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allm

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Personally I think it would be horrible to Frankenstein this. I've said it before and say it again I really think it would be better to make a spin off, keep the city and the theme, but make a new character that lives there and a new set of girls to molest while he figures out the rules of the new world order... Maybe bring in some the established characters as cameos.
I agree, but it's a shame that these characters' stories were never concluded. And if we're raising the question of a spin-off, it's easier to just make a new game. Besides, there's no shortage of those on this forum as it is.
 
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I agree, but it's a shame that these characters' stories were never concluded. And if we're raising the question of a spin-off, it's easier to just make a new game. Besides, there's no shortage of those on this forum as it is.
You will never be able to finish the game as the original dev. intended too. Be inspired from the game, and make your own version of it fine, but don't try to continue the game or to finish it. That will be an insult to the game, the original dev. and everyone who supported him.
 

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I agree, but it's a shame that these characters' stories were never concluded. And if we're raising the question of a spin-off, it's easier to just make a new game. Besides, there's no shortage of those on this forum as it is.
There's always hope the original Dev will return to conclude his vision of the story.

Why are you saying Spin-off like it isn't a new game, it has the benefit of being new while still affording the opportunity to crossover the established characters and themes that matter to you (without the endless salt from those who will inevitably hate how you changed the game), it's the theme and the attitude of the MC are what makes this game gold IMO, Others will have their own opinions.
 

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There's always hope the original Dev will return to conclude his vision of the story.

Why are you saying Spin-off like it isn't a new game, it has the benefit of being new while still affording the opportunity to crossover the established characters and themes that matter to you (without the endless salt from those who will inevitably hate how you changed the game), it's the theme and the attitude of the MC are what makes this game gold IMO, Others will have their own opinions.
Look, it's been a year and a half, and we've heard nothing from him. Total radio silence, both on the forums and his personal blogs. Anyway, it'll take me at least three months just to get everything ready. So, if the author pops up with any news during that time, I'll just pull the plug and scrap my version, no problem. It's not like anyone loses anything here. Even if my version does eventually come out, it'll have a big disclaimer saying it's just fan art.
 

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Look, it's been a year and a half, and we've heard nothing from him. Total radio silence, both on the forums and his personal blogs. Anyway, it'll take me at least three months just to get everything ready. So, if the author pops up with any news during that time, I'll just pull the plug and scrap my version, no problem. It's not like anyone loses anything here. Even if my version does eventually come out, it'll have a big disclaimer saying it's just fan art.
You do you buddy, best of luck on whatever you make.
 

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Look, it's been a year and a half, and we've heard nothing from him. Total radio silence, both on the forums and his personal blogs. Anyway, it'll take me at least three months just to get everything ready. So, if the author pops up with any news during that time, I'll just pull the plug and scrap my version, no problem. It's not like anyone loses anything here. Even if my version does eventually come out, it'll have a big disclaimer saying it's just fan art.
It doesn't really matter how long the dev. has been gone. Even if there were an official announcement that a game wouldn't be continued, it's not ok to steal the work and present it as your own. A disclaimer saying it's fan art doesn't change that, as it won't tell which part is the original work, and which par is yours.

My biggest problem although, is that you are not him, and therefore you won't be able to recreate the unique stile he had, which made this game a great and unique game on this board. Your continuations will therefore always be a Frankenstein monster.

Last but not least. If you think it's too much work starting a new game, how will you finish this one? It's probably not even 10% complete at the current state, and there are at least 10 paths which has unfinished parts. Do the right thing. Start your own game, instead of stealing someone else work and present it as your own.
 
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It doesn't really matter how long the dev. has been gone. Even if there were an official announcement that a game wouldn't be continued, it's not ok to steal the work and present it as your own. A disclaimer saying it's fan art doesn't change that, as it won't tell which part is the original work, and which par is yours.

My biggest problem although, is that you are not him, and therefore you won't be able to recreate the unique stile he had, which made this game a great and unique game on this board. Your continuations will therefore always be a Frankenstein monster.

Last but not least. If you think it's too much work starting a new game, how will you finish this one? It's probably not even 10% complete at the current state, and there are at least 10 paths which has unfinished parts. Do the right thing. Start your own game, instead of stealing someone else work and present it as your own.
Man, you're posting this weird stuff for the second time. Alright, look: first off, all that talk about disrespecting the author and his patrons is total BS. If anything, it's out of respect! I'd hate to see such a brilliant game just vanish into thin air."

"Second: I'm not looking to take the author's place or claim his work as mine. And if you don't wanna play the fan continuation, that's your call, buddy. No one's gonna twist your arm."

"Third: It's not about being too hard to start from scratch. I just wanna see this game finished. Someone literally asked if folks want a sequel, and the upvotes speak for themselves. So why not try?
 

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Man, you're posting this weird stuff for the second time. Alright, look: first off, all that talk about disrespecting the author and his patrons is total BS. If anything, it's out of respect! I'd hate to see such a brilliant game just vanish into thin air."

"Second: I'm not looking to take the author's place or claim his work as mine. And if you don't wanna play the fan continuation, that's your call, buddy. No one's gonna twist your arm."

