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Just to get this out of the way, I, for the most part, have enjoyed what the game has offered with the exception being the furniture arrangement mini-game and maybe the overuse of transition animations.

Now, as for the following: Aorrta, why does the Protagonist/MC look like a 12-year-old kid? By far, he (MC) is the smallest and youngest looking character among the cast of your game. I am only raising this question because sooner or later Patreon will catch a whiff of this and due to the somewhat realistic nature of the Daz model in question (MC), they will demand that you change his pre-pubescent appearance or they might outright suspend your account.

P.S: In the past, the issue of using young-looking characters has already troubled other Devs in Patreon.
 
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Aorrta

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Just to get this out of the way, I, for the most part, have enjoyed what the game has offered with the exception being the furniture arrangement mini-game and maybe the overuse of transition animations.

Now, as for the following: Aorrta, why does the Protagonist/MC look like a 12-year-old kid? By far, he (MC) is the smallest and youngest looking character among the cast of your game. I am only raising this question because sooner or later Patreon will catch a whiff of this and due to the somewhat realistic nature of the Daz model in question (MC), they will demand that you change his pre-pubescent appearance or they might outright suspend your account.

P.S: In the past, the issue of using young-looking characters has already troubled other Devs in Patreon.
The protagonist’s model is made on the basis of an adult man with a reduced scale. I specifically did not give an exact age in the dialogs and only on the working computer is there information about his age.
In the story, he is 16. If the patreon suspends my page, I will try to prove to them that he looks at 18.
Well, and his height? Not everyone can be tall handsome, right?
Personally for me it was interesting that he was smaller than the rest. To feel that those whom he fucks are adult women. That suck a teen dick.
I will do a survey on my page. Make the main character higher or leave it as it is. We'll see.
 
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The protagonist’s model is made on the basis of an adult man with a reduced scale. I specifically did not give an exact age in the dialogues and only on the working computer is there information about his age.
In the story, he is 16. If the Patreon suspends my page, I will try to prove to them that he looks like an 18-year-old guy.
Well, and his height? Not everyone can be tall and handsome, right?
Personally, for me, it was interesting that he was smaller than the rest. To feel that those whom he fucks are adult women. That suck a teen dick.
I will do a survey on my page. Make the main character higher or leave it as it is. We'll see.
Thanks for answering.
 

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1. Renders are top notch.

2. Story is passable, nothing great, but you can always improve it, work on it.

3. English.

For example, English isn't my native language but I think it's pretty good and even I have noticed alot of mistakes and typos in the game. This needs to be looked over and fixed.

4. Animations.

Animations started great, intro itself, plane sequence animation etc, I really felt like this game, regarding quality is on the "next level", on pair with some other high quality VN's. That was until the first and second sex scene occurred, then I was disappointed. It seemed to me like one person did one part of the animations very good and the second person did the sex scenes "animations" if we can call them animations.

The point is, if you start something at one level, keep it that way. Sex scenes looked like 3-4 renders blended together with 1-2 seconds apart in order to imitate an animation, which was a bad decision. If those scenes had real animations like the intro etc, it would have been mind blowing for everyone I'm sure.

Don't take my post as criticism, take it as an advice/suggestion and build upon it.
Also, don't hurry with the mom sex scenes, make that as an endgame, the ultimate goal for the players.
A little bit of teasing here and there would be an excellent build up for the "main event".
 
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The protagonist’s model is made on the basis of an adult man with a reduced scale. I specifically did not give an exact age in the dialogs and only on the working computer is there information about his age.
In the story, he is 16. If the patreon suspends my page, I will try to prove to them that he looks at 18.
Well, and his height? Not everyone can be tall handsome, right?
Personally for me it was interesting that he was smaller than the rest. To feel that those whom he fucks are adult women. That suck a teen dick.
I will do a survey on my page. Make the main character higher or leave it as it is. We'll see.
1. even if the MC is 16 years old in your story he is still looking like an 12 year old boy and he is still underage even with 16 and he is working in an company with Adult Buisness??? Really now???. you want the players to play with an UNDERAGE MC in a porn game?? you serious???
have you EVER seen an UNDERAGE Actor/Protagonist/ MC in an Porn Movie/Game/Comic or whatever has adult content?????
dude that is gonna backfire at you sooner or later overthink that.

