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VN Ren'Py The Scheme of Betrayal [v0.3] [Frxnz]

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Frxnz

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Finished my playthrough now, and although there were some parts (perhaps too many parts) that I thought were a bit slow, I enjoyed it overall. The graphics look great, and there are some really nice women here that I hope we get to see plenty more of. The story definitely has me intrigued!

When I played the previous update, I did notice a fair few technical errors in the writing, with some Russian remaining in the dialogue and Laura's name being changed to "Lora" a few times, with one exception that I found (in the spoilers) these have been taken care of now. There are still a few typos here and there, and some funny little translation mishaps, but otherwise it's mostly fine in that sense now.

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Hi and thank you so much for the bug report. I will look into them shortly
 
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Frxnz

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Finished my playthrough now, and although there were some parts (perhaps too many parts) that I thought were a bit slow, I enjoyed it overall. The graphics look great, and there are some really nice women here that I hope we get to see plenty more of. The story definitely has me intrigued!

When I played the previous update, I did notice a fair few technical errors in the writing, with some Russian remaining in the dialogue and Laura's name being changed to "Lora" a few times, with one exception that I found (in the spoilers) these have been taken care of now. There are still a few typos here and there, and some funny little translation mishaps, but otherwise it's mostly fine in that sense now.

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About translation errors or the use of some words - in my country many things are called differently, so due to the large amount of text I physically cannot memorize all the words I need to look up to make them fit the context. Anyway, I will change some phrases to the ones you showed me, thank you
 
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TonyMurray

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I know, but like I said, he added it when people complained in the past. The dev already showed he has no spine, but for some reason will hold strong on not adding it to the beginning for some dumb reason. So whether people ignore me and hide my comments, whether my comments do nothing, which will happen, I will fill this thread with just complaints about the name change, he shouldn't of changed it at all, then I wouldn't even be here now.
Thanks for liking the post I made after playing the game, MagicMan!

Oh, and to answer your question, yes, I entered my name at the end when prompted. I can only imagine how pissed off you would be if you were able to choose your name at the start of the game and then had to change it at the end of chapter two! And yes, it makes perfect sense to do it the way the dev did it. The way you want it to work wouldn't fit the story, which you would see if you were to play it.
 

MagicMan753

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Thanks for liking the post I made after playing the game, MagicMan!

Oh, and to answer your question, yes, I entered my name at the end when prompted. I can only imagine how pissed off you would be if you were able to choose your name at the start of the game and then had to change it at the end of chapter two! And yes, it makes perfect sense to do it the way the dev did it. The way you want it to work wouldn't fit the story, which you would see if you were to play it.
I did play it is still stupid, The name change at the beginning is the only thing that will stop me from complaining.

ALL I WANT IS TO NOT HAVE TO PLAY AS VINCENT OR ROLE PLAY VINCENT AS SOMEONE ELSE.

Changing the name there does not change my point that it is not my story it is still Vincent's, which is the crux of my problem.
 
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TonyMurray

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I did play it is still stupid, The name change at the beginning is the only thing that will stop me from complaining.

ALL I WANT IS TO NOT HAVE TO PLAY AS VINCENT OR ROLE PLAY VINCENT AS SOMEONE ELSE.

Changing the name there does not change my point that it is not my story it is still Vincent.
It's not stupid at all. It fits the game perfectly. There's no reason at all for the dev to put in a name selection at the start of the game, because then you would have to change it to something else later on.
 
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MagicMan753

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It's not stupid at all. It fits the game perfectly. There's no reason at all for the dev to put in a name selection at the start of the game, because then you would have to change it to something else later on.
Or I could just change it to the same, I don't want to play as Vincent for 3 plus hours, it ruins it for me.

If you can't change the name, maybe add an ability to create an alias at the beginning(essentially a choose your name), so I would feel more involved till I get to the name change. I don't like or have any attachment to Vincent.
 
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TonyMurray

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Or I could just change it to the same, I don't want to play as Vincent for 3 plus hours, it ruins it for me.

If you can't change the name, maybe add an ability to create an alias at the beginning(essentially a choose your name), so I would feel more involved till I get to the name change. I don't like or have any attachment to Vincent.
You realise you just said "If you can't change the name, add an ability to essentially choose your name", right? :LOL:

This is just something you're going to have to live with. Your two options are:
1. Deal with it. If, as you say, you've played it. You can merrily go onwards now with whatever name you please.
2. Forget about it and go play one of the multitudinous games that allows you to pick your own name at the start.

I guess, to quote back at you, the dev doesn't have any attachment to you. There's no reason whatsoever for him to make this change that goes against the game's plot, just to appease you.
 

MagicMan753

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You realise you just said "If you can't change the name, add an ability to essentially choose your name", right? :LOL:

This is just something you're going to have to live with. Your two options are:
1. Deal with it. If, as you say, you've played it. You can merrily go onwards now with whatever name you please.
2. Forget about it and go play one of the multitudinous games that allows you to pick your own name at the start.

I guess, to quote back at you, the dev doesn't have any attachment to you. There's no reason whatsoever for him to make this change that goes against the game's plot, just to appease you.
Yes give me an option for a temporary name, I don't want Vincent. Basically a temporary name, till the name change at least. I don't think its unreasonable, cause the one thing I want is this to be my story, which as of right now, it will never be that without any customation. So i will continue to gripe and moan, while I am forced to play as Vincent.

