacing, you're not gonna tell the short.

Fish boy.

I don't understand this reference.

Murder her children. Successfully and attempted.

Okay, good point... But counterpoint.
Marvel is really good at never actually killing anyone so...
Besides, didn't Emma like try to murder other people? I mean... I assume anyway... Point is!
I can fix her

 

[buttfan]

Oh, fuck dude. Get to work on that. It's an experience to witness.

The mind is the most important sex organ.
If a woman (or guy) can get in the right frame of mind, an orgasm is easy.
Inversely, in the wrong frame of mind, an orgasm will be impossible; true for both men and women . Many women find it difficult to orgasm because they can't get out of their own heads (and then there is when their partner is just a shitty lover). In reality, it is likely that Jean would have great difficulty reaching orgasm in the early part of the game because of how wound up she is (not saying you should do this, as that would be no fun, just saying reality is a lot harsher). Laura's directness would be a bonus to her... also, she should have a higher default climax limit due to her metabolism... and being generally a horny little thing (a very good thing in my opinion).

Honestly, we're lucky the MC isn't PTSD as then this would not be even remotely a porn game (intimacy of any kind is extremely difficult for those with PTSD). Again, that would be no fun, and reality is harsh.

We're working on it. It was mostly an overreaction to spite some people who wanted us to not only have the mind-breaking of RLE but were harassing us to include some pretty hardcore shit.

I had wondered about that.

Necrophilia was mentioned by more than one person...

Ew.
Ew ew ew!

 

[HBKTheIcon69]

After starting fresh I got all girls dating me, Laura and Jean on Love level, Rogue on relationship part 3...however I'm still on Winter season and Jean's is at partial with the last optional event for consoling her in classroom when her and Xavier are there before class starts yet that hasn't triggered...anyone else get into that slump? As I'd prefer to get the optional quests done on their season etc..

 

[TeeEight]

Ew.
Ew ew ew!

As someone who is all about kinks and shit and believing in "Don't Kinkshame"

I must agree... Ew.

In reality, it is likely that Jean would have great difficulty reaching orgasm in the early part of the game because of how wound up she is (not saying you should do this, as that would be no fun, just saying reality is a lot harsher).

What can I say, I like hard mode and I like realism... Sure yeah, Null is a pornomancer but come on... I want there to be some difficulty that isn't like grind? Or i guess maybe it is kinda grind... I don't know... I guess the fact that when i started playing and learning the sex mechanics, the first two? Three? Times, nobody orgasmed... Just straight up heavy petting.

On my next playthrough, I'm so fixing that now that i know about the Heart and Question mark.

 

[TeeEight]

After starting fresh I got all girls dating me, Laura and Jean on Love level, Rogue on relationship part 3...however I'm still on Winter season and Jean's is at partial with the last optional event for consoling her in classroom when her and Xavier are there before class starts yet that hasn't triggered...anyone else get into that slump? As I'd prefer to get the optional quests done on their season etc..

So make sure you don't progress the story until the Stats are Max and nothing says partially complete. And a bit of the events that trigger requires some finangling... Meaning, just keep playing pretty much. But, I've noticed that by not using the map to move around, the ! appears on the map side.

What do I mean by not using the map to move around? Basically, an example is you leaving the bedroom by using the button to the left to head to the bathroom or going to the Boy's Hallway and then to the Girl's Hallway. I think it 'resets' or 'regenerates' where the women are going when you do it like that.

 

[Maddeninggg]

Wait, I'm lost now...

Is everyone going to be perpetually 18 or whatever age they appear in the game, no matter how much time passes? I

Don't worry, that wasn't shiny saying we're definitely doing time travel. I too am not at all a fan of the time travel trope, and our current plan is for Null and everyone to age normally year by year.

 

[JustCallMeSteve]

I'm all for no kinkshaming, but there is very much a limit to what counts or not and certain 'kinks'/conditions/predilections go beyond that, in my mind. This is not counting things that just make me go: That's weird but you do you.

 

[buttfan]

As someone who is all about kinks and shit and believing in "Don't Kinkshame"

For the most part I will agree, but there are exceptions when they get particularly extreme.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Unless you mean in the universe of Earth-TNH, she comes ut at 16 then some shit happens and she makes her appearance 2 years later in the game and she's 18?

Nah, I just misremembered.

Is everyone going to be perpetually 18 or whatever age they appear in the game, no matter how much time passes?