2. you go try to prove to pantreon that he looks 18 before you do go ask other devs that had that problem if they where successful in proving that their character is old enough.

3.i tell you that pantreon does not give a shit what you will say they will look at your character models and they will FORCE you to change it or your account will be suspended or deleted.

believe me it will be only a matter of time before your Pantreon account will be shut down either because of the character models or the incest part that will be coming when you will leave your story and the MC like it is now.
 
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Hello everyone.

I read all 28 pages. Thanks for the feedback and for the criticism.
I tried hard on the new version. Yes, it has bugs, bad English, no sex scenes with mom.

Someone wrote that I need a new TV or a new sofa, no, thanks, I have it.
I warned my patrons that I needed a long break, so I advised them to unsubscribe or switch to one dollar.
I do not want to milk anyone.
The fact that the game is available only for potrons is a sign of respect to those who supported me all this time, although I did not even go to the page.

I had problems with my family, then I had a medical operation, because of which I could not take up the game for a long time.
I did not add a sex scene with mom, because it seemed to me that it would be too fast. In the next update I will add sex scenes with her.
The plans to make animation, I will try not to do this too long.

A native speaker is already working on translation and adaptation. As soon as he finishes, I will release the fix.
Someone didn’t like the video, I'm sorry but I really like them. This is the same part of the game as the music.

Write what you want to see in the following updates.
I'm really curious.

Thank you and sorry for my English.
People have their own agenda on this site, I can see that now. Fanboys from other game threads love to crap on other devs. I see it a lot, so be careful what you call "criticism" on this site.
 
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Bahamut Zero

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Hello everyone.

I read all 28 pages. Thanks for the feedback and for the criticism.
I tried hard on the new version. Yes, it has bugs, bad English, no sex scenes with mom.

Someone wrote that I need a new TV or a new sofa, no, thanks, I have it.
I warned my patrons that I needed a long break, so I advised them to unsubscribe or switch to one dollar.
I do not want to milk anyone.
The fact that the game is available only for potrons is a sign of respect to those who supported me all this time, although I did not even go to the page.

I had problems with my family, then I had a medical operation, because of which I could not take up the game for a long time.
I did not add a sex scene with mom, because it seemed to me that it would be too fast. In the next update I will add sex scenes with her.
The plans to make animation, I will try not to do this too long.

A native speaker is already working on translation and adaptation. As soon as he finishes, I will release the fix.
Someone didn’t like the video, I'm sorry but I really like them. This is the same part of the game as the music.

Write what you want to see in the following updates.
I'm really curious.

Thank you and sorry for my English.
Man... I'm really glad you came back. I follow you game till day one. Yeah the game had imperfections, but it wasn't a problem for me. I hope you make the best use of the system choices this time. The only real problem for me with this game, was the MC character. At the start of the game, the MC seemed a much tougher type. Then without any reason, after the flight by plane, his personality changes in a truly drastic way. I hope to see this personality come back again. Because is better to have an alpha MC then a Beta who is afraid of everything. If someone tries to oppress me I don't remain impassive. I hope the MC is not a passive guy who is afraid of facing someone. Anyway give us choice in game.

Thank you
 
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happyv

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1. Renders are top notch.

2. Story is passable, nothing great, but you can always improve it, work on it.

3. English.

For example, English isn't my native language but I think it's pretty good and even I have noticed alot of mistakes and typos in the game. This needs to be looked over and fixed.

4. Animations.

Animations started great, intro itself, plane sequence animation etc, I really felt like this game, regarding quality is on the "next level", on pair with some other high quality VN's. That was until the first and second sex scene occurred, then I was disappointed. It seemed to me like one person did one part of the animations very good and the second person did the sex scenes "animations" if we can call them animations.

The point is, if you start something at one level, keep it that way. Sex scenes looked like 3-4 renders blended together with 1-2 seconds apart in order to imitate an animation, which was a bad decision. If those scenes had real animations like the intro etc, it would have been mind blowing for everyone I'm sure.

