Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[ronchonbon]

I don't know if it's just an issue with my computer or my save file, but these last couple updates seem to have made the game way more memory-intensive. My laptop sounds like a jet engine as soon as I boot up the game and crashes are a given after a few minutes of play, especially if I'm entering a room with more than one girl in it or when a cutscene starts.
Would starting a new save fix these memory issues? Or do I just need to get a better machine?

All the new wardrobe additions are very nice though, and I can't wait for all the sex scenes to get the updated artwork.

How much VRAM do you have? It actually is possible that a new save might fix some of the memory issues depending on how old the save is, but if the issue is that the image cache is too big for your GPU then there might not be a way around it

I've tried a bunch of things to optimize the game, but the main bottleneck I'm hitting right now is that Live2D requests that Ren'Py load in all of a model's images every time the model is shown. eg. Rogue has like 46 images because of all the clothing items, and they aren't that small

I've thought about trying to modify Ren'Py to check if a model's image is actually going to be used before loading, but it's not a trivial check and has some downstream consequences that I haven't felt like messing with yet

open to suggestions. right now I think something like 4 GB of VRAM is required to play the game, but even that might be pushing it

 

[mypossiblepasts]

right now I think something like 4 GB of VRAM

Huh? What do you mean?
I was about to back up UnsavouryPursuits on how I too see a significant change in performance.
But then you scared me with this comment so I quickly downloaded 0.5 and loaded a save.
It is totally playable with my 1GB vRAM.
Are you sure you are launching TNH with GPU UnsavouryPursuits ?
Although yeah, every time a character enters or leaves scene it lags game for a <1sec, which is noticable mostly when someone leaves or the scene is room change.
My first guess - check if you didn't overdone the optimalistation, maybe some check if the removal is actually required? Or lag it to the next loading part, so the amount of "loading" phases gets cut /2.

But other than those mini lags and more lags when using skip, I had no issues in game or sex scene with Jean. (don't have access to other ones so I can't try).


Aaaand since I am already here - let's do the uusual session of sharing my issues:

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[talbotage]

can we have sex with more then one girl at the time?

 

[Crichton1]

can we have sex with more then one girl at the time?

not yet

 

[Maddeninggg]

can we have sex with more then one girl at the time?

Not sure if you mean threesomes and stuff but no threesomes yet. You can have sex with all 3 current girls individually at the moment.

 

[fbashar]

Certain eyebrow movements on the girls seem to be linked to player skin color adjustments. Made MC's skin a little greener and then Rogue and Laura's eyebrows (and a little of the surrounding skin) went green during certain facial movements. Upped the red on my skin and their eyebrows went red too.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

i really want to see domino in this game

She's on the list of potential inclusions.

storm anime version

I googled this and dang is she a cutie. I'm gonna suggest the outfit, hair, and make up to the dev team.

That's some good Storm. Her nipples look a little small and a little high though.

Not meant to be seen yet!

Thanks for reminding me of that sweet sweet feeling of p<=0.05

I hate you.

any female on male rimming planned?

Unlikely.

Really need a big tiddy Emma Fros

She's on the list of potential inclusions.

with a mommy kink.

Not sure if this will be her "quirk" if we include here.

10/10 update since I finally got my favorite Rogue outfit in the game now.

View attachment 3717863

I'm stealing this for the discord.

Kitty Pryde

She's on the list of potential inclusions.

The current one isn´t bad at all but it kinda makes her seem older imo.

That's because she is older. Some of the dev team wanted her to be in her mid to late 30s.

the shame system needs a lot of polishing

Hard agree on this.

We're aware. It's on our to do list. Reminder to everyone that we're still in EARLY development.

Pretty art should not have you think a game is anywhere near done.

WHY IS LAURA DRESSED LIKE THE LORD OF THE LOCKER ROOM

I have no idea what this means.

girls that aren't even remotely tied to the X-Men franchise.

I'm perpetually confused as to why half the cast of Evolution isn't in the Evolution game.

Words to live by

Listen to them. Kurt knows the way to win girls' hearts!

but maybe it would be a good idea to have a dropdown menu with the harstyles, shirts, shoes, whatever

I'll throw this over to the devs for consideration.

did I insult the devs?

You know what you did...

Hair growth system back wen?

I don't recall it being removed.

Wardrobe movement and dialog looks like deprecated feature.

It'll be added back in time.

Still no way to try clothes in shops.

Taking girls shopping for clothes was one of my favorite things in RLE.

We're still in development so don't take the absence of something as it never going to be there.

Would starting a new save fix these memory issues?

I'm not even a tech person and I know that it'd help at least little bit.

All the girls have their set quirks (2 each)

This may change but we really want to get the finale of chapter 1 done.

there really isn't a way to cancel

I'll ask if this is possible to include.

the encouragement of said quirks can only happen at specific times/events that are not repeatable.

