Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.8c] [Ron Chon]

[SHADOWM00N]

Be careful you don't end up like poor old The_Man_With_No_Name later down the line:
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Fuck me I just can't with this image, I laugh every time I see it.

 

[Tommy7358]

It's ok. They eventually let me out and gave me back my cowboy hat. I'll just have to make sure not to relapse by answering that question.

A bit too soon to make a judgement my man, the reason you're relatively sane right now is because there's been a lull in the updates. As soon as a version comes out, the people who don't bother to read are going to come out of the woodwork and if you're not careful and still being your helpful self *BAM* right back into the straitjacket for you.

Fuck me I just can't with this image, I laugh every time I see it.

The benefits of digging through old thread pages, I get to reuse old gems from time to time.

 

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[red1988]

at last i got jean good friends relationships with roque and laura and ist not esay here

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Does that mean you guys are reconsidering the idea of side-girls/hookups/flings after the completion of Chapter 2?

Oh no that's still a thing.

I'm not making a comment on morality or anything.

I personally just don't enjoy the idea of sleeping with a stranger because I like melting people's brains. I can only do that if I have the time to find their weak points and that's not easy with an anonymous stranger you'll likely never meet again.

If someone just wants a hole/rod to get off then more power to them.

 

[Null Void Abyss]

Quick question, does the SPICE sisters equals to 1 LI

 

[armond]

Oh no that's still a thing.

I'm not making a comment on morality or anything.

I personally just don't enjoy the idea of sleeping with a stranger because I like melting people's brains. I can only do that if I have the time to find their weak points and that's not easy with an anonymous stranger you'll likely never meet again.

If someone just wants a hole/rod to get off then more power to them.

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[Tommy7358]

Oh no that's still a thing.

I'm not making a comment on morality or anything.

I personally just don't enjoy the idea of sleeping with a stranger because I like melting people's brains. I can only do that if I have the time to find their weak points and that's not easy with an anonymous stranger you'll likely never meet again.

If someone just wants a hole/rod to get off then more power to them.

I was actually hoping you'd say yes so that the game's resources can all go towards the main Love Interests. Because I'd personally prefer 15 fully fledged Love Interests with roughly equal amounts of content rather than the same amount of content being split between 15 Love Interests and 10 side girls/flings.

The game's writing and characterisation is so good that it seems like a shame to divert resources towards girls who are only intended to have a single chapter/arc's worth of content. I honestly think no reasonable person is going to complain that 15 Love Interests are not enough and thus side girls/hookups/flings need to be added.

Will there possibly be a poll here or on Discord about implementing side girls/flings after work on Chapter 2 is completed or is this matter set in stone?

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Quick question, does the SPICE sisters equals to 1 LI

I've been advocating for this to be a thing if/when we make them. Have each sister be a stamina point.

The writing and characterisation is so good so it seems like a shame to divert resources towards girls who are only intended to have a single chapter/arc's worth of content.

They wouldn't be one note. They just wouldn't be genuine romantic partners.

They'd be like bros. You hang out, have a fun time, they acknowledge on going events, optional sex scenes.

So it's not like they're going to be a drain on resources to be set pieces. It'd be genuine content.

Will there possibly be a poll here or on Discord about the concerning adding side girls/flings after work on Chapter 2 is completed or is this matter set in stone?

Polls exist exclusively to gauge player interest. They do not dictate content.

 

[Karmadive]

I was actually hoping you'd say yes so that the game's resources can all go towards the main Love Interests. Because I'd personally prefer 15 fully fledged Love Interests with roughly equal amounts of content rather than the same amount of content being split between 15 Love Interests and 10 side girls/flings.

The game's writing and characterisation is so good that it seems like a shame to divert resources towards girls who are only intended to have a single chapter/arc's worth of content. I honestly think no reasonable person is going to complain that 15 Love Interests are not enough and thus side girls/hookups/flings need to be added.

Will there possibly be a poll here or on Discord about implementing side girls/flings after work on Chapter 2 is completed or is this matter set in stone?

I will say there is a level of feature creep that I feel seeing all the previews. I'd rather have it more streamlined and then focus on branching out on the extra bits after the main story is completed. Like adding little dlc options for the sandbox epilogue portion of the game as well as adding a extra reason to play through the game again when the story is complete.

 

[Buttholder]

I will say there is a level of feature creep that I feel seeing all the previews. I'd rather have it more streamlined and then focus on branching out on the extra bits after the main story is completed. Like adding little dlc options for the sandbox epilogue portion of the game as well as adding a extra reason to play through the game again when the story is complete.

All I can say is, we're still focusing on the important stuff behind the scenes. Much of the extra content, like side-girls, is way down the line, and stuff like the tattoos and body hair is already done. Those last two things were done because of the overhaul to the animation systems, so it was quickest and easiest to see if there was an audience for them here and now. Other than that, we're still chipping away at the stuff we were always planning on doing for the start of Chapter 2, it's not affected the timeline in any way

 

[NexivSelecaf]

body hair

Oooooooooo! You said the thing! Boots is gonna get-!

Oh, wait...

 

[Rehwyn]

Be careful you don't end up like poor old The_Man_With_No_Name later down the line:
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Whew, thank for the warning. Newly found this game and was clearly unaware of the dangers in this thread.

 

[Tommy7358]

They wouldn't be one note. They just wouldn't be genuine romantic partners.

They'd be like bros. You hang out, have a fun time, they acknowledge on going events, optional sex scenes.

So it's not like they're going to be a drain on resources to be set pieces. It'd be genuine content.


