VN Ren'Py The Roommate [v0.12.07] [togs]

[save8lot]

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More fun and games with MC and the women in his life!

A security issue at Lastname Park, Kari's haircut turns out to be less severe than feared, someone's lurking under MC's desk waiting to give him a BJ, and intrepid reporter Avril O'Neal wants to talk to MC and Lois.

I've been working to implement the changes I've been discussing and added a few extra shots to make those work. You might also notice minor changes even if you were to replay certain scenes the same way as before - they are just to ensure things flow smoothly either way.

I also discovered an error in the setup for the dinner with John. If you had Lois be John's dinner date and she's not on a hard slave or whore path she would tell Kari that MC just wanted her to flirt. However, there was an error where in the reverse situation Kari would state she intended to sleep with him regardless of which path she was on. That should now work as corrected.

There are other areas where I'm working on rebalancing things, some less obvious than others.

As I've said many times, this is my first game. I've made my share of mistakes and I've also misjudged how things would come across. There are also definitely times when things I intend to be humourous don't go over. That happens to me in real life, too - even after twenty-odd years living in the US, there are times when my American friends just look at me in bewilderment when I know the same things would have had my mates in the UK cracking up.

Anyway, everything is subject to change. I'm not going to apologize for wanting to try things out - it's all a learning experience, but I will say again that it's not my intention to piss people off. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun. If you're not having fun with it, let me know!

 

[NebulousShooter]

The problem I had is togs has added so damn many characters to the game who have barely been touched who could have easily been used for the "dark" content.

Instead (seemingly by his own admission for money), he warps a lot of people's perception of Kari and Lois. Lois I can get is a character who can essentially be anything the player wants her to be, its kind of a whatever (the business trip made it fairly clear).

I like immersing in games, whether its a porn game or not. So If there's content of a character being a whore just because I didn't sleep with her within like a couple weeks when we're supposedly "made for each other" according to the plot, makes no sense. I like a WIDE variety of content, but it's more of a "this is fucking stupid" view of that content with her specifically.

Spoiler: tl;dring a bit

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Again I reiterate, what did he make all of these other characters for if he's not going to use them?


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Also, once again I state my loathing of Kiki, and I'm now 100% convinced she was forced on us as PA, when Vanessa was clearly the original intent. Game stays broken till I get an alternative to that non-option option in my honest view.

Pretty much the Kiki being forced as the new PA and the whole investing in breastaraunt scene treating MC like a bitch are my two biggest beefs personally, as they're the most ridiculous situations MC would and should clearly have full control over, and he doesn't.

I don't really have an issue or major strong feelings that are like REEEE vibes. Just disappointment that I called it that it was a couple people hurling money at him that changed the vibe of the game. Feelsbadman.

As disappointing as it is when devs cave in to big spenders whims, I have to at least give credit to togs for having the stones to admit that a lot of the questionable choices happed under the money pressure, most devs would lie about that to the end of the world, even when its blatantly obvious that is the case. Makes me think that he is genuine in wanting to 'fix' things.

Will he do it enough to make me give the game another chance, aka change the default whore Kari and other similar forced stuff that I have yet to see getting addressed? Will see

 

[kevcolqaz]

As disappointing as it is when devs cave in to big spenders whims, I have to at least give credit to togs for having the stones to admit that a lot of the questionable choices happed under the money pressure, most devs would lie about that to the end of the world, even when its blatantly obvious that is the case. Makes me think that he is genuine in wanting to 'fix' things.

Will he do it enough to make me give the game another chance, aka change the default whore Kari and other similar forced stuff that I have yet to see getting addressed? Will see

There is a way to change this pay lots of money to the dev-get more vanilla fans to pay them, and all devs should provide and give first priority to the paying customers, the game can be developed according to the wishes of his original plot if he has a loyal fanbase that they trust the process and he has lots of paying patreons, he is just starting and agrees he makes a lot of mistakes he is just getting experience now.

 

[Parmenion1405]

Spoiler: Some Route Spoiler - and a related wish at the DEV

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[Maviarab]

Spoiler: Some Route Spoiler - and a related wish at the DEV

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Just one of the many things that was started...then just left/forgotten about/no time to do anything with it *sighs*

 

[johnpouljones]

Just one of the many things that was started...then just left/forgotten about/no time to do anything with it *sighs*

Did they turn out to be unnecessary? Nobody wanted them?

 

[Maviarab]

Did they turn out to be unnecessary? Nobody wanted them?

No, Togs just has too many storylines/plots going that he can't keep up with or has forgotten he implemented.

 

[internet_says]

No, Togs just has too many storylines/plots going that he can't keep up with or has forgotten he implemented.

I don't think he forgot, and agree there are a lot of storylines. I think the thing making it seem worse is the scope of updates change (good change IMO) to be a day or 2 (in game time) with alot of event density instead of 3 days to a week but low event density, paired with updates slowing from like weekly or biweekly to monthly to almost bimonthly compounding together to make storylines less frequently touched on.

 

[Porthas]

I saw Kari getting fisted even though I didn't want to it annoyed me.
The amount of bugs is ridiculous like I have said multipe times I got forced into a threesome.
Lois acts like I slept with her even though I didn't.
It feels like a Bethesda game and honestly I can't take it seriously anymore.

