Ren'Py The Restaurant [v0.2.3] [Xell]

[Chaussettes]

Damn, the dev is weird. Just popping up to say that the dude literally harassed me because I posted a bad review 4 months ago (that was upvoted many times) and he DMed me telling me basically that I'm an idiot for not finishing the game before rating it and that he would see with moderators to take down my review (you can do it, I literally don't give an f). Is that how fair criticism is handled here lol ? I only described my experience, apparently shared by a few others, as I have the right to do so. So what if I just played the intro ? I thought it was just bad all around and it's still like 10 % of the game, as he said so in the DM. If a game can't catch your interest after the intro, if a movie can't catch your interest during its first 20 minutes, are you not allowed to leave ? What the fuck lmao.

You can even see in the reviews that the dude upvotes everything good and nothing on the more nuanced ones, like people that think the game should be either better or improved don't matter, nice way to see things as a creator. Pretty sure he DMed the others that left a bad review. So weird to be this insecure about your work. People are allowed to have their opinions, and even on universally recognized great games people are allowed to give their opinions. There are people that didn't enjoy Elden Ring, Zelda games, popular RPGs or that had something negative to say about those and they can and should be able to do it. I understand that this is probably his life's work and/or it's very important to him but you should always try to see things with a bit of nuance.

Anyway, just a bit of a rent and to tell people how he acts, I probably won't come in this thread again. Good luck to him, as I told him in the DMs.

 

[bapcules]

Damn, the dev is weird. Just popping up to say that the dude literally harassed me because I posted a bad review 4 months ago (that was upvoted many times) and he DMed me telling me basically that I'm an idiot for not finishing the game before rating it and that he would see with moderators to take down my review (you can do it, I literally don't give an f). Is that how fair criticism is handled here lol ? I only described my experience, apparently shared by a few others, as I have the right to do so. So what if I just played the intro ? I thought it was just bad all around and it's still like 10 % of the game, as he said so in the DM. If a game can't catch your interest after the intro, if a movie can't catch your interest during its first 20 minutes, are you not allowed to leave ? What the fuck lmao.

You can even see in the reviews that the dude upvotes everything good and nothing on the more nuanced ones, like people that think the game should be either better or improved don't matter, nice way to see things as a creator. Pretty sure he DMed the others that left a bad review. So weird to be this insecure about your work. People are allowed to have their opinions, and even on universally recognized great games people are allowed to give their opinions. There are people that didn't enjoy Elden Ring, Zelda games, popular RPGs or that had something negative to say about those and they can and should be able to do it. I understand that this is probably his life's work and/or it's very important to him but you should always try to see things with a bit of nuance.

Anyway, just a bit of a rent and to tell people how he acts, I probably won't come in this thread again. Good luck to him, as I told him in the DMs.

Once again, it shows how different tastes are...
Personally, I think this game is simply bombastic!

Huh... and now I'm already waiting for the from Xell.

 

[Buletti]

Damn, the dev is weird. Just popping up to say that the dude literally harassed me because I posted a bad review 4 months ago (that was upvoted many times) and he DMed me telling me basically that I'm an idiot for not finishing the game before rating it and that he would see with moderators to take down my review (you can do it, I literally don't give an f). Is that how fair criticism is handled here lol ? I only described my experience, apparently shared by a few others, as I have the right to do so. So what if I just played the intro ? I thought it was just bad all around and it's still like 10 % of the game, as he said so in the DM. If a game can't catch your interest after the intro, if a movie can't catch your interest during its first 20 minutes, are you not allowed to leave ? What the fuck lmao.

You can even see in the reviews that the dude upvotes everything good and nothing on the more nuanced ones, like people that think the game should be either better or improved don't matter, nice way to see things as a creator. Pretty sure he DMed the others that left a bad review. So weird to be this insecure about your work. People are allowed to have their opinions, and even on universally recognized great games people are allowed to give their opinions. There are people that didn't enjoy Elden Ring, Zelda games, popular RPGs or that had something negative to say about those and they can and should be able to do it. I understand that this is probably his life's work and/or it's very important to him but you should always try to see things with a bit of nuance.

Anyway, just a bit of a rent and to tell people how he acts, I probably won't come in this thread again. Good luck to him, as I told him in the DMs.

Dev has a point as a review after 20 min is pointless. It is a "1st look" but no review.