Don't take my post as criticism, take it as an advice/suggestion and build upon it.
Also, don't hurry with the mom sex scenes, make that as an endgame, the ultimate goal for the players.
A little bit of teasing here and there would be an excellent build up for the "main event".
I quite agree with your suggestion on animation.
The whole work is first-class, but the sex animation directly lowered the score. It would be perfect to have the level of opening animation. This English passage is machine translated
 

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This translator used google translate and gave me the files, I don’t think I had to pay him $ 600 for what I could do myself.
He broke the agreement.
Do u hv the prove that shows it?, saying he used google translator without a prove and u refuse to pay him cause i know u took the all the translation files and u blocked him, i know he did his job (even if did use translator) u kept asking for more and more translations (if u knew he was using translator why keep asking for more) and everytime the guy asked u for the money of the translation u kept giving excuse and asking him for more translations and promise of payment, u even showed him a print of how much u recieved that month and u blocked him after, makes me wonder cause u hv a history of scam so im not really trusting u on this one.

He gave me his history detailed where u guys met etc, he even provided me with the translation files, if he did use google u should hv stopped right there one the first one and go hunt another translator but u didnt (suspicious), If u hv a good story to prove anything its time to do so.
(Good to know u started to be active has a dev going around answering stuff, if u are being honest now with the game etc its time to redeem urself and keep develop, i just hope u dont make the same mistake u made last time.)
 
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happyv

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Wow, I'm so happy to finally see aorrta here.
Suggestions for the game:
1.Sex animation can do better.
2.I hope Mary has some silk stockings.
3.Stick to making games,Stick to making games,Stick to making games……
Thank you, Aorrta.
 

Aorrta

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Do u hv the prove that shows it?, saying he used google translator without a prove and u refuse to pay him cause i know u took the all the translation files and u blocked him, i know he did his job (even if did use translator) u kept asking for more and more translations (if u knew he was using translator why keep asking for more) and everytime the guy asked u for the money of the translation u kept giving excuse and asking him for more translations and promise of payment, u even showed him a print of how much u recieved that month and u blocked him after, makes me wonder cause u hv a history of scam so im not really trusting u on this one.

He gave me his history detailed where u guys met etc, he even provided me with the translation files, if he did use google u should hv stopped right there one the first one and go hunt another translator but u didnt (suspicious), If u hv a good story to prove anything its time to do so.
(Good to know u started to be active has a dev going around answering stuff, if u are being honest now with the game etc its time to redeem urself and keep develop, i just hope u dont make the same mistake u made last time.)
What are you talking about?
I paid him for his work. I paid even when he simply asked for money to pay for his apartment.
He made a translation of the messages to the patreon. In the final amount, I paid him $ 240.
Then I asked to translate it for most of the game. In the end, he just made the whole translation in google translate.
My only mistake was that I did not speak out to him at that time and blocked him. But I won’t pay a scammer who does his translate through Google!
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Thank you Aorrta for game) release was great) BUT WE NEED MOOOOOOOORE! ^___^ and yeah im already your basic supporter on Patreon, it's not so much, but again thx for game)
 
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Aorrta

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Thank you Aorrta for game) release was great) BUT WE NEED MOOOOOOOORE! ^___^ and yeah im already your basic supporter on Patreon, it's not so much, but again thx for game)
Thanks a lot!
 

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What are you talking about?
I paid him for his work. I paid even when he simply asked for money to pay for his apartment.
He made a translation of the messages to the patreon. In the final amount, I paid him $ 240.
Then I asked to translate it for most of the game. In the end, he just made the whole translation in google translate.
My only mistake was that I did not speak out to him at that time and blocked him. But I won’t pay a scammer who does his translate through Google!
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(its hard for me to trust u but im gonna do a bit struggle here)
U saw him on ur patreon talking about how u didnt pay him a dime and still u didnt say a word or justify anything, u could hv sayed a word and stopped it giving a proof and yet u didnt, he actually went and provide the translation files to the people who wanted it, i got the email cause i wanted to see his version of the story and he sended to me with the files and a preview of a certain amount u made, but i didnt care much to check the translation file, if he is really lying its fck up thing from that person. (if u want i can dm u the full email he sended to me)

I understand u wanting a person to translate word by word but its hard to do it (specialy from russian to english (i think its the translation u wanted)) and alot of translators all over the world (even AAA companys) use google or other websites sometimes to be sure of certain translations, if u got the feeling of being scammed its good for u to see abit how ur patreons 2 years ago felt when u scammed us (i was ur patreon back then) and u disappeared without a word and comeback in march with false promise of a release and again u gone and then year later u drop this kinda of an new game that has barely anything to get excited for.

