HTML Abandoned The Shadows of Friendships [v0.4] [VERSTA GAMES]

[Virgile85]

Can mc have gf in game???I increased my relationship with girls but no gf???

 

[themagiman]

This thread went kind of quiet is the dev active?

 

[dexter069]

change vero to valentina nappi. and make luca black or add someone

 

[dingo4life]

This thread went kind of quiet is the dev active?

The Dev said they were gonna release an update on Saturday and then went radio silent and that was 3 weeks ago and I think they were already running late from their usual schedule at that point, so considering this game is so early in development people don't really have a lot to talk about and are frankly kinda used to games being dropped before 0.5, so they are likely just waiting to see what happens.

 

[Versta]

Guys!

I sincerely apologize.

I was using an old computer to develop the game (I don't like to have pornographic stuff on my work computer) and the disk got screwed up.

The problem was that I lost all the progress of version 0.4, I had made a lot of progress, and I felt really demotivated because it is difficult for me to make significant progress considering that I work many hours a day on something else.

Tbh at that moment I lost the desire to continue with the game and I took a break.

But a few days ago, I decided to make the "effort" (actually, to fight against my laziness and demotivation to do it all over again), thinking about those interested in the game. And I started to reprogram all the 0.4 version I lost, downloading the 0.3 version and programming it from my work computer. Now i'll save everything in the cloud or github.

VERSION 0.4

It will be ready next week (maybe tuesday or wednesday). Currently I already added the option that the character can have any character as a girlfriend. And also a dynamic dating system, with dynamic sex included.

In the lost version I had also added a new country and a new business system. I will try to do it again but honestly it is difficult to download all the resources again, edit them, and so on. But I will do my best since at least the business system will be important to add new possibilities to the game.


THANKS!!!

 

[Versta]

Can mc have gf in game???I increased my relationship with girls but no gf???

Next week! i'm developing that.

- Characters can get engaged to each other (ex. Isaac & Vero/Martina or any girl single. But they must have a very good relationship and desire).
- You can make these relationships end if you manipulate well.
- You can ask any female character to be your girlfriend.
- You will be able to date your girlfriend and have dynamic and exclusive sex scenes.

The girlfriend system will have to have certain factors that I am still thinking and designing. There must be some way for your girlfriend to get angry, jealous or decide to be unfaithful, but also easily avoidable. I accept suggestions

change vero to valentina nappi. and make luca black or add someone

I have to add someone. The characters are already based somehow on a personal story, so I have to keep them that way with their appearances

 

[dexter069]

well i messed with the HTMl file and saw you are using 1-12 scene randomly picking 2 where there is option for individual characters. you can set certain scene that only occurs with certain individual say like Gym scene with Luca. so i changed some scenes that i made and some things here and there..

while you are here things where things needed some work if you have time.
- add a stable job
- Mc or NPCs getting drunk at pub.
- Pub games. (not PUBG )
- ask someone/ GF to come to MC's house.
- 10 sec videos or gifs are fine.
- Npc watching Npc having sex and getting aroused in.
- Npc gatherings you get a message/invitation to join.
- add scenes that contain more than 2 peoples.
- actions like reading book with someone is not spam proof.
- grocery store
- phone system is great but doesn't switch to sender.

great work with the NPC system love it. looking forward to the next update.

 

[Versta]

well i messed with the HTMl file and saw you are using 1-12 scene randomly picking 2 where there is option for individual characters. you can set certain scene that only occurs with certain individual say like Gym scene with Luca. so i changed some scenes that i made and some things here and there..

while you are here things where things needed some work if you have time.
- add a stable job
- Mc or NPCs getting drunk at pub.
- Pub games. (not PUBG )
- ask someone/ GF to come to MC's house.
- 10 sec videos or gifs are fine.
- Npc watching Npc having sex and getting aroused in.
- Npc gatherings you get a message/invitation to join.
- add scenes that contain more than 2 peoples.
- actions like reading book with someone is not spam proof.
- grocery store
- phone system is great but doesn't switch to sender.

great work with the NPC system love it. looking forward to the next update.

THANKS for your suggestions!!

I'm sorry you saw my code. It's horrible! but it works, hehe.

Yes, that 1-12 scene system is very precarious and temporary. My intention is to get things working, and before we get to version 1.0 (in a few months), customize ALL the systems so that each "experience" between characters is different. I don't like generic things - so yes, there will be custom scenes with Luca in the gym

ABOUT THE OTHER POINTS MENTIONED ABOVE

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Preview: dynamic sex ( in dates with any girlfriend of MC ) ready!


Version 0.4 possibly ready on Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday. Currently there are already +100 new scenes and there is the dynamic dating system with each girl. but I would like to add more things before that release

 

[Versta]

Hi guys, hope you are well.

I wanted to tell you that I uploaded version 0.4 in test mode to the discord channel. Soon it will be available here too (today or tomorrow), first I want to make sure it has no bugs, so you can have a quiet gameplay.

It was a difficult update, having to reprogram things already done and lost was complicated. Next updates will be better and with more content.

For now:
- Just added the possibility for NPCs to change girlfriends and even you can propose to any girl to be your girlfriend. If one of the girls becomes your girlfriend, you will be able to ask her out and fuck her in a motel with new dynamic scenes. This still needs a lot of work on the dating part, to make it more dynamic and with different situations.