The way the system is right now does not prevent anyone from doing it unfortunately.

I think it is good though that you mention that you did not play the VN. So people can decide how valuable that review is for them.

 

[xell_]

Damn, the dev is weird. Just popping up to say that the dude literally harassed me because I posted a bad review 4 months ago (that was upvoted many times) and he DMed me telling me basically that I'm an idiot for not finishing the game before rating it and that he would see with moderators to take down my review (you can do it, I literally don't give an f). Is that how fair criticism is handled here lol ? I only described my experience, apparently shared by a few others, as I have the right to do so. So what if I just played the intro ? I thought it was just bad all around and it's still like 10 % of the game, as he said so in the DM. If a game can't catch your interest after the intro, if a movie can't catch your interest during its first 20 minutes, are you not allowed to leave ? What the fuck lmao.

You can even see in the reviews that the dude upvotes everything good and nothing on the more nuanced ones, like people that think the game should be either better or improved don't matter, nice way to see things as a creator. Pretty sure he DMed the others that left a bad review. So weird to be this insecure about your work. People are allowed to have their opinions, and even on universally recognized great games people are allowed to give their opinions. There are people that didn't enjoy Elden Ring, Zelda games, popular RPGs or that had something negative to say about those and they can and should be able to do it. I understand that this is probably his life's work and/or it's very important to him but you should always try to see things with a bit of nuance.

Anyway, just a bit of a rent and to tell people how he acts, I probably won't come in this thread again. Good luck to him, as I told him in the DMs.

I have a total of 2,787 renders, and from what you described, you only played through 222 renders, which is about 8% of the game, not 10%. Secondly, you insulted me twice in DM, called me a "dumbass," and I never insulted you back. I kindly asked that you play the game properly first before trashing it. You're deliberately misleading players in your review without actually playing the game. You claimed there’s no gameplay even though you didn’t finish the intro. I noticed your review because someone intentionally sent it to my Discord just to start a pointless discussion, which was probably you.

Also, saying my girls are “nowhere special” and “just common pretty girls” is another insult. I can take all kinds of criticism,it’s totally normal if you don’t like the game—but leaving a long ass review with only 2 stars without even finishing the intro is unfair. You don’t have to continue playing the game, I can fully understand that, but why mislead players like this and try to intentionally drop my rating?

I’m not insecure about my work at all—I’m confident and moving forward, aiming to climb to the top. But I also want this community to be free from toxicity, which is already a problem in other games.
Edit; Yes, I send a DM to everyone who rates the game, whether it’s 1 star or 5 stars, to thank them for taking the time to write a review. People who write reviews usually care about the game, which is extremely important to me, whether the feedback is negative or positive. But yours isn’t one of them. Saying, “Hey, I played the game for 5 minutes, the girls are nothing special, and there’s no gameplay,” is not criticism at all,it’s pure toxicity and an intentional attempt to trash the game.

 

[Buletti]

I have a total of 2,787 renders, and from what you described, you only played through 222 renders, which is about 8% of the game, not 11%. Secondly, you insulted me twice in DM, called me a "dumbass," and I never insulted you back. I kindly asked that you play the game properly first before trashing it. You're deliberately misleading players in your review without actually playing the game. You claimed there’s no gameplay even though you didn’t finish the intro. I noticed your review because someone intentionally sent it to my Discord just to start a pointless discussion, which was probably you.

Also, saying my girls are “nowhere special” and “just common pretty girls” is another insult. I can take all kinds of criticism,it’s totally normal if you don’t like the game—but leaving a long ass review with only 2 stars without even finishing the intro is unfair. You don’t have to continue playing the game, I can fully understand that, but why mislead players like this and try to intentionally drop my rating?

I’m not insecure about my work at all—I’m confident and moving forward, aiming to climb to the top. But I also want this community to be free from toxicity, which is already a problem in other games.

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[Chaussettes]

I think it's fair to decide if you want to continue a game based on his intro, many people do that with a lot of cultural products. It's on the dev, the writer, and in general the maker of the product, to make a good hooking introduction in order to make the player/viewer engaged. If you don't, you risk them giving up early, even if the follow up is good. It's part of the process of making a story. I was fair in my review, as I said explicitly that I only played this, so you can't accuse me of misleading. If I had talked about the rest of the game while not having played it, then only would it have been misleading.