Like I said at least let me have a temp name, I go by multiple names in real life, so it would solve everything, even if I have to change the name later.

Also he already went against the plot. The name change was never planned. He told me, but people asking for changed it, so why can't he make this one little change, then I will never gripe in this thread again, until then, I'll be around.
 

TonyMurray

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Yes give me an option for a temporary name, I don't want Vincent. Basically a temporary name, till the name change at least. I don't think its unreasonable, cause the one thing I want is this to be my story, which as of right now, it will never be that without any customation. So i will continue to gripe and moan, while I am forced to play as Vincent.

Like I said at least let me have a temp name, I go by multiple names in real life, so it would solve everything, even if I have to change the name later.

Also he already went against the plot. The name change was never planned. He told me, but people asking for changed it, so why can't he make this one little change, then I will never gripe in this thread again, until then, I'll be around.
Did he actually say to you it was never planned to be added? Way back in the early posts of the thread (page 2) he said:
Character name change will be available, but in later updates.
I'm not going to bother saying anything more about it, and you should consider doing the same. The dev has no reason to change what he's doing, so you're fighting a losing battle.
 

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I'm just putting together my character cards for this game. I don't know what it is about Sophia, but I just really like her. Am I the only one? Doc is really pretty too, I hope we get her name at some point...
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MagicMan753

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Did he actually say to you it was never planned to be added? Way back in the early posts of the thread (page 2) he said:

I'm not going to bother saying anything more about it, and you should consider doing the same. The dev has no reason to change what he's doing, so you're fighting a losing battle.
He told me in the dms on this site, it was never meant to be allowed, it was just supposed to be about Vincent. After complaints he changed it. It was clarified in the Dms, I can post a pic later if you want, can't screeshot it, cause of website rules.

If he changed this, I just want a temp name for beginning, until name change. I don't wnat Vincent, so I will persist regardless, might even be a little nicer in review.
 

Frxnz

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The name change was mentioned even after the prologue was released. I specifically stated that it will be implemented in the future. I have absolutely no understanding why this childish whining has been going on for two days now. Nobody cares as much as possible about your desires, who you want to be, how many names you have in your life. For the last time I'm going back to your useless posts and the posts of those who are not smart enough to understand one simple thing - changing character name at the very beginning of the game will never be implemented, because it's impossible on the level of the story. One more thing: it's not your story, it's not about you, it doesn't concern you and it never will. I don't owe you anything and you are of absolutely no importance to me, so absolutely all your wasted letters are meaningless. Let's end on that wonderful note, good luck
 

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Please don't listen to these people who want to ask you to put things inside the game. I had a game that I really liked and it was abandoned because a guy threatened the developer if he didn't put ntr in the game he would expose his personal data. I really love this game and I don't want it to be abandoned (Detective Necro)
 
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Frxnz

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Please don't listen to these people who want to ask you to put things inside the game. I had a game that I really liked and it was abandoned because a guy threatened the developer if he didn't put ntr in the game he would expose his personal data. I really love this game and I don't want it to be abandoned (Detective Necro)
You don't have to worry about that, stopping development is out of the question
 

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It would be very interesting to look at all the cards if possible
Here's my post with them in. I only include girls who are given names in the game (Doc is a slight exception, but it's given as the name she wishes me to know her by, so I've gone with it).
The Scheme of Betrayal by Fronz

I played this game a little while back and thought it looked fantastic, but it had some language issues, with Russian dialogue left in the game on a few occasions. Now the new update (0.3) has been released, I gave it another go from the start and I’m pleased to say those issues have been resolved (except for one that the dev is going to sort out).

This is definitely a slow burn game. It’s not one to go for (at the moment at least) if you’re looking for lots of nudes and sex scenes. So far, there are two sex scenes and a small number of additional nudes, but those are mostly nip slips rather than anything more intentional. I didn’t actually like the sex scenes that much – the animation looked a little weird on the blowjob in the second of these, and neither scene was that long.

That aside though, the girls are great – or at least, they look great. A couple of them are definitely of questionable character, but I guess that’s in the name of the game. The story is a bit slow in places, and I would say too slow sometimes. Dealing with an MC with amnesia can be a bit problematic, but here I don’t think it was handled brilliantly, with some odd dialogue and choices made by all.

So far, it’s not my favourite story, but depending on how the next couple of updates go, it could turn out to be a good one. There’s definitely potential there, if the dev can reach it. At the moment though, it’s definitely the girls who carry this game, and so long as we see more of them (a lot more, in some cases), I’m okay with that for the time being.
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And the card collection:
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Finished my playthrough now, and although there were some parts (perhaps too many parts) that I thought were a bit slow, I enjoyed it overall. The graphics look great, and there are some really nice women here that I hope we get to see plenty more of. The story definitely has me intrigued!

When I played the previous update, I did notice a fair few technical errors in the writing, with some Russian remaining in the dialogue and Laura's name being changed to "Lora" a few times, with one exception that I found (in the spoilers) these have been taken care of now. There are still a few typos here and there, and some funny little translation mishaps, but otherwise it's mostly fine in that sense now.

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Dry-Cleaning must be a 'where you're from' thing. We have the interiors of cars either dry-cleaned or steam-cleaned. Valeted would mean that someone parked the car for us.
 
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