salscou

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Pick one, please: You either get a totally canon story (which we were never going to get), or you get a story where you get to fuck a bunch of the female X-Men/Marvel characters without consequences.
Mate, you only just got here, so you dont get to tell me this.

TNHs big praise is how well it sticks to the comics and how faithfully the characters are represented, if this was a skinner box to paste porn animations into, it would be a different deal and game.

And it wasnt me who said that about Karma, it was shinny, so go sigh yourself.
 

armond

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This conversation reminds me of the development of Thief. Warren Specter sucked at stealth and wanted the team to make it possible for the player to just kill everybody. They refused because it would kill the spirit of the game. He concluded that in retrospect, they were right, and they would have made a worse game if they caved to his selfish demand. Sure the example is not 1:1, but I think there are enough similarities for the anecdote to be of value.
 

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Mate, you only just got here, so you dont get to tell me this.

TNHs big praise is how well it sticks to the comics and how faithfully the characters are represented, if this was a skinner box to paste porn animations into, it would be a different deal and game.

And it wasnt me who said that about Karma, it was shinny, so go sigh yourself.
Good, we're in agreement that they're not going to change characters willy nilly just to fit a mold. He also said Kurt was in a committed relationship with a woman. I think we should take things with a grain of salt when Shiny shares about things he would like to see happen, lol.
 

NexivSelecaf

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Well, I don't have to be Nostradamus to see how this is going to go... [starts humming Highlander by Lost Horizon]

Be sure to wish Boots a happy birthday tomorrow.
Good, we're in agreement that they're not going to willy nilly change characters just to fit a mold. He also said Kurt was in a committed relationship with a woman. I think we should take things with a grain of salt when Shiny shares about things he would like to see happen, lol.
Finally. Someone who gets it.
 

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There is a loss at the core demographic and you know it, the dev time and money invested on that would eat away at the development of the game as it was sold.
I support them on patreon, and i promise you i would question that if suddenly instead of getting more art and content for the girls i would have to found content that neither me nor the main demographic playing this have no interest on.
If they want to do it after the game has been fully developed, then sure, they are free to do so, but not while we have been waiting patiently all this time.
I... don't know it. It's why I asked for some clarification. What would that loss be? How would it be sudden if you're already being informed of the possibility? Especially as Boots said "later down the line". When, I would assume, they would have the main game practically done and/or got more money to cover both without losing dev time. Money they could get from the other demographics, so it wouldn't even be your portion of the funds going to more fleshed out males. If they know what their version of a breeding kink would be, they could raise that cash real quick.

Granted, this whole topic should be taken with a brick-sized grain of salt. It's all too early to know how the writers conclude they should or could aproach this.

also, this directly would contradict the cool factor of TNH sticking to the characters as written in the comics, because none of the male members of the team around in the game are gay.
That just means more for the FemNull players. they'd get their pick of the women too as a few had heavy subtext of being bi or lesbian (looking at you, Kitty x Illyana). Though, I heard Claremont also wanted to make both Storm and Wolverine bi.
When asked about Logan and Ogun from the Kitty Pryde and Wolverine limited series, he replied "The man's over 200. Don't you think he's tried it at least once?"
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He got to be more explicit with Storm.
She and Calisto lived together in a house in San Fransisco, where there was a secret lair, with a girls only hot tub. Said lair, you got to by going through the closet. Don't think Claremont was trying to be subtle here.

And then there's the Juggernaut x Black Tom and Pyro x Avalanche vibes I've heard rubblings of. Back then you had to have even more subtext for the men then the women.

Thats not how it works.
If we arent getting Karma because shes a lesbian, wich i can totally agree with, you dont get to mindrape Kurt into being gay with Jeans gay beams, those are double standards.
If we can "break canon" to have it that Kitty doesn't pursue her chrome-plated peter and unsubmerge her text with Illyana, why can't we permit the same with the menfolk?
 

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If we can "break canon" to have it that Kitty doesn't pursue her chrome-plated peter and unsubmerge her text with Illyana, why can't we permit the same with the menfolk?
Sure man, lets have the famously catholic and heterosexual nightcrawler be gay because the girls are single in a dating sim.
I dont even know why i bother to argue with people that are obviously not doing it in good faith.
And for your example of the women, some do, most of them arent, Jean and Laura for example are heterosexual,
 

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TNH's biggest appeal was towards the comic book crowd because of it's authenticity and reverence it had / still has for the source material , that aspect also helped it to break away from the shadow of the game from which it emerged ( not allowed to say it's name here ) so if the dev team suddenly decides to do a swerve because of a survey ( hope not ) it definitely won't go well with the crowd that came in for that authentic X-Men life sim experience which is where players like Salscou myself and many others find ourselves in

The addition of gay characters isn't the issue here as long as it stays lore accurate but if all of a sudden Null starts putting his dick inside Kurt or Xavier's ass than we will know that we have lost the plot

Ik what some of you will say , "Oh that's optional content you can ignore , Null is already forming a harem so it's already not lore accurate " and yes you are right especially about the harem , those are big sticking points that many of us have already called out before despite the team trying to give a convoluted excuse for the whole polyamory system even existing which btw has also been the source of many players headaches since the women act like possessive psychos

At the end of day , you can't eat your cake and have it too , you either make a X-Men porn parody game or you make a X-men life sim with porn elements thrown in it , you can't do both
 
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I not sure if this has been requested before, but I'd like to see some sexy clothing for each girl that has it's own built-in role play. Jean gets a sexy CEO (or a sexy teacher uniform)outfit which would include glasses, a tight professional miniskirt ect. and maybe a roleplay about Null having to fuck to keep his position based on what her traits are.