"Third: It's not about being too hard to start from scratch. I just wanna see this game finished. Someone literally asked if folks want a sequel, and the upvotes speak for themselves. So why not try?
I hope you may have a great job on continuation of this game !!! Good luck!!!
 
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I'd hate to see such a brilliant game just vanish into thin air."
But you have no issue with stealing it or ruining it?

I too think this is a brilliant game. It's unique in so many ways that I'm 100% sure than anyone, except the original dev, trying to continue it, will ruin it.

"Third: It's not about being too hard to start from scratch. I just wanna see this game finished. Someone literally asked if folks want a sequel, and the upvotes speak for themselves. So why not try?
Good luck with that. As I wrote. The game is currently less than 10% finished, so why not make your own game instead, and let's see how good you are?
 

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The last we heard from the developer on discord was the 1st of July last year. It is currently the 12th of September, 365x1.2 not 365x1.5, you're judging things based on his activity here.

Illuminati supporters have some renders that could be suitable for implementation in the game itself and have written up some ideas for scenes that they want to see in the game. There are four of those plotlines to be concluded, only one of them has been put into the public section and even that is just bullet points that still require further writing. In addition to Illuminati supporters' scenes. Plus the main requested Layla scene is on hold until the stuff posted publicly is done.

Shanti is to be introduced, Lucy and [Name Withheld] need a complete rewrite before they come in, Geri should be waking up soon and [Name Withheld] should also be coming in for fun times (whether she likes it or not).

And some details about the other girls, Andrea looked to be in for more fun times with Bobby (whether she likes it or not). Rachel is supposed to have each of the two pills have her respond in a different way. Miko was getting a "toy", I think it's Leah but I'm not certain. Alexy was to be a more frequent encounter in the office. Alice was going to be "more open" to MC (whether she likes it or not). Ophelia and her daughter (whose name escapes me) would have had a plotline being worked on. Jennifer had some blackmail on the way once MC worked something out with Rachel and Melissa, and Rachel's brother. Whitney was about to be "more open" to MC in the Town Hall (whether she likes it or not). Taylor was also about to go see and "get intimate with" Mayor Mitchell (whether she likes it or not). While it's disappointing those renders on discord weren't used in the game, Meredith does look like she was about to let MC "join her" in bed (whether she likes it or not).
 

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The last we heard from the developer on discord was the 1st of July last year. It is currently the 12th of September, 365x1.2 not 365x1.5, you're judging things based on his activity here.
Honestly, I was just going by his activity here and on Patreon. But thanks for the detailed info! Now I at least have an idea of which direction to take the plot. So, what was the news from the author like a year or two ago? And is there any way to drop the renders here?
 

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I gave no more detailed information than is available from simply playing the game. I'm keeping things vague, especially the Illuminati plots.
As for getting the Illuminati supporters' renders, that's up to each individual person that has them. I know the guy who shared the renders of Meredith used most of his monthlies for HorizonticalS to prepare for future scenes, granted there were a few on his wish list that were there just because.
 

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I hate to mention another game in this thread but allum's idea has plenty of precedent. Lab Rats being the one that springs to mind but there are so many more.

This was one of my very favourite games, but the reality is what it is. If it can be continued at all, I'm behind it and wish it all the best.
 

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I hate to mention another game in this thread but allum's idea has plenty of precedent. Lab Rats being the one that springs to mind but there are so many more.

This was one of my very favourite games, but the reality is what it is. If it can be continued at all, I'm behind it and wish it all the best.
If you wouldn't mind sending a few other titles in a message to keep 'em out of the thread, I'd be forever grateful. Great theme/idea, but having a hard time finding similar.
 
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The last we heard from the developer on discord was the 1st of July last year. It is currently the 12th of September, 365x1.2 not 365x1.5, you're judging things based on his activity here.

Illuminati supporters have some renders that could be suitable for implementation in the game itself and have written up some ideas for scenes that they want to see in the game. There are four of those plotlines to be concluded, only one of them has been put into the public section and even that is just bullet points that still require further writing. In addition to Illuminati supporters' scenes. Plus the main requested Layla scene is on hold until the stuff posted publicly is done.

Shanti is to be introduced, Lucy and [Name Withheld] need a complete rewrite before they come in, Geri should be waking up soon and [Name Withheld] should also be coming in for fun times (whether she likes it or not).

And some details about the other girls, Andrea looked to be in for more fun times with Bobby (whether she likes it or not). Rachel is supposed to have each of the two pills have her respond in a different way. Miko was getting a "toy", I think it's Leah but I'm not certain. Alexy was to be a more frequent encounter in the office. Alice was going to be "more open" to MC (whether she likes it or not). Ophelia and her daughter (whose name escapes me) would have had a plotline being worked on. Jennifer had some blackmail on the way once MC worked something out with Rachel and Melissa, and Rachel's brother. Whitney was about to be "more open" to MC in the Town Hall (whether she likes it or not). Taylor was also about to go see and "get intimate with" Mayor Mitchell (whether she likes it or not). While it's disappointing those renders on discord weren't used in the game, Meredith does look like she was about to let MC "join her" in bed (whether she likes it or not).
Please bear with me, as it's been quite a while since I last played this game, so my memory might be wrong. But as far as I remember, there is more unfinished path in the game. Like the path with the college girls, while the secretary is kept away with pointless tasks. There is at least 1 path where it in the game says something like "not available yet". There is also the spying on the secretary's daughter at home, in bed, in shower etc. and probably also sex with her in her bed at night or when she is home alone. And then there is the blind girl. It's pretty clear that there was going to be sex at some point in time. Also the the whole lab story was just started. And these are just the ones I remember on top of my head.
 
