TsubameYui

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I'll emphasize that netorare can't occur without a romance. so don't forget that. Your sister shouldn't be doing anything lewd(with other people) unless she is your girlfriend! You can stay a blue balled virgin that gets no action, but she does have to be your girlfriend for there to be NTR.
Hard agree with this too often do people just slap the ntr tag to things like a mother son but there are no feelings beyond familial between them... that's not ntr that's normal lol there has to be some romantic relationship between the 2 characters otherwise it's just empty i personally prefer games where i (MC) has both a romantic and physical relationship with the character before the Ntr not often seen though but there are a few out there
What you guys are referring to is "cuckoldry", not NTR. There is a lot of overlap between those 2 fetishes, but NTR is defined as any person close to the protagonist being alienated from him by one or more antagonists. A very large percentage of all NTR media is about non-romantic mother, sister, best friend, etc. characters being stolen from the protagonist.

It's kind of like an "all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs" thing. All cuckoldry falls under NTR's definition, but not all NTR is cuckoldry. Cuckoldry requires 2 things that NTR does not: romantic feelings, and consent of the stolen person. If there are no romantic feelings between the stolen and the protagonist and/or the stolen person is taken without their consent (rape/drugs/hypnosis/etc.) then it's NTR but not cuckoldry.
 
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CungDuts why not release a "dark version patch" outside patreon like many devs do?

The direction you're taking is probably gonna backfire and you'll end up getting no support and losing the little patrons you have.
 
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CungDuts

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CungDuts why not release a "dark version patch" outside patreon like many devs do?

The direction you're taking is probably gonna backfire and you'll end up getting no support and losing the little patrons you have.
I've already announced this on my Patreon.
I'm not completely removing the NTR story from the previous version( I'm still continuing the story and the CGs for it even now)—I'm just moving it to a separate patch that will be released in the future.

And of course I know I can’t make everyone happy, that’s impossible.
But I’ve made up my mind: I’m going to continue and finish the current/main story exactly as it is right now.
 
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just beeing the voice of the minority that is happy that sis not getting mentaly destroid any more (for now...).
the romance path looks so cute, with the twist of the sis beeign the instigator. kind of have happy that maximums piece of shit antagonist is getting a backseat (for now.. :cautious:)
 
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CungDuts

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Ah, the reviews are getting worse, lol. So, because there are some people who weren't happy that I removed all the NTR routes from the previous version, I've decided to upload the patch soon. I just want to make sure my paid members get it first before the general release (since I can't announce it on Patreon).
 

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What you guys are referring to is "cuckoldry", not NTR. There is a lot of overlap between those 2 fetishes, but NTR is defined as any person close to the protagonist being alienated from him by one or more antagonists. A very large percentage of all NTR media is about non-romantic mother, sister, best friend, etc. characters being stolen from the protagonist.

It's kind of like an "all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs" thing. All cuckoldry falls under NTR's definition, but not all NTR is cuckoldry. Cuckoldry requires 2 things that NTR does not: romantic feelings, and consent of the stolen person. If there are no romantic feelings between the stolen and the protagonist and/or the stolen person is taken without their consent (rape/drugs/hypnosis/etc.) then it's NTR but not cuckoldry.
Kind of an absurd definition by that logic every mf in the world who's mother has remarried has been Ntr'd every sister that got a boyfriend again by that logic you got ntr'd so congratulation most of the world your being ntr'd without even knowing it...
 

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Kind of an absurd definition by that logic every mf in the world who's mother has remarried has been Ntr'd every sister that got a boyfriend again by that logic you got ntr'd so congratulation most of the world your being ntr'd without even knowing it...
I don't know if what the dude said is the true correct definition of NTR but? It's with the context that there's tension between the person and the person doing the NTR? If your mom got remarried that's one thing, but if a dude you hated started banging her and then she basically stopped interacting with you it'd be NTR by this guy's standards. Those are 2 different scenarios
 

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Kind of an absurd definition by that logic every mf in the world who's mother has remarried has been Ntr'd every sister that got a boyfriend again by that logic you got ntr'd so congratulation most of the world your being ntr'd without even knowing it...
The point of NTR is the alienation, though. NTR is about the feelings of loss, humiliation, jealousy (romantic or not). A mother getting remarried is not NTR, but a mother getting remarried to a guy that forces her to abandon, neglect, or abuse her son is NTR. A sister getting a boyfriend is not NTR, but if that boyfriend (usually the brother's bully) forces/convinces the sister to start bullying, humiliating, or just cut off all contact with her brother, then that is NTR.
 