Laura should get a biker style cop outfit equipped with handcuffs, and the dialogue once again should reflect her traits and she keeps you handcuffed to her bed until she's satisfied.

Rogue should get a Blood Rayne cosplay no real explanation for why she should, except Rogues ass in Rayne's outfit just seems right. although I wouldn't mind having rogue with a unique set of BDSM gear with the red ball and ropes included.

I'm sure you guys have a better imagination than me and could come up with better outfit options and scenes that could accompany them. Heck even having unique room art to go along with themes might work as well. I'm not asking for anything immediate, but if there's time down the line that could be something to add.
 

Azrayel

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At the end of day , you can't eat your cake and have it too , you either make a X-Men porn parody game or you make a X-men life sim with porn elements thrown in it , you can't do both
yall are no fun.

Where's the fun?

Where's the thrill?

Where's your sense of adventure?

...it's a porn game with hot girls and superpowers, Christ on rice.
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DarkLurker12

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Sure man, lets have the famously catholic and heterosexual nightcrawler be gay because the girls are single in a dating sim.
I dont even know why i bother to argue with people that are obviously not doing it in good faith.
And for your example of the women, some do, most of them arent, Jean and Laura for example are heterosexual,
TNH's biggest appeal was towards the comic book crowd because of it's authenticity and reverence it had / still has for the source material , that aspect also helped it to break away from the shadow of the game from which it emerged ( not allowed to say it's name here ) so if the dev team suddenly decides to do a swerve because of a survey ( hope not ) it definitely won't go well with the crowd that came in for that authentic X-Men life sim experience which is where players like Salscou myself and many others find ourselves in

The addition of gay characters isn't the issue here as long as it stays lore accurate but if all of a sudden Null starts putting his dick inside Kurt or Xavier's ass than we will know that we have lost the plot

Ik what some of you will say , "Oh that's optional content you can ignore , Null is already forming a harem so it's already not lore accurate " and yes you are right especially about the harem , those are big sticking points that many of us have already called out before despite the team trying to give a convoluted excuse for the whole polyamory system even existing which btw has also been the source of many players headaches since the women act like possessive psychos

At the end of day , you can't eat your cake and have it too , you either make a X-Men porn parody game or you make a X-men life sim with porn elements thrown in it , you can't do both
Um, where in Boots' announcement did he mention Kurt? Or Xavier for that matter? And the possessive psycho jank is hillarious and you know it.

The fact that we have a noteworthy amount of non-straight males and non-males period playing the game as it is, is indication that there is a market viability for LGBT and female Null options.
First off I can assure you that we would not be acting on this data anytime soon. I have indeed said before that including a female Null would add to the dev time.

Secondly, the data was 10.4% bisexuals. Considering the entirety of our LGBT community adds up to 16.7%.

Again, work would have to wait until development has come further along. Love and Sex: Second Base learned this the hard way but they did get to a point where enough male MC content was completed to add female MC content and there's been no slow down since they began.

However I'll add that the 16.7% of individuals play in spite of not matching their sexual identity. That percentage would most certainly rise if the option was truly there.

A rule of statistics is that you don't immediately act on them. They're information and you choose when and how to act on that information.
Sure Shiny has joked (?) at length about clapping that devil-tail, but I see no mention of drastically twisting characterizations to force a dating pool. Then again, there's that whole sexual revolution in universe. And even a good catholic knows about the poophole loophole :devilish: jk
If you're doing a dating sim with all these diverse characters with a range of sexualities, it would be a missed opportunity to not have the option for the ones that swing that way when you got a market for them. Regardless of how few they may be or if it ends up being mostly for the straight Nulls and FemNulls.

Besides,
How you play Null: Play a version of myself 42%
They can always play a anal-exclusive FemNull to get their fix for Wolverine dick, Beast cock and so forth.
 

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Or at least the next public beta version.
It was either with one of the 0.3 or 0.4 releases, but getting Rogue's approval to invite Jean into the relationship but still getting mad about Laura despite me saying nothing to Laura has dissuaded me from QA testing.
 
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It was either with one of the 0.3 or 0.4 releases, but getting Rogue's approval to invite Jean into the relationship but still getting mad about Laura despite me saying nothing to Laura has dissuaded me from QA testing.
Fair enough.

Either way, I think we're close to a release. Beyond the issues I listed when the public beta came out, I didn't run into any bugs or crashes
 

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Well, I don't have to be Nostradamus to see how this is going to go... [starts humming Highlander by Lost Horizon]

Be sure to wish Boots a happy birthday tomorrow.

Finally. Someone who gets it.
God damn it I'm hearing it in my mind again...

Welp, I'm tired in more ways than one, so no screen-capturing the posts and scrolling them to this time.

Happy Birthday, ShinyBoots1993. Though again, I advise that you don't spend any of your special day here.
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Must...resist urge to... listen again...

Go... listen to... Through The Fire And Flames instead...


That aside, so ShinyBoots1993's birthday is on January 19 huh? I know it doesn't mean much coming from someone from a porn game forum whom you're probably never going to meet in real life but hope you have a happy birthday anyway Boots!
 
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