I didn't trash your game mindlessly, I talked about the intro and how it was a very bad one imho, because nothing made sense (again, imho), which I have the right to think so. And then, on that, you and people can agree or disagree, that's it. And again, I'm apparently not the only one to think so, as my review had the most reactions despite being a recent one. So, if it found echo with others, instead of going at it this way, you should reflect on why.

And I only insulted you back after you told me what I said was BS and implying a few other things, I didn't start it. And I don't get it, are you implying that I went on your discord lol ? I literally only tried the game, put a review, and forgot about it until you DMed me, nothing more. It's not that deep to me.

 

[xell_]

I think it's fair to decide if you want to continue a game based on his intro, many people do that with a lot of cultural products. It's on the dev, the writer, and in general the maker of the product, to make a good hooking introduction in order to make the player/viewer engaged. If you don't, you risk them giving up early, even if the follow up is good. It's part of the process of making a story. I was fair in my review, as I said explicitly that I only played this, so you can't accuse me of misleading. If I had talked about the rest of the game while not having played it, then only would it have been misleading.

I didn't trash your game mindlessly, I talked about the intro and how it was a very bad one imho, because nothing made sense (again, imho), which I have the right to think so. And then, on that, you and people can agree or disagree, that's it. And again, I'm apparently not the only one to think so, as my review had the most reactions despite being a recent one. So, if it found echo with others, instead of going at it this way, you should reflect on why.

And I only insulted you back after you told me what I said was BS and implying a few other things, I didn't start it. And I don't get it, are you implying that I went on your discord lol ? I literally only tried the game, put a review, and forgot about it until you DMed me, nothing more. It's not that deep to me.

I understand you may not want to continue the game, but you’re logging in here, writing a long review, giving 2 stars after playing only 8% of the game, and telling players the game is hopeless from the start, the girls aren’t interesting or special, and so on. Instead, you could’ve shared this as a comment here. People who see the game will notice your 2-star rating first, which might mislead them and make them not want to play the game, even though you’ve only played 8% of it. But it’s fine keep your review there. I’ll focus on bringing this game to the top instead of wasting my time replying to you here. I’m trusting my girls, my story, and most importantly, my fans.

 

[Dessolos]

Damn, the dev is weird. Just popping up to say that the dude literally harassed me because I posted a bad review 4 months ago (that was upvoted many times) and he DMed me telling me basically that I'm an idiot for not finishing the game before rating it and that he would see with moderators to take down my review (you can do it, I literally don't give an f). Is that how fair criticism is handled here lol ? I only described my experience, apparently shared by a few others, as I have the right to do so. So what if I just played the intro ? I thought it was just bad all around and it's still like 10 % of the game, as he said so in the DM. If a game can't catch your interest after the intro, if a movie can't catch your interest during its first 20 minutes, are you not allowed to leave ? What the fuck lmao.

You can even see in the reviews that the dude upvotes everything good and nothing on the more nuanced ones, like people that think the game should be either better or improved don't matter, nice way to see things as a creator. Pretty sure he DMed the others that left a bad review. So weird to be this insecure about your work. People are allowed to have their opinions, and even on universally recognized great games people are allowed to give their opinions. There are people that didn't enjoy Elden Ring, Zelda games, popular RPGs or that had something negative to say about those and they can and should be able to do it. I understand that this is probably his life's work and/or it's very important to him but you should always try to see things with a bit of nuance.

Anyway, just a bit of a rent and to tell people how he acts, I probably won't come in this thread again. Good luck to him, as I told him in the DMs.

I think it's fine and normal to not like a game if it doesn't interest you right away or you just don't like it. Not sure what's in your review but to call something bad or 1 / 2 star review when you barley played it to me is unfair and something I wouldn't value an opinion on.

 

[SirLecherous]

I think it's fair to decide if you want to continue a game based on his intro, many people do that with a lot of cultural products. It's on the dev, the writer, and in general the maker of the product, to make a good hooking introduction in order to make the player/viewer engaged. If you don't, you risk them giving up early, even if the follow up is good. It's part of the process of making a story. I was fair in my review, as I said explicitly that I only played this, so you can't accuse me of misleading. If I had talked about the rest of the game while not having played it, then only would it have been misleading.