No. For The Null Hypothesis, the sequels are up for debate, time passes normally. Jean will be 27 by the end of the game's main plot.

Admittedly, despite (or maybe because of it) the fact that time travel is a well known/well used trope in Marvel... I kinda hate it as a plot device... Like... Just considering the paradoxes changing the past creates... The freaking headache of just picturing how your future self could have done something to your past self...

Freaking Cable is awesome but man... How does he still exist even though he keeps changing shit... Sorry, I think its pretty obvious by now that I fucking ramble a lot, sorry dude.

Marvel established one rule that I thought was pretty neat and tied up some loose ends. If your past self travels to your present, you don't remember anything until they go back.

This stops you from acting on future knowledge and keeps the space-time continuum intact.

Oof, yeah I only realized the Art budget might've been why the map is small...

We have the desire to make every part of the mansion you see on the map navigable. Although we have priorities on which parts should be in the game.

Marvel is really good at never actually killing anyone so...

Nope. She's killed some of her children and they've stayed dead.

The myth that no one stays dead in comic books is just that, a myth.

Until Krakoa, the only person that went silly about it was Jean Grey... but she had the excuse of being tied to a being called The Phoenix.

A LOT of mutants had been dead for like 30-40 years until Krakoa revived them.

When someone legitimately dies in comics it's a big deal... that's why what-ifs are so murder happy. Deadpool can kill the Marvel Universe... twice... because none of it bled over into 616.

Besides, didn't Emma like try to murder other people?

Eh not carelessly. Mystique is one of the few murder-happy big names. Most villains are fine with a little collateral but they rarely go out with the intention of stacking up bodies.

Most villains in the Marvel Universe just want money or some power. You can't spend that money or exert that power if everyone's dead.

A good example is when a bunch of villains came out of hiding to help with the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

iirc even the guy literally named Apocalypse took a chill pill and gave peace a chance when Krakoa was set up.

Mystqiue however? She went all machiavellian when people like Magneto, Mr. Sinister, and Sabertooth decided to mostly put their grudges on hold.

Recently they tried to redeem her by saying all her evilness was the result of a botched memory wipe by Xavier. It's as dumb as it sounds.

So make sure you don't progress the story until the Stats are Max and nothing says partially complete. And a bit of the events that trigger requires some finangling... Meaning, just keep playing pretty much. But, I've noticed that by not using the map to move around, the ! appears on the map side.

We're working on this, I promise.

 

[LowLevelLesser]

I remember when Silver Sable died and she stayed dead for over a decade if I remember right before a universe reset brought her back.

Emplate from Generation-X is pretty much an immortal enemy but he can be gotten rid of for however long the writers want, so his existence is "flexible".

 

[buttfan]

Question: Does Laura ever get super horny enough to come molest you as she has threatened, or is that not implemented yet?

If you're gonna have dominant characters, they damn well better be initiating sex!

I also assume in future builds the girls will be more proactive during sex, not just touching themselves, but outright saying "okay, that's enough, give me that dick or I'm going to get upset" if not outright pushing you back and jumping on your bone (or face). Obviously the dominant ones like Laura and Jean will be more likely to do that than Rogue, although even she should be offering verbal clues to let you know she wants something else.

The system for determining when she's getting bored of something is already there, each girl should also have favourite activities (and ones they can learn to love with a little practice), while other things are like "yeah... I let you do that, and it's okay, but it's not something I would go for on my own". These should all be individualized as to what their likes and dislikes are.
Eventually.

For bonus points: while some things should be standard for a character, randomize other things at game start so it's not always the same.

 

[HBKTheIcon69]

Nah, I just misremembered.


No. For The Null Hypothesis, the sequels are up for debate, time passes normally. Jean will be 27 by the end of the game's main plot.


Marvel established one rule that I thought was pretty neat and tied up some loose ends. If your past self travels to your present, you don't remember anything until they go back.

This stops you from acting on future knowledge and keeps the space-time continuum intact.


We have the desire to make every part of the mansion you see on the map navigable. Although we have priorities on which parts should be in the game.


Nope. She's killed some of her children and they've stayed dead.

The myth that no one stays dead in comic books is just that, a myth.

Until Krakoa, the only person that went silly about it was Jean Grey... but she had the excuse of being tied to a being called The Phoenix.

A LOT of mutants had been dead for like 30-40 years until Krakoa revived them.

When someone legitimately dies in comics it's a big deal... that's why what-ifs are so murder happy. Deadpool can kill the Marvel Universe... twice... because none of it bled over into 616.