Polls exist exclusively to gauge player interest. They do not dictate content.

I never thought that you guys would just half-ass some extra side girls or something like that, only that it would be better to get the main story and love interests done first before doing all the other ideas you guys have considering current funding. But then again, I'm just some dude looking in from outside while you guys are both clearly passionate about your own game and understand the money situation much better than I ever could so I'm probably concerned over nothing along with putting the cart before the horse.

Also, I admit I haven't thought of the side-girls from that angle. Similiar to hanging out with Piotr and Kurt then, except they're female and you can bang them if you want. ...I really made it sound weird there didn't I? Anyways, I guess we'll see when the side-girls get implemented way down the line, maybe I'll do a complete 180° and beg the team to create more of them.

I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Do you mean polls are only a way to gauge what players are interested in most from a list of already planned content, therefore changing how soon they get implemented such as with the body hair and tattoos? But that polls will never influence whether certain content gets implemented or not?

All I can say is, we're still focusing on the important stuff behind the scenes. Much of the extra content, like side-girls, is way down the line, and stuff like the tattoos and body hair is already done. Those last two things were done because of the overhaul to the animation systems, so it was quickest and easiest to see if there was an audience for them here and now. Other than that, we're still chipping away at the stuff we were always planning on doing for the start of Chapter 2, it's not affected the timeline in any way

It's a relief to hear that the game isn't slowly getting scope crept and that you guys are still focused on the important things behind closed doors.

I am however looking forward to how the writing team is planning on squaring Null having flings and then explaining it to his polycule without him looking like Havok number 2 or a hypocrite since we know that the Love Interests will not cheat on Null. Time to gather everyone in a classroom, bust out the charm and "Polycule Consent Forms" perhaps?

I will say there is a level of feature creep that I feel seeing all the previews. I'd rather have it more streamlined and then focus on branching out on the extra bits after the main story is completed. Like adding little dlc options for the sandbox epilogue portion of the game as well as adding a extra reason to play through the game again when the story is complete.

I agree with you but since both Boots and Buttholder already said they are focusing on the important stuff first it's best we just let them cook. They're most likely even more anxious than us to see the game succeed and besides, they haven't done anything to earn player distrust thus far and it doesn't look like they're about to start anytime soon.

 

[blackocean10]

I've noticed some of the new positions for Chapter 2 (like for Ororo) aren't like they are currently with the girls currently in. Am I to assume that the code and art rework is being tied into comic cutaways eventually like I heard about for threesomes?

 

[Buttholder]

It's a relief to hear that the game isn't slowly getting scope crept and that you guys are still focused on the important things behind closed doors.

I am however looking forward to how the writing team is planning on squaring Null having flings and then explaining it to his polycule without him looking like Havok number 2 or a hypocrite since we know that the Love Interests will not cheat on Null. Time to gather everyone in a classroom, bust out the charm and "Polycule Consent Forms" perhaps?

Feature creep is something we've been very much trying to avoid. Too many games add new mechanics without fleshing out the old ones properly, and it's something we've discussed at length. It's part of the reason why we're determined to make sure each character gets a good amount of costumes, scenes and so on. Some will, by necessity, become more involved as the plot continues, but we want to make sure that no one gets left behind. We've all played a game where the devs get too excited with new characters and get so fixated on the new hotness, the characters who were there first wind up getting completely ignored - you're all probably thinking of about five different games just off the top of your head just reading that - but we like these characters and we want to make sure everyone gets their due no matter what, so try not to worry too much.

 

[adanu]

Feature creep is something we've been very much trying to avoid. Too many games add new mechanics without fleshing out the old ones properly, and it's something we've discussed at length. It's part of the reason why we're determined to make sure each character gets a good amount of costumes, scenes and so on. Some will, by necessity, become more involved as the plot continues, but we want to make sure that no one gets left behind. We've all played a game where the devs get too excited with new characters and get so fixated on the new hotness, the characters who were there first wind up getting completely ignored - you're all probably thinking of about five different games just off the top of your head just reading that - but we like these characters and we want to make sure everyone gets their due no matter what, so try not to worry too much.

This is one of many reasons I love what's been done with Jean as a beginning. She has so much shit that happens to her even outside of the Phoenix saga that I am very much looking forward to experiencing 69s version of those events with her lover not being a gigantic boy scout; just someone who loves her and wants the world to stop being shitty towards them.

 

[PrincessBitchJean]

This is one of many reasons I love what's been done with Jean as a beginning. She has so much shit that happens to her even outside of the Phoenix saga that I am very much looking forward to experiencing 69s version of those events with her lover not being a gigantic boy scout; just someone who loves her and wants the world to stop being shitty towards them.

She's still a bitch, though.

 

[Null Void Abyss]

She's still a bitch, though.

wow

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I don't quite understand what you mean by this. Do you mean polls are only a way to gauge what players are interested in most from a list of already planned content, therefore changing how soon they get implemented such as with the body hair and tattoos? But that polls will never influence whether certain content gets implemented or not?

Polls do, and have in the past, help us decide which order to tackle some things on the to do list.

However sometimes I'll hold a poll gauging a specific niche in adult gaming just to see what the make up of our community is.

Our game is a narrative sandbox focused on building emotional connections with the characters.

Hypothetically, if I held a poll asking if people are into bimbofication and we get an overwhelming yes. That does not mean Ron and the team will start working on adding bimbofication routes to each girl.

Knowing statistics does help us develop the game, but those statistics won't influence our creative vision if it ends up being the exact opposite in function.