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But I’ve made up my mind: I’m going to continue and finish the current/main story exactly as it is right now.
So… does this mean we’ll have to wait 2–3 years for the dark path now?
I wish you patience and good luck with the project, if that’s the case

Just a friendly note: try not to take every comment here too close to heart. If feedback keeps pushing you to change direction every update, the game might lose the identity it had on day one. Stick to your original vision, the loyal audience will follow, and the haters will eventually move on.

I’ll be honest: I came here for one game and added it to my watch list, but when the next update completely shifted the approach and removed the darker content, I lost interest. For me, consistency matters more than trying to please everyone.

Still rooting for the project, just hoping it won’t drift too far from what made it special in the first place.
 
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The point of NTR is the alienation, though. NTR is about the feelings of loss, humiliation, jealousy (romantic or not). A mother getting remarried is not NTR, but a mother getting remarried to a guy that forces her to abandon, neglect, or abuse her son is NTR. A sister getting a boyfriend is not NTR, but if that boyfriend (usually the brother's bully) forces/convinces the sister to start bullying, humiliating, or just cut off all contact with her brother, then that is NTR.
Came here just to say that. The problem is people look at the translation instead of understanding what the word actually means in Japanese. It combines the words for stealing and sleeping. Nothing about the word implies romantic betrayal, it just means someone stealing someone from someone else through sex.
 

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Ah, the reviews are getting worse, lol. So, because there are some people who weren't happy that I removed all the NTR routes from the previous version, I've decided to upload the patch soon. I just want to make sure my paid members get it first before the general release (since I can't announce it on Patreon).
I am glad there would be a patch to put it back, as I really digging that darker path, and wondering where it was going, specially with the girl in the hallway that guy showed his phone to. Needless to say, this update at first had me going WTF happen, where is my darker story here?
 

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Hard agree with this too often do people just slap the ntr tag to things like a mother son but there are no feelings beyond familial between them... that's not ntr that's normal lol there has to be some romantic relationship between the 2 characters otherwise it's just empty i personally prefer games where i (MC) has both a romantic and physical relationship with the character before the Ntr not often seen though but there are a few out there
NTR as typically used on here, basically means "Any NON-pc dick getting ANY use." And honestly, I kinda agree with it, because I'm trying to self-insert here. It's a fantasy, so I want "me" to be the only one getting to use my dick. I know lots of other dudes are doing that irl. Anyone I've been interested in, ever, may have been with other dudes or have even been with other dudes (in general, like dating, not like getting railed at that moment) when I was interested in them... but it's not really something I want to think about.

It's CERTAINLY NOT part of MY fantasy to SEE other dudes getting with anyone. And especially in a porn game, I basically just want to be able to be like, "I find her hot. I'm gonna bang her." or, "I don't find her hot. Nobody's gonna bang her." (Although I actually like Netori quite a bit) Also, IF I choose NOT to get with someone and THEN someone like "my best friend" (I don't think I have EVER CARED about another dude in ANY of these) can get with her but it's just like, "Hey, bro. We're dating now." and I don't SEE it, THEN it's cool.

So even though it's not the ACTUAL definition, I like how it's normally used on here, and I do NOT want to SEE any non-pc dicks getting any use. (Nor hear about it, really. "We're dating" is about as much as I'd be okay with hearing. Technically reading, but you get my point)
 

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NTR as typically used on here, basically means "Any NON-pc dick getting ANY use." And honestly, I kinda agree with it, because I'm trying to self-insert here. It's a fantasy, so I want "me" to be the only one getting to use my dick. I know lots of other dudes are doing that irl. Anyone I've been interested in, ever, may have been with other dudes or have even been with other dudes (in general, like dating, not like getting railed at that moment) when I was interested in them... but it's not really something I want to think about.

It's CERTAINLY NOT part of MY fantasy to SEE other dudes getting with anyone. And especially in a porn game, I basically just want to be able to be like, "I find her hot. I'm gonna bang her." or, "I don't find her hot. Nobody's gonna bang her." (Although I actually like Netori quite a bit) Also, IF I choose NOT to get with someone and THEN someone like "my best friend" (I don't think I have EVER CARED about another dude in ANY of these) can get with her but it's just like, "Hey, bro. We're dating now." and I don't SEE it, THEN it's cool.