I do hope u get this game running correctly this time, cause back then this game was a good promise of a game and u fck up by scamming, so now u have alot to do so try to get ur head straight and dont commit the same mistakes twice.
(Im gonna watch how the devolopment is going from now on, I hope it successed this time, but im not gonna support u in anyway cause i felt betrayed and scammed)
 

Aorrta

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(its hard for me to trust u but im gonna do a bit struggle here)
U saw him on ur patreon talking about how u didnt pay him a dime and still u didnt say a word or justify anything, u could hv sayed a word and stopped it giving a proof and yet u didnt, he actually went and provide the translation files to the people who wanted it, i got the email cause i wanted to see his version of the story and he sended to me with the files and a preview of a certain amount u made, but i didnt care much to check the translation file, if he is really lying its fck up thing from that person. (if u want i can dm u the full email he sended to me)

I understand u wanting a person to translate word by word but its hard to do it (specialy from russian to english (i think its the translation u wanted)) and alot of translators all over the world (even AAA companys) use google or other websites sometimes to be sure of certain translations, if u got the feeling of being scammed its good for u to see abit how ur patreons 2 years ago felt when u scammed us (i was ur patreon back then) and u disappeared without a word and comeback in march with false promise of a release and again u gone and then year later u drop this kinda of an new game that has barely anything to get excited for.

I do hope u get this game running correctly this time, cause back then this game was a good promise of a game and u fck up by scamming, so now u have alot to do so try to get ur head straight and dont commit the same mistakes twice.
(Im gonna watch how the devolopment is going from now on, I hope it successed this time, but im not gonna support u in anyway cause i felt betrayed and scammed)
If you were my patron, you saw my post where I asked to switch to a one-dollar subscription or to unsubscribe at all until better times.
I work alone. The translator asked for a large amount and promised me a good translation, saying that it is almost native (or something like that). I honestly paid him until he just sent me a file that he didn’t even edit, but simply put it in Google and said that he wants $ 600 for it.
Yes, the fact that I left the patron and for a long time did not write anything is bad. But in my life there were difficult moments. At such moments, you are not up to patron and porn games.
 

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If you were my patron, you saw my post where I asked to switch to a one-dollar subscription or to unsubscribe at all until better times.
I work alone. The translator asked for a large amount and promised me a good translation, saying that it is almost native (or something like that). I honestly paid him until he just sent me a file that he didn’t even edit, but simply put it in Google and said that he wants $ 600 for it.
Yes, the fact that I left the patron and for a long time did not write anything is bad. But in my life there were difficult moments. At such moments, you are not up to patron and porn games.
From me u wont be getting any more hate or wars here, doesnt mean i trust u, but i since its all figure it out, lets forget about this shit, i do hope u get this freaking game on the road u hv everything to successed dont let it go down again, a suggestion make animations that is what people being asking alot and try interact more with the community here and patreon cause communication is a must needed in any development, the major problem u hv right now is earning the community trust again.
With this good luck on ur journey, im out.
 

Aorrta

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From me u wont be getting any more hate or wars here, doesnt mean i trust u, but i since its all figure it out, lets forget about this shit, i do hope u get this freaking game on the road u hv everything to successed dont let it go down again, a suggestion make animations that is what people being asking alot and try interact more with the community here and patreon cause communication is a must needed in any development, the major problem u hv right now is earning the community trust again.
With this good luck on ur journey, im out.
Thanks. Good luck!
 
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Seeing this i really hope the world system goes like this always, because if not , things will start to get so much bad, the first ,m simple, and best example is this porn games

everybody doing porn games and getting money, then the creators stop doing it, get the money and nobody do nothing, no legal problems with the law, no judges against a tribunal, nothing, only words, anarchy is this, thank goddness we have something different in the world if not we would not have survived. fucking lazy ass crying about ppl mad at him
 
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