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ShinyBoots1993

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Yes to the first but the second would be too much effort vs what's probably needed. Cool if it's in though.

Honestly, just nerf love points halfway between pre beta and beta1 or just lower the low numbers and for trust up it slightly on the lower numbers since that's what's going to be called on when you train with people.
I know you're on the discord. This feedback would be really helpful posted there.
 

The_Man_With_No_Name

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I know you're on the discord. This feedback would be really helpful posted there.
You're right.Sorry, just stream of thoughting it out as we think of it.

But for the above back and forthing that we have been doing, love and trust value math would need to be separated which would be more work added. Outside of that and using shared numbers like now, it will always be a bit of a juggle but is fine enough as is right now .
 
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painlord2k

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Really? Well I'm from Utica and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "gifted youth".
The difference between "youth" and "youngster" is, in the 60s (better in the 50s) you would have used "youth" to refer to all the young men and women as a collective identity (like "the mutants" is a collective identity).
"Youngster" refer to young individuals, not a group identity.

The old school taught gifted young (young mutants) how to control their powers to coexist with not gifted ones. As how coexist with different people.
The current school teach gifted youngster (individual mutants) how to live in human society as individuals.
 

Buttholder

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Sorry in advance if this has been brought up before and I'm dementiaing over it, but is there a chance you could include a "select chapter" option from the main menu for those who'd rather skip over certain things and provide a basic blanket character history as filler for what's not done in previous chapters? Like what Mity has going on in 4ET. This way it won't be that hard to swallow if you fellas have to do another back room adjustment that makes saves incompatible.
It's something we've discussed at great length, along with things like a 'replay scene feature', and yeah, we'll probably wind up doing it down the line. It's part of the reason why stuff like the Datalog exists, and including plot recaps there is an absolute no-brainer.
 

The_Man_With_No_Name

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Ren'Py exception occurs if you try to open Null's database file after the juggernaut attack.

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Posting here as I am not in the Discord.
I posted this on discord for you for the signal boost on this. Pretty sure Riven, one of the coders, saw it so it's known now.

Also, I was mulling over stealing this from Hobocop Harrier du bois who posted this elsewhere, but I like it too much not to post this here.:LOL: I don't think Ronchon will develop for this, but we can dream.
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adanu

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Xp is perfectly balanced when you consider the full scope of the game. There is only so much you can buy so money isn't really a big bottleneck. And even with a love nerf, I can squint and see it working with either being super on top of point gains and maybe using perks, or just excepting that relationship things will happen toward the end of spring or in summer.

But trust...I regret not buying the 200pt trust gain power up in the achievements. Oh well, it's a good thing that like in Elder Scrolls I have achieved Chim.(can edit values)

Trust definitely needs a look at. Since it's calculated at the same rate as love, then adding more sources of trust or something.
You both overestimate how much grind people are open to in these games and underestimate how stubborn people can be about getting their desired results.

I am one of those who will just grind out repeatable events until I achieve the result I want. Give me the tools for my outcome, and I won't care about intended timeframe.
 
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adanu

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It's something we've discussed at great length, along with things like a 'replay scene feature', and yeah, we'll probably wind up doing it down the line. It's part of the reason why stuff like the Datalog exists, and including plot recaps there is an absolute no-brainer.
IF Null is the Earth 69 version of David, you could even have it as something IC with Null learning some form of time travel later in the story to justify it IC. Call it 'hindsight' :D
 
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The_Man_With_No_Name

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You both overestimate how much grind people are open to in these games and underestimate how stubborn people can be about getting their desired results.

I am one of those who will just grind out repeatable events until I achieve the result I want. Give me the tools for my outcome, and I won't care about intended timeframe.
For xp you're not supposed to be hitting max level since it's designed for the whole length of the game. Only ch1 is out. Hitting level 6 by the end of Summer is fine.
For money, the grind is pretty light considering the amount of things that are in the game to buy. Also you get money boosts with level. If it's an issue it's pretty minor in the grand scheme and not terribly offensive.

I said at length the details of love/trust with someone else, but I'm not that committed to stating exact balance, outside of the obvious that trust has fewer opportunities to increase than love, until more content is in the game and we can see how they work into new events.

Edit: If people want very little to no grind, well the game isn't really designed with that in mind at the moment. Who knows, maybe something like a "story mode" setting will come in the distant future or custom grind speed settings. As long as the game doesn't get too much grindier than it is right now, I'll be happy no matter what level the grind is at.
 
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I posted this on discord for you for the signal boost on this. Pretty sure Riven, one of the coders, saw it so it's known now.

I was mulling over stealing this from Hobocop Harrier du bois who posted this elsewhere, but I like it too much not to post this here.:LOL: I don't think Ronchon will develop for this, but we can dream.
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I thought this Jean was Thirsty Jan, not Thirst-Quencher Jen.
 

destroyerofassholes

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I've never really bought into the whole "game grindy" takes but it is a tad exhausting for it to need new saves. Since I have separate playthroughs for different runs it becomes incredibly tedious to be forced to start over.

Hope we do get a chapter select.
 

NexivSelecaf

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On one hand, I support the notion of a chapter select. But on the other hand, edging for a couple of nights in a row makes ejaculating after all of the built-up tension very satisfying. ...and very messy.
 

FP00

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Don't really know if this is an error, but the characters seem to go around without underwear occasionally, even at low relationship values, not immediately noticeable unless you catch them changing.

I'm guessing it's an error, as dialogue doesn't seem to support it.
 
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