So even though it's not the ACTUAL definition, I like how it's normally used on here, and I do NOT want to SEE any non-pc dicks getting any use. (Nor hear about it, really. "We're dating" is about as much as I'd be okay with hearing. Technically reading, but you get my point)
Only the whingers use it like that, because it's not at all what it means but helps rationalize their insecurity. There are multiple tags for a reason, try learn them and how to use the filter system instead of running to the comments to cry about the possibility of seeing other men potentially having sex in a porn game. It's like going to pornhub and throwing a tantrum because not everything is in POV, and the sight of male actors offends you. Just so childish and entitled lmao

Every single woman in a harem game is a cuck btw. Think about that before demanding safe spaces
 

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Only the whingers use it like that, because it's not at all what it means but helps rationalize their insecurity. There are multiple tags for a reason, try learn them and how to use the filter system instead of running to the comments to cry about the possibility of seeing other men potentially having sex in a porn game. It's like going to pornhub and throwing a tantrum because not everything is in POV, and the sight of male actors offends you. Just so childish and entitled lmao

Every single woman in a harem game is a cuck btw. Think about that before demanding safe spaces
Insecurity? It's about fantasy, dude.

Also, there's only ONE tag for NTR, NTS, and Netori (I forget the 3 letter acronym. NTI, maybe?), so because I LIKE Netori but DON'T LIKE NTR, I can't just block all NTR. That's why whenever the tag is present, you'll see someone ask if it's avoidable, and sometimes what type it is. (Sometimes the description or a dev note clarifies already, though)

Also, it's NOT like going to PornHub and complaining about not everything being in POV. It's like going to the POV section and finding the tag refers to 1st person POV, 2nd person POV, AND 3rd person POV, not liking 3rd person POV, and then asking which it is. :rolleyes:

Not our fault the tags are insufficient. People have been asking for more, especially with regards to Netori vs Netorare, since before I even joined. Seems to be years and years.

Edit: Also, nobody was demanding a safe space. I was talking about how it's usually used here and why I like that definition, because I want to avoid it. That's all.

Even when one of us NTR-haters goes somewhere tagged NTR and asks what kind or if it's avoidable, we just ignore that thread if we don't like the answer. Nobody's "demanding a safe space" dude. Just shared my opinion on a forum, about something that was mentioned in that forum. Like forums are meant for.
 

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Insecurity? It's about fantasy, dude.

Also, there's only ONE tag for NTR, NTS, and Netori (I forget the 3 letter acronym. NTI, maybe?), so because I LIKE Netori but DON'T LIKE NTR, I can't just block all NTR. That's why whenever the tag is present, you'll see someone ask if it's avoidable, and sometimes what type it is. (Sometimes the description or a dev note clarifies already, though)

Also, it's NOT like going to PornHub and complaining about not everything being in POV. It's like going to the POV section and finding the tag refers to 1st person POV, 2nd person POV, AND 3rd person POV, not liking 3rd person POV, and then asking which it is. :rolleyes:

Not our fault the tags are insufficient. People have been asking for more, especially with regards to Netori vs Netorare, since before I even joined. Seems to be years and years.

Edit: Also, nobody was demanding a safe space. I was talking about how it's usually used here and why I like that definition, because I want to avoid it. That's all.

Even when one of us NTR-haters goes somewhere tagged NTR and asks what kind or if it's avoidable, we just ignore that thread if we don't like the answer. Nobody's "demanding a safe space" dude. Just shared my opinion on a forum, about something that was mentioned in that forum. Like forums are meant for.
NTS = sharing, which yes, has it's own tag.

Netori = cheating, which again, yes, has it's own tag.

You could block sharing, netorare, multiple penetration and then I bet you people wouldn't find nearly as many games to complain about. Netorare has it's own meaning. It's not how the tag is typically used at all, only really ever done by the people flooding a games comments to complain about having to acknowledge that women have sex outside of their existence lmao
 

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NTS = sharing, which yes, has it's own tag.

Netori = cheating, which again, yes, has it's own tag.

You could block sharing, netorare, multiple penetration and then I bet you people wouldn't find nearly as many games to complain about. Netorare has it's own meaning. It's not how the tag is typically used at all, only really ever done by the people flooding a games comments to complain about having to acknowledge that women have sex outside of their existence lmao
Cheating is not the same thing as Netori. Netori is stealing someone else's girl. Cheating also includes NTR.
 
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