Eh not carelessly. Mystique is one of the few murder-happy big names. Most villains are fine with a little collateral but they rarely go out with the intention of stacking up bodies.

Most villains in the Marvel Universe just want money or some power. You can't spend that money or exert that power if everyone's dead.

A good example is when a bunch of villains came out of hiding to help with the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

iirc even the guy literally named Apocalypse took a chill pill and gave peace a chance when Krakoa was set up.

Mystqiue however? She went all machiavellian when people like Magneto, Mr. Sinister, and Sabertooth decided to mostly put their grudges on hold.

Recently they tried to redeem her by saying all her evilness was the result of a botched memory wipe by Xavier. It's as dumb as it sounds.


We're working on this, I promise.

I think that occurred on an earlier version with optional quests not triggering thus a tedious grind for trying to get it to as I'm sure that optional quests are meant for the actual season that they're listed for and unable to do once story is progressed to the next season..idk I'm not on the dev staff so the mystery on how stuff is triggered is still there in limbo.

 

[King_In_Yellow]

Question: Does Laura ever get super horny enough to come molest you as she has threatened, or is that not implemented yet?

If you're gonna have dominant characters, they damn well better be initiating sex!

I also assume in future builds the girls will be more proactive during sex, not just touching themselves, but outright saying "okay, that's enough, give me that dick or I'm going to get upset" if not outright pushing you back and jumping on your bone (or face). Obviously the dominant ones like Laura and Jean will be more likely to do that than Rogue, although even she should be offering verbal clues to let you know she wants something else.

The system for determining when she's getting bored of something is already there, each girl should also have favourite activities (and ones they can learn to love with a little practice), while other things are like "yeah... I let you do that, and it's okay, but it's not something I would go for on my own". These should all be individualized as to what their likes and dislikes are.
Eventually.

For bonus points: while some things should be standard for a character, randomize other things at game start so it's not always the same.

This would be amazing if it were implemented it would give an interesting dynamic for the girls
dominant and submissive would have unique interaction during sex

Laura horny

 

[TeeEight]

I'm all for no kinkshaming, but there is very much a limit to what counts or not and certain 'kinks'/conditions/predilections go beyond that, in my mind. This is not counting things that just make me go: That's weird but you do you.

For the most part I will agree, but there are exceptions when they get particularly extreme.

Yee, thus my whole "I agree, Ew"

Don't worry, that wasn't shiny saying we're definitely doing time travel. I too am not at all a fan of the time travel trope, and our current plan is for Null and everyone to age normally year by year.

Awesome

No. For The Null Hypothesis, the sequels are up for debate, time passes normally. Jean will be 27 by the end of the game's main plot.

Sequels?

Marvel established one rule that I thought was pretty neat and tied up some loose ends. If your past self travels to your present, you don't remember anything until they go back.

This stops you from acting on future knowledge and keeps the space-time continuum intact.

Ehhh doesn't stop people like Cable from messing with the past though. I mean it makes sense anyway that the Present Me! Can't know what Past Me! knows.

Like personally? I don't mind knowledge... It's the fact that there are people messing with time... Especially when the multiverse exist... Like how are we still in Earth-616 or Earth-69 if people are going to the past and changing what the future is going to be?

Anyway, stuff like that... It complicates things or at least opens the door to complications. I'm fine with Time Traveler characters by the way, it's plots or events that deal with time travel. I love Cable... Hell, he stayed in the past i think so any changes he does is not going to matter since he's not going back to his 'future'.

The myth that no one stays dead in comic books is just that, a myth.

I'll be honest, that's a surprising hot take... Like... I get maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration to say nobody stays dead but I'm also pretty sure there's only a handful of people who have stayed dead in comics, Marvel or DC...

Elektra (Died 3 times, came back to life 3 times), Captain America (5 times), Nightcrawler (7 times), Mystique (5 times)
Her Kids:
Greydon (Died twice, once to future Mystique fair enough)
Gloria still alive, never died once
Raze (never died but apparently did a kill and replace on Mystique)
Charles Xavier the II (never died)
Rogue (died 3 times, came back 3 times)

But yeah, I'm not sure I get the Mystique hate, especially if we're only using "She kills people" as a reason... Deadpool, Wolverine and Punisher probably have a higher kill count than her.

Hell Sabertooth is worse than her, I'm pretty sure...

I remember when Silver Sable died and she stayed dead for over a decade if I remember right before a universe reset brought her back.

