Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]
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Last I checked, yes and perhaps more. Like Rogue doesn't have a lot of conditions (if any. Depending on how one sees somethings), but Laura and Jean will have a few like, having been a few days (I think 3) since x has happened and/or accepted their quirk and/or something similar.
Edit: Just realized I didn't answer the first question. You can go all the way. Though it may not happen until the... 4th? season. But to go all the way, you'll need to commit, being their boyfriend and having them said "I love you" and/or more depending on the character. Until then, it's just things like making out and stuff. Very "I would like to have sex but I'm holding back for the right person." kind of stuff.
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Sharinel
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I thought it was confirmed that the next season was being based on the Dark Phoenix saga? In which case most of the women there weren't involved/created by that time. If they are following the plot it needs to be :-
Kitty
Storm
Polaris
maybe Moira? I can't remember if she was in at that point. Lilandra if they are bringing in the cosmic stuff, but I don't think the queen of an interstellar race would have much time to swan about campus. One of the Imperial Guard?
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Not on my part, mainly because none of the characters in that run (Kitty, Emma Frost and Armour) are in the game, and Mad doesn't read the comics, preferring to have Shiny and myself act as a buffer/filter.
Glad you approve! In my mind I always figured she'd like the stuff you could dance to more than the heavy, heavy stuff that sounds like a sequencer falling into a bin of Einstürzende Neubauten demos. Not that it's not in her playlists, but it's not the sort of thing you listen to while studying (unless you're studying mortuary science, like one guy I used to know). It's always a minefield when it comes to attributing musical taste to characters - done well, it adds dimensions to their personality and makes them feel more real, done poorly, well, 'Harry Potter discovers My Chemical Romance' is a joke and a cliche for a reason.
And you all joke, but we in the dev team have barely restrained ourselves from putting soundclips from DMC into the minigame.
Maybe next April...
I think the most that has currently been discussed is a possible collectable of her being a centerfold.
I want to bring attention to the "depending on the character."
There will likely be girls who will have sex without requesting commitment. Though they'll likely refuse to be your girlfriend or even kiss. You'll likely be free to bang them in the first season and then forget about them if that's your thing.
Despite the first set of girls, we very much want to explore different kinds of relationships.
There are a lot of girls who would initially just want Null for a fun time and nothing more. Be it life constraints, personality, or just the time and place being fitting.
I can think of one girl whose entire story would be a mostly platonic form of love. Even if you convince her to be exclusive.
She can already choke you out. When we add girl on top animations we have plenty of fun ideas.
There's a few others that show up but I don't want to name drop them in fear of confusing people.
Though there's a lot of people who want to give Havok the middle finger.
That's a very limited set of girls for the saga that also introduces Dazzler and Emma Frost.
I do want to confuse people and it's me, I am the one that wants to give Havok the middle finger.
About the whole "having to ask permission during sex" thing, we could solve most of it by having the girls make requests /demands on their own. Hell even take the initiative and make you do the action they want (looking at you Laura).
buttfan
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This is very much desired, and indicated as planned. But as Shiny has pointed out several times, despite appearances to the contrary, this is only the fourth major release of the development version of the game, and it is still early in development.
Ironically despite the apparent level the game is currently at (due to good art and writing) there will appear to be little movement in development of the game as all the planned updates are only system and art updates, no real story additions (except as related to adding new functions), and no new girls. At the rate they are going - and remember I am merely a supporter, I am not on the dev team so this is only my opinion - I wouldn't expect to see Chapter Two before sometime in 2025.
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So you think they will need more than 10 years,maybe even 15 to complete the game?
The writing never stopped
The point of these updates is that they're a one time thing. Ron won't need to learn how he wants to animate again. Won't need to recreate the clothe-coloring, the ui, the friendship system, the quirk system. Won't need to redo the artwork to a new style.
The only limiter is the art. That's the bottleneck once all this is done. It took 7 or so months for the 0.2 girls and sex poses. They'll be done redoing it by september at the latest (sooner if budget increases) That's 3 girls done twice + all the new coding.
I'm thinking 3 girls in less than a year. Max 5 more years to get to 15 main girls.
I'm okay with this since it means the team is in it for the long haul instead of a short burst
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I can confirm we're still hard at work writing new scenes and content. Personally, I've been writing pretty steadily since about June/July last year, with the odd break while we wait for coding or assets to be done - hell, I just submitted a couple of new bits yesterday, if anyone's interested, and I still have stuff waiting to be added in general. And even then, when we've been waiting, we've been bouncing ideas around or discussing plans for the future, so it's not like we've been resting on our laurels at any point.
To put our cards on the table, right now, the major bottleneck, as mentioned, is art. It'd probably surprise people to find out the number of ideas we have planned, and ready to be written up, just waiting on things like backgrounds for new areas of the school, we've definitely mentioned that in the past. These things will make it into the game one way or another, it's purely a matter of when. It sucks that we're beholden to that, but that's the basic fact of the matter. In addition, the other big reason we're taking so long with this first chapter, once again, is so we can shore everything up for later releases. We won't have to redo all the art assets for Live2D, for example, we won't have to overhaul the friendship mechanics or the sex minigames because they'll all be in place for future updates. In future, unless anything comes up, story and character updates should be more frequent.
As for the long-term timeframe, obviously, I'm not about to give all our long-term plans out, and I'm absolutely not going to make statements like 'Chapter One will be complete by [insert date here]', but we are have definite plans and we're working to get chapter one finished as soon as is possible - it's not going to happen immediately, but it's going to happen, just give us time to work on it. And - once again - remember that we're still in Alpha, we've barely begun in the grand scheme of things.