I didn't trash your game mindlessly, I talked about the intro and how it was a very bad one imho, because nothing made sense (again, imho), which I have the right to think so. And then, on that, you and people can agree or disagree, that's it. And again, I'm apparently not the only one to think so, as my review had the most reactions despite being a recent one. So, if it found echo with others, instead of going at it this way, you should reflect on why.

And I only insulted you back after you told me what I said was BS and implying a few other things, I didn't start it. And I don't get it, are you implying that I went on your discord lol ? I literally only tried the game, put a review, and forgot about it until you DMed me, nothing more. It's not that deep to me.

Had similar criticisms regard the story and spoke to the dev about it. After playing many games from here story telling is treated like the skin of a banana(could not think of a word)...and not asking for tolkien or jrr martin either.Never the less the on the concept of stories being bad we are usually in the low minority compared to the other players.

The dev has a specific reason for the story telling format it's lighthearted , funny , parody style (is it really?...that's up to the player to decide). Guessing why things may not be as coherent.

But this game has some of the best renders hands down, voice acting ,multi protag , cool interface etc. Xell is actually cares and puts time into this real talk(he live streams the dev often and as a daz user I know it's a pain in the ass).

Try playing some more and see if your mind changes. And xell quite a few people agreed with his take, that's something you should probably look into or not.Not telling you how to run the game just saying check out feedback.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

I think it's fine and normal to not like a game if it doesn't interest you right away or you just don't like it. Not sure what's in your review but to call something bad or 1 / 2 star review when you barley played it to me is unfair and something I wouldn't value an opinion on.

I don’t even think reviews should be allowed on a game after 2 updates, maybe make it a minimum of 4 or 5 updates before you make a review, i would feel like the biggest douchebag to make a bad review after only the intro to a game anyway. I’ve played lots of games that are so bad and guess what I don’t even bother wasting my time writing a bad review for those, but that’s just how I feel

 

[SirLecherous]

I don’t even think reviews should be allowed on a game after 2 updates, maybe make it a minimum of 4 or 5 updates before you make a review, i would feel like the biggest douchebag to make a bad review after only the intro to a game anyway. I’ve played lots of games that are so bad and guess what I don’t even bother wasting my time writing a bad review for those, but that’s just how I feel

No if it's out it should be reviewable then why put it out? And if the person was a douche the creator should message said person for clarification/dialogue and if any changes are made the creator should message the person for an update(the reviewer can also say gfto). That is how everything works , restaurants , product , services etc. This isn't a scalable option but possible in the earlier phases.

We Degens talking about porn game but it doesn't matter this is still a product for consumption and we have thoughts which can help the creator or not. Even negative reviews can propel.

I dislike this "mommy look i drew a horse"...then the coddle them approach ...bruh you put shit out we gonna shit on it and go come back with less shit or more shit.

Lastly 5 updates can be 700 real days in NSFW creator time.

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

No if it's out it should be reviewable then why put it out? And if the person was a douche the creator should message said person for clarification/dialogue and if any changes are made the creator should message the person for an update(the reviewer can also say gfto). That is how everything works , restaurants , product , services etc. This isn't a scalable option but possible in the earlier phases.

We Degens talking about porn game but it doesn't matter this is still a product for consumption and we have thoughts which can help the creator or not. Even negative reviews can propel.

I dislike this "mommy look i drew a horse"...then the coddle them approach ...bruh you put shit out we gonna shit on it and go come back with less shit or more shit.

Lastly 5 updates can be 700 real days in NSFW creator time.

I’m just saying that the review system on here is broken. It’s way to easy for for people to have multiple accounts or bots and can leave a shitty negative review even without playing the game or they can go the other way and leave a 5 star review for a shitty game, that’s why reviews on this site shouldnt be followed, play the game yourself and decide if you like it or not.

 

[xell_]

I don’t even think reviews should be allowed on a game after 2 updates, maybe make it a minimum of 4 or 5 updates before you make a review, i would feel like the biggest douchebag to make a bad review after only the intro to a game anyway. I’ve played lots of games that are so bad and guess what I don’t even bother wasting my time writing a bad review for those, but that’s just how I feel

Had similar criticisms regard the story and spoke to the dev about it. After playing many games from here story telling is treated like the skin of a banana(could not think of a word)...and not asking for tolkien or jrr martin either.Never the less the on the concept of stories being bad we are usually in the low minority compared to the other players.