 

[Uthuriel]

It feels like a Bethesda game and honestly I can't take it seriously anymore.

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Install this...

 

[kevcolqaz]

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I've got a bunch of stuff rendering which is holding things up a little. However, some of the scenes that are being worked on are intended to be part of the "sex on demand" pool, so I'm hemming and hawing over whether to push forward with a new build.
Right now, I'm thinking I will aim to get a release for patrons before the weekend is out, with the caveat that there may still be stuff that won't show up until later.

Can't wait for the update.

 

[Virtual Player]

I just hope the plot starts to make sense again. It really took a hard left.

 

[BGRW2020]

Since the dev asked at the end about our likes and dislikes - I will tell him, your latest updates are getting worse, raunchy and discusting. the outfits Kari, lois and Kiki wear are for sluts not real women nor for a CEO's girlfriends - You should get back on track and also would still be nice if we could have full choices as to the dresses etc. our women wear so as not to have them strutting around as sluts . Your story was great at the beginning and would have been still good if this left hand turn you made to sluttiness and kink was either eliminated or at least was a choice.
Also some of the girls that are saying things to the mc were never ever in my replay his girls. ie: Cassie says she's pregnant but I never fucked her at all so the consistency in following the choices is broken
Also we still cannot get Kari to leave the work she is in - Since we are paying for everything in the story we have the right to tell her to get a respectable job or we should be able to dump her and kick her out.

 

[Virtual Player]

Lois was best girl right up until someone drank too much of Eyes Wide Shut. I actually loved her backstory and was rooting for her more than Kari. If there was someone who deserved to be next to the MC, it was her.

 

[kevcolqaz]

Lois was best girl right up until someone drank too much of Eyes Wide Shut. I actually loved her backstory and was rooting for her more than Kari. If there was someone who deserved to be next to the MC, it was her.

The eyes wide shut would be a great game and a good introduction, but it was forced and too fast and didn't look natural.

 

[Logan1377]

I feel like I need to just say that I see so many people posting opinions about the game that are the absolute polar opposite of mine. I've played the game since early on, and I've liked it more and more as its gone on. It checks a lot of my boxes, from the gradual "slutification" of otherwise conservative women, to public sex, group sex, impregnation outside of a relationship, lactation, and all around a good time with an MC who's a stud and likes to spread it around because he can. Its a ton of fun, and I'm super interested to see what's coming next. I don't want realism or romance in erotic content. Leave real life for real life.

 

[internet_says]

looks like the new build is out for patrons so hope it shows up soon on here

 

[gregers]

Just copying togs'

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Build 1103 is available for patrons

This version takes us through Wednesday, June 20, day 80 of the game.

Apart from the new content that simply cover the events of the day, it also incorporates a new mechanism which is part of a wider plan to tailor the game to people's individual tastes.

Up until now, there was a simple "Vanilla/Kinky" option at the start of the game, but a new game would give a wider range of ranging options from none (0) to extreme (3).

Loading a pre-existing game that doesn't already have a custom level will default to Moderate (level 2).

You can override this by hitting Escape, selecting "Enter a code" then entering "Fetishes" as previously described. You'll be prompted to enter the new level and you should save.

As I mentioned, this is part of a range of measures which also include simple questions like Lois asking you about personal grooming (of pubic hair), the survey Kari asks you to complete and other in-game choices such as when you decide to order certain toys for Lois or not.

It may take me a while to build on that, but it's my sincere desire to give people (as far as possible) the experience they're hoping for and you'll find extensive changes have been implemented to existing content to that end, but without sacrificing anything. I've done my best to avoid breaking anything - but let me know of any problems that arise.

I will also say that this is a fantasy - I think many of us harbour "darker" thoughts late at night and that's when I do much of my work on the game (it's 4.30AM right now). Many women have rape fantasies, for example, but that's not to say for even a moment they actually want those fantasies fulfilled.

The game, I think, is best played with MC being a reasonably decent guy, knocking up Kari and her sisters, and enjoying the company of some of the other girls. But, as I've said before, sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy, or at least to some extent.

Anyway, in this build you'll (hopefully) be entertained by the various goings on with Avril, Kayla, Mallory, Rei, Sylvie and Vanessa as well as the main girls.

Lots more to come and, with luck, a quicker turnaround for the next release!

We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.

 

[Maviarab]

Just copying togs'

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We'll see how it all comes out in the wash: To me a lot of the confusion is due to togs' consistently referring to sharing/sluttification content as "dark", where I would normally take "dark" content to refer to something else (power dynamics, hard D/s stuff, possibly dub-con or non-con content, etc.). It's possible to be into the former while wanting to avoid the latter, and vice versa. Time will tell how far this new system allows for that.

He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....

 

[gregers]

He just likes to make things even more complicated than they were doesn't he....

I mean, there is a certain charm to his everything-and-the-kitchen-sink approach: A first-time dev who follows his enthusiasms and is willing to experiment and throw in new systems as they strike him: Money, machismo, lust, fatigue, the phone and calendar, that kink survey that didn't go anywhere, and now a miniature Kinsey scale for how kinky you want the game.

I don't think those systems have done much good for the game broadly speaking and a few of them now seem vestigial, but I can see how they keep the dev's life interesting.

A simple choice-driven VN with logical branching would definitely be cleaner, sure.