Apparently, that must've not counted... Or it was an alternate version of her.

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We're working on this, I promise.

Sorry wasn't a criticism, I was just trying to help. I didn't mind that it took a bit of work to trigger some scenes, it gave me time to do training, do study, make money. I was already near the end and I didn't mind prolonging the final scenes...

Hell... Technically I've reached the end... Null's finally taken first blood (That achievement is both wrong and SORT OF funny at the same time) I just need to get off my ass and hit 1k stats with Jean and Laura... That or sleep with them already since they've vocally wanted to do it but I decided that Rogue is the first girl and stays the first girl...

 

[Maddeninggg]

Question: Does Laura ever get super horny enough to come molest you as she has threatened, or is that not implemented yet?

Not implemented yet, but we absolutely have plans to expand on this. Expect plenty of random events where Laura acts like she's in heat and it's all your fault.

 

[buttfan]

Another question, this one more technical. I know it belongs on Discord, but I don't have access to it (complicated, Ron Chon and I are working on it).

So... I've been trying to make a quick and dirty little mod to add things to do on the campus grounds and the mall (I'll drop it here if I ever get it to work), but for some damn reason it just will not activate.

I've got the modified version of the process set up, and the override, but... nada.

Any ideas?

init 6:
    python:
   
        config.label_overrides["campus"] = "campus_emod"                    #campus

    # This is a temporary mod until the devs fill this area in themselves

label campus_emod:
    $ door_locked = False
.
.
.

Just had a thought, I really don't need the entire campus process to be changed, just the menu, but I'm unclear on how to override only a menu.

 

[Dazzier31]

What did she ever do to you.

Okay, okay you proven your nerd/geek credentials. Then you went used the perfect image at what you did, fucking awesome hahaha

Ew, Mystique.

And thanks, I made an effort.

Okay, good point... But counterpoint.
Marvel is really good at never actually killing anyone so...
Besides, didn't Emma like try to murder other people? I mean... I assume anyway... Point is!
I can fix her

You cannot.
And the only time I can canonically remember Emma straight up killing was to protect her students when she was the headmaster of a rival school.

As someone who is all about kinks and shit and believing in "Don't Kinkshame"

I must agree... Ew.

I think some people should be kinkshamed tbh, specially those that get off on humiliation.

Marvel established one rule that I thought was pretty neat and tied up some loose ends. If your past self travels to your present, you don't remember anything until they go back.

This stops you from acting on future knowledge and keeps the space-time continuum intact.


Mystqiue however? She went all machiavellian when people like Magneto, Mr. Sinister, and Sabertooth decided to mostly put their grudges on hold.

Some things of note:

Regarding Sabertooth: Hard not to bury the hatchet when he is in The Shadow Realm for 90% of Krakoa.

God let's not do the plot of the past X-men coming forward, that shit was so dumb.

I'll be honest, that's a surprising hot take... Like... I get maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration to say nobody stays dead but I'm also pretty sure there's only a handful of people who have stayed dead in comics, Marvel or DC...

Elektra (Died 3 times, came back to life 3 times), Captain America (5 times), Nightcrawler (7 times), Mystique (5 times)
Her Kids:
Greydon (Died twice, once to future Mystique fair enough)
Gloria still alive, never died once
Raze (never died but apparently did a kill and replace on Mystique)
Charles Xavier the II (never died)
Rogue (died 3 times, came back 3 times)

But yeah, I'm not sure I get the Mystique hate, especially if we're only using "She kills people" as a reason... Deadpool, Wolverine and Punisher probably have a higher kill count than her.

Hell Sabertooth is worse than her, I'm pretty sure...

Some people stay dead, some people don't. Krakoa is the only time where death was in fact an extended vacation.

It's not that Raven kills people that's the problem, Mystique is a very... complicated woman, to put it nicely.

She is the mutant equivalent of a Grand Wizard of the people with the funny hats, she engages in terrorism as a sport, if you wanna mention Graydon you gotta say that she abandoned him at birth when he wasn't a mutant and then comes back to kill him later because to the surprise of nobody he became an anti-mutant activist, Captain Marvel has a blood feud with her and it's very likely to try and kill her on sight for things she has done, has tried to sacrifice kids, etc.

It's not that "She kills people", it's that killing people is the nicest thing she does.

Also, ew, mystique.

And nobody is asking for Sabertooth, so that's moot.

 

[LowLevelLesser]

Ugh, Mystique.