The dev has a specific reason for the story telling format it's lighthearted , funny , parody style (is it really?...that's up to the player to decide). Guessing why things may not be as coherent.

But this game has some of the best renders hands down, voice acting ,multi protag , cool interface etc. Xell is actually cares and puts time into this real talk(he live streams the dev often and as a daz user I know it's a pain in the ass).

Try playing some more and see if your mind changes. And xell quite a few people agreed with his take, that's something you should probably look into or not.Not telling you how to run the game just saying check out feedback.

I'm not scared of negative or bad reviews,that's completely normal, since everyone has different tastes and ideas. What annoys me is when someone doesn’t even play the game properly and just leaves a 1-star review for fun. This is an issue on Steam as well.
Bots are also a big problem, they’re everywhere. Someone can easily create multiple accounts, like their own comment, etc. Any legit review, whether negative or positive, is always important to me. I’ve already talked with people who left negative reviews and asked them what was wrong or how I could improve. If I understand the negative reviews, I can fix the issues more easily, it’s crucial to me.

What I really hate are reviews that manipulate future players without actually playing the game. But that’s an issue everywhere, not just here. Someone shared his review on my Discord, saying “finally an honest review,” but all I saw was dishonesty and insults. That’s why I told him in DM that it would be healthier if he actually played the game a bit more before leaving a review.

 

[PickerLewd]

Well, I still haven't played the game, so I don't know the plot yet.

At the time, I only got as far as the main menu, which was very well done and animated, but I didn't have a GPU and I knew that the game would run very badly for me in terms of FPS.

Now that I have a GPU and have switched to Win 11, it's time to play the demo .

My only criticism is that Zoey's mom looks more like an older sister, maybe five years older, but I don't care because she's gorgeous .

 

[xell_]

Well, I still haven't played the game, so I don't know the plot yet.

At the time, I only got as far as the main menu, which was very well done and animated, but I didn't have a GPU and I knew that the game would run very badly for me in terms of FPS.

Now that I have a GPU and have switched to Win 11, it's time to play the demo .

My only criticism is that Zoey's mom looks more like an older sister, maybe five years older, but I don't care because she's gorgeous .

i hope you like it man, have fun!

 

[xell_]

Her name is going to be Melanie, and her nickname will be Melody ->

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[doomulol]

1st time tried
daughter is hot and has unique character , the "just get over with it" vibe rarely see this on a game.
mother is too plain! cant see special about her, typical complainer of anything maybe a lil bit of "something" to make her interesting? (i dont know what, dont ask me).
about the voice its like they just reading, no changes of tones, feelings or whatsoever, like disconnected on the actual lines
nocomment how the game progress "let the dev's cook"

overall great corruption game! keep it up looking forward to your game... and more subquest pls

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

1st time tried
daughter is hot and has unique character , the "just get over with it" vibe rarely see this on a game.
mother is too plain! cant see special about her, typical complainer of anything maybe a lil bit of "something" to make her interesting? (i dont know what, dont ask me).
about the voice its like they just reading, no changes of tones, feelings or whatsoever, like disconnected on the actual lines
nocomment how the game progress "let the dev's cook"

overall great corruption game! keep it up looking forward to your game... and more subquest pls

Whatever he does do not change Zoey at all, she is perfect, even love her voice and teenage attitude, she’s perfect. I know a lot of devs that are perfectionists that like to go back and tinker with there characters to try and make them look better, but please don’t mess with Zoey. In other games that devs tried this usually makes the character look worse than the original

 

[doomulol]

Whatever he does do not change Zoey at all, she is perfect, even love her voice and teenage attitude, she’s perfect. I know a lot of devs that are perfectionists that like to go back and tinker with there characters to try and make them look better, but please don’t mess with Zoey. In other games that devs tried this usually makes the character look worse than the original

ikr this character is a hit

 

[soprano31]

Truly a very good game !!
the beautiful bond between mother and daughter,a mother who would literally do anything for her daughter,
the cuteness of Zoey,but at the same time such a seductiveness that radiates from her,
her radiance and natural voluptuous shapes,
how Rachel always stands up for her and always supports her,
the really very good emotional scenes between the two.
( a really gorgeous couple that fits each other so well )

In short,
You are really doing very great xell_ ,
with truly gorgeous renders,with their own emotions and unique personalities,
I'm really looking forward to the future of this game !!