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I hate to mention another game in this thread but allum's idea has plenty of precedent. Lab Rats being the one that springs to mind but there are so many more.
As far as I remember, no one continued Lab Rats. They made a new version of Lab Rats, with new renders and code, changed a number of things, added new content, and dropped some content. I think they even changed game platform too. I'm fine with that. It's what I call be inspired of another game. But what Allm is planing to do, as far as I understand, is to take the code and renders that the original dev has made and continue from that point. That is stealing, and it will be a Frankenstein game, as he will not be able to continue the game in the same style as the original dev did.Beside that. As far as I understand. He is not planning to finish the game. He will just make a half ass finish for a few paths, he likes to be finished.

This was one of my very favourite games, but the reality is what it is. If it can be continued at all, I'm behind it and wish it all the best.
This is also one of my favorite games, and I would hate to see it becoming a Frankenstein. It can't be continued without the original dev. His style is too unique for that, and his style is why it's so good.
 
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Please bear with me, as it's been quite a while since I last played this game, so my memory might be wrong. But as far as I remember, there is more unfinished path in the game. Like..

..And these are just the ones I remember on top of my head.
Ah, you're the second one to touch on one of the Illuminati plots. Yes, there's more to the missing content than I mentioned, I was just failing to remember every name.



As for the whole Lab Rats thing, Lab Rats 2 Reformulated is essentially a mod for Lab Rats 2 made with permission from the original developer and there are several sub-mods. The modders also use the discord to coordinate so nobody steps on anyone's toes.
The issue with allm is more than a difference of style, as demonstrated below.
Please answer me these three questions, allm.
I have withheld the names of two women who are not currently in the game, one of whom is an Iluminati request. What are both of their names?
I have some renders of Meredith and Rebecca. What (besides them being naked and distressed) do they have in common?
I have some renders of Emma and Zafina. What (besides them being naked and distressed) do they have in common?
 

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As far as I remember, no one continued Lab Rats. They made a new version of Lab Rats, with new renders and code, changed a number of things, added new content, and dropped some content. I think they even changed game platform too. I'm fine with that. It's what I call be inspired of another game. But what Allm is planing to do, as far as I understand, is to take the code and renders that the original dev has made and continue from that point. That is stealing, and it will be a Frankenstein game, as he will not be able to continue the game in the same style as the original dev did.Beside that. As far as I understand. He is not planning to finish the game. He will just make a half ass finish for a few paths, he likes to be finished.


This is also one of my favorite games, and I would hate to see it becoming a Frankenstein. It can't be continued without the original dev. His style is too unique for that, and his style is why it's so good.
It seems you've heard the word "theft" somewhere, but they forgot to explain its meaning to you. Let me give you an example:
  1. I take old renders, old code, remove the creator's name everywhere, and replace it with my own — that's theft.
  2. I take old renders and old code, add new renders to them and write code for them, and in the "About the Game" section, I note that version 0.171 was created by Horizontical Studio, while anything above with the mark "B", for example 0.172 B, is a fan-made addition that has no relation to the original author's vision — this is not theft, but solely my interpretation of the further development of the plot, which I'm willing to share with everyone interested.
So, make an effort to at least learn the meaning of the words you use :)
 

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It seems you've heard the word "theft" somewhere, but they forgot to explain its meaning to you. Let me give you an example:
  1. I take old renders, old code, remove the creator's name everywhere, and replace it with my own — that's theft.
  2. I take old renders and old code, add new renders to them and write code for them, and in the "About the Game" section, I note that version 0.171 was created by Horizontical Studio, while anything above with the mark "B", for example 0.172 B, is a fan-made addition that has no relation to the original author's vision — this is not theft, but solely my interpretation of the further development of the plot, which I'm willing to share with everyone interested.
So, make an effort to at least learn the meaning of the words you use :)
Using someone else entire code and renders without their permission is theft no matter which disclaimer you put on it. Why do you think Rolling Stones, Billboard and other magazines have sued various AI companies recently?
Fan mods without the consent of the original dev. are theft too. So far I haven't seen a single fan mod where the original dev. didn't consent to using his work for the fan mod. In this case the dev. isn't able to give his consent, so any fan mod using his code and/or renders no matter how old they are, will be theft.
Quoting parts of a book or other written material in your own book, isn't theft as long as you add correct source references. But quoting a complete book, and adding an additional chapter on the other hand is theft.

So yes. Please make an effort to at least learn the meaning of the term theft, before trying to teach others of the meaning of the word.
 
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