Past that, we'll burn that bridge when we get to it. More girls means more updates, means more stuff in general, and if we get the support, either via Patreon or word of mouth, we'll be able to get to those quicker. I get how some of you may be frustrated, wanting to know what happens next, but I promise you we are working on it. We want to be the wait between Infinity War and Endgame, not A Dance With Dragons and The Winds of Winter.
Besides, some of the stuff I wish I could tell you about, I know for an absolute goddamn fact, none of you will see coming, and I want to get there just for the reactions alone.
To put our cards on the table, right now, the major bottleneck, as mentioned, is art. It'd probably surprise people to find out the number of ideas we have planned, and ready to be written up, just waiting on things like backgrounds for new areas of the school, we've definitely mentioned that in the past. These things will make it into the game one way or another, it's purely a matter of when. It sucks that we're beholden to that, but that's the basic fact of the matter. In addition, the other big reason we're taking so long with this first chapter, once again, is so we can shore everything up for later releases. We won't have to redo all the art assets for Live2D, for example, we won't have to overhaul the friendship mechanics or the sex minigames because they'll all be in place for future updates. In future, unless anything comes up, story and character updates should be more frequent.
As for the long-term timeframe, obviously, I'm not about to give all our long-term plans out, and I'm absolutely not going to make statements like 'Chapter One will be complete by [insert date here]', but we are have definite plans and we're working to get chapter one finished as soon as is possible - it's not going to happen immediately, but it's going to happen, just give us time to work on it. And - once again - remember that we're still in Alpha, we've barely begun in the grand scheme of things.
Past that, we'll burn that bridge when we get to it. More girls means more updates, means more stuff in general, and if we get the support, either via Patreon or word of mouth, we'll be able to get to those quicker. I get how some of you may be frustrated, wanting to know what happens next, but I promise you we are working on it. We want to be the wait between Infinity War and Endgame, not A Dance With Dragons and The Winds of Winter.
Besides, some of the stuff I wish I could tell you about, I know for an absolute goddamn fact, none of you will see coming, and I want to get there just for the reactions alone.
I've said we've been in beta more than once but considering we're still introducing core features and systems, I'm gonna backtrack and state that yeah we're still in alpha.
As explained by others, we want to make sure that the core experience if refined. Y'all complaining about grind bugged dating mechanics want us to just move on and throw in more equally bugged girls?
As Crichton said, once Ron figures something out and has it programmed in then we won't have to worry about it in the future. It'd just be plugging in the art and the writing with all the mechanics and systems already there.
With the way that we're handling it, chapters 2 to 5 would be 99% story and content updates because we spent the time to set the framework and core systems up first while letting you guys play around with what we have currently.
As explained by others, we want to make sure that the core experience if refined. Y'all complaining about grind bugged dating mechanics want us to just move on and throw in more equally bugged girls?
As Crichton said, once Ron figures something out and has it programmed in then we won't have to worry about it in the future. It'd just be plugging in the art and the writing with all the mechanics and systems already there.
With the way that we're handling it, chapters 2 to 5 would be 99% story and content updates because we spent the time to set the framework and core systems up first while letting you guys play around with what we have currently.
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No.
The entire point of what they are doing is to get all the functionality in place before they continue, this will actually make for a shorter development cycle. Plus, it allows the art bottleneck to open up a little.
Take the problems that have occurred with the addition of the friendship system, this was added after Chapter 1 was almost finished and has created multiple bugs and unforeseen interactions. Now imagine they added chapter 2 first, they would have more fixes to make, plus when they add another function - and many remain - they would have to go back and redo parts of both chapter 1 and 2, and any other chapters they have done in the meantime each time, adding to the complexity of adding a function, and creating a multitude of bugs each time.
This process is better. It has a longer front end to get all the functions in place, but once they are in place each new chapter can be written with all the functions in place, and this should reduce the bugs as well (there will be bugs, it's programming, all one can do is minimize them). So this method will actually will proceed faster than the haphazard method of shoehorning things in after the fact.
This makes sense, and is still probably slowed due to art limitations. With a larger budget I wouldn't be surprised if each subsequent chapter could be done in 6 months.
All the goal of my original statement was meant to do was to set some realistic expectations on what is currently the state of the game - based entirely on what has been said previously on this forum.
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I'm gonna add to this to provide some broader context. The standard for software development these days is called "agile development". In agile development, the goal is to make a "minimum viable product" (usually shortened to MVP). What defines a MVP can differ from company to company, product to product. But generally, it's considered something that brings marketable value to customers. But, as you can imagine, just because something is sell-able, doesn't mean it was built well or will last. Thus, also in agile development is the idea of "technical debt". Ideally, you want no technical debt as you reach a MVP, but often that's not the case considering deadlines, politics, technology, customer/stakeholder pressure, etc. etc. Sometimes it's better to get out that works *for now* than it is to take forever to craft the perfect solution. That something that works for now (and other things like it) is what's called "technical debt". But the trade off to that is that you'll need to go back and fix the *for now* solution to an actually good and solid one. And, while resolving technical debt is absolutely necessary and critical for a long and lasting or even stable product/program/app/whatever, it is considered "not sexy" as the customers and/or stakeholders will see no little no change on their side, making them think that, all this time, the programmers have been slacking off or not doing their jobs. (Apparently, this was a pretty common complaint in the past. Well, as it was taught to me by my professors in college.)
There are horror stories in tech of technical debt. And I do mean horror. As in, someone died. And while someone's death is not the norm, dealing with technical debt is VERY important.
What buttfan is describing here is exactly that. All this might take time and, yes, it might be frustrating to see no new content or gameplay. But if you want a good and lasting game beyond what you see now, it NEEDS to be done.