Dev chat said they'd let you alter some stuff. Try talking to the girls.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Certain eyebrow movements on the girls seem to be linked to player skin color adjustments. Made MC's skin a little greener and then Rogue and Laura's eyebrows (and a little of the surrounding skin) went green during certain facial movements. Upped the red on my skin and their eyebrows went red too. View attachment 3722086

Jaysus. I... don't know how that's possible. I'll bring it to the dev team's attention.

 

[espguy]

Can you have open relationships or become friends with benefits instead of dating?

 

[Maddeninggg]

Can you have open relationships or become friends with benefits instead of dating?

You can have multiple girlfriends at once, but it takes some effort. As of chapter 1, none of the girls are willing to have sex without a relationship, but you can do other stuff with them.

 

[ddtmm]

new update lfgo brooooooooos!

 

[Yolda]

If you finish the first "Dating" quest, is there a follow up or do I just have to stumble upon the next events?
(Or did I break the game? ^^)

 

[Mark17]

Android??

 

[ddtmm]

Android??

yes, it's listed under the download section

 

[Mark17]

yes, it's listed under the download section

Thx

 

[Crichton1]

If you finish the first "Dating" quest, is there a follow up or do I just have to stumble upon the next events?
(Or did I break the game? ^^)

Sleep in your room alone. I thought I broke it too for awhile. Then got rapid fire events by sleeping alone.

 

[Grime090]

how do i get past level 5 did i break the game and get stuck there or is that just the cap for now??? Also how do i get the option for sex for rouge and laura

 

[sleepingkirby]

Dev chat said they'd let you alter some stuff. Try talking to the girls.

Sorry, I was trying to not get too detailed/technical. What I mean is, there are checks in game to list the quirk in the character's bio. That are checking against numbers of said quirk. However, there are quirks whose number can ONLY be updated by one off events at this time. The one I'm thinking of is Rogue's masochism.

./characters/Rogue/events/relationship/quirk.rpy:697:                    $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./characters/Rogue/events/relationship/quirk.rpy:733:                    $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./characters/Rogue/events/relationship/boyfriend.rpy:618:                $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./characters/Rogue/events/relationship/enjoying.rpy:274:                $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./characters/Rogue/events/dates/first_date.rpy:766:                $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./characters/Rogue/events/studying/chapter_one/season_one/study_sessions.rpy:63:                $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./scripts/events/chapter_one/day_two.rpy:556:            $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")
./scripts/events/chapter_one/Sentinel_attack.rpy:1270:                $ Rogue.History.update("masochism_encouraged")

In the above list, the updates in quirk.rpy is under "Rogue_penultimate_penultimate_quirk", which is a one time event. boyfriend.rpy is the event where you two become boyfriend/girlfriend, which is one-time. enjoying.rpy is the one time event where she says she's enjoying being in a relationship with you. The remainder are self-explanatory for which one time event they are.

So, if you've finished the content and then got into 0.5a, you can't increase the count for masochism_encouraged, in this iteration of the game, unless you re-start the game.

That's what I was trying to say.

 

[JMAH1R30]

I would say that it may be easier to just start over again (or at least start from an old save (where you are only dating Rouge)).

Also, you do not have to monitor your love/trust points (like that other guy said), all you have to do is make sure you tell the other two girls that you "just want to be stay friends" until you can convince Rouge to go poly (then talk to the 2nd girl you want to date and there should be an option like "I want to be more than just friends" (then finish the 2nd girl's date quest convince her to go poly and bring in the 3rd girl)).

By the way, the girls have better dialogue in some of the season transition scenes if you have high love/trust points with the girls, and if they are friends with each other (go swimming with all three of the girls to raise their friendships).

Actually technically rogue only gets mad when you're in an official relationship with her. Feel free to date all the girls at once. Though after rogue asks you to be her boyfriend, whenever the girls ask you out, don't be a dick, just say you can't and that's that, raise their affection via gifts and compliments. once rogues is high enough and she is best friends with the other girls or one of the girls, ask her about other girls and she will say yes.

 

[sleepingkirby]

Actually technically rogue only gets mad when you're in an official relationship with her. Feel free to date all the girls at once. Though after rogue asks you to be her boyfriend, whenever the girls ask you out, don't be a dick, just say you can't and that's that, raise their affection via gifts and compliments. once rogues is high enough and she is best friends with the other girls or one of the girls, ask her about other girls and she will say yes.

I know in v0.4a, even if you're not in an official relationship yet, if you've flirted with someone "in front" of Rogue (as in, she doesn't have to be on screen but she is in the same room) that gets logged as cheating which won't go into affect until AFTER you've gotten into a relationship with her and after she's agreed to being poly and you've dated another girl and even told her about it. Did the devs fix that in this version?