- I added a business system. Now the MC can open his car repair shop or a sexshop. Each type of business unlocks a new character (so 2 new female characters available). I recommend trying both. Businesses are a good way to get passive income, since you receive money every day at 23hs. I would like to hear suggestions on what type of business you would like to be able to have. Soon there will be news on the management of them, obviously without complicating the gameplay. everything will be easy, the idea is not to have a lot of grinding in the secondary parts.

In total, there are +137 new scenes and the size of the game increased from 700 megabytes to 1.1gb, already compressed. This update is very important, it will allow me to add much more content in the next ones.

About version 0.5 : I start its development this weekend. I have a very good idea, stay tuned

Thanks!

 

[Virgile85]

Hi guys, hope you are well.

I wanted to tell you that I uploaded version 0.4 in test mode to the discord channel. Soon it will be available here too (today or tomorrow), first I want to make sure it has no bugs, so you can have a quiet gameplay.

It was a difficult update, having to reprogram things already done and lost was complicated. Next updates will be better and with more content.

For now:
- Just added the possibility for NPCs to change girlfriends and even you can propose to any girl to be your girlfriend. If one of the girls becomes your girlfriend, you will be able to ask her out and fuck her in a motel with new dynamic scenes. This still needs a lot of work on the dating part, to make it more dynamic and with different situations.

- I added a business system. Now the MC can open his car repair shop or a sexshop. Each type of business unlocks a new character (so 2 new female characters available). I recommend trying both. Businesses are a good way to get passive income, since you receive money every day at 23hs. I would like to hear suggestions on what type of business you would like to be able to have. Soon there will be news on the management of them, obviously without complicating the gameplay. everything will be easy, the idea is not to have a lot of grinding in the secondary parts.

In total, there are +137 new scenes and the size of the game increased from 700 megabytes to 1.1gb, already compressed. This update is very important, it will allow me to add much more content in the next ones.

About version 0.5 : I start its development this weekend. I have a very good idea, stay tuned

Thanks!

Thx bro.your game is one of the best games.

 

[fikka]

I don't like NTR and in the game it seems is somewhat forced.
I can't tell if in 0.3 relationship is added, but what I can tell that the NPC cheat each other and it feels like there is no real relationship at all.
When I played, I did see how the NPC cheated with each other every day. It feels somewhat they don't care at all.
I don't know exactly when they start cheating each other relationship-point/lust-points around 100 maybe?
I mean if relationship is being added and the player has the option to go into a relationship, will the NPC cheat instead going to the player and ask for sex.
NTR will probally not be removed but forcing player into NTR is also not right, than it could be maybe like this, if the player keeps rejecting the relationship on purpose multiple times in a row maybe than bad events could be happen, of course there could be always the possibility reverse the bad events by not rejecting the relationship.
Normally the NPC should go to the partner before it's start cheating, only if the partner reject the partner in relationship multiple times in row, than bad events happen.
Also NTR is very boring, it always the same story.The male character in the game has always a small one while the other have a bigger one and women are treated like objects.
That women are treated like a object bothers me a lot.

I'll try and keep my comments short but that was a great summary and hopefully the developer can address some of the things you mention. Regarding the NTR, I'm no fan of cucking too but Netori (stealing other guy's girl) seems fun. I mean if Luca or Jason is a cheater or a creep is it really that bad to show his gf a good time. Also, you mention about certain cases where cheating seems justified but that cant solely be giving 15 mins of sex to the said partner while trying to spend hours at gym/park etc. with other girls trying to seduce them. This to be honest is rather more tricky since one of the goals of such games is to score with as many possible partners. This could also go like Incubus City route where based on girls one scores you get different endings and then for the next run when you play as a male or female, you face the same characters but they are tweaked by the previous experiences (eg. you face a Luca who is more cunning or maybe who is more loyal to his gf, making it much harder to steal his gf, etc.). That would definitely make playing this game again and again always a unique experience.

 

[Virgile85]

I played this game few weeks ago and I want to tell my opinion about this game(at least what's appears to be and there is not so much content right now so I can't really tell so much) and I have few questions and suggestions, if it's okay.

This is based on 0.3 version.

1.
Before I go to the next point.
Will you add a female main character?
Adding a female main character would be much more enjoyable.
Adding a female character for the female audience would be nice, I wouldn't mind if the image/videos/gif are same, only the text need to be changed.
I mean the female characters in the game have also stats, what is the point for them to leveling their stats?

2.
The first thing I like about the game is, it's appears not to be linear like many other games for example have fitness at number x and be at x'clock at the gym to trigger a scene.
This system is much more better and like a real sandbox game, other games with sandbox feature feels very linear like jump scene to scene and the player has always meet a certain stats/relationship-points/location to progress in the game to trigger scene and it's feels like boring.

3.
I like what I read about the job system, it appears that you plan to add more jobs and even opening own business.
I hope this will have more content.

4.
I also like traveling feature, I also hope there will be more content and you will travel with someone together.

5.
The most important thing for me is the relationship system and stats system.
I like that the stats and relationship system appears to be dynamic.
Leveling up the stats and climbing up the social ranks is a nice feature.
I hope you will add how the people will react, depending on your stats.
If you level your stats far higher than the other characters, you should be feel like you are on the top of the social ladder in the game.
Stats should really play a important aspect in dialogue, sex and activities, so in everything basically.
I also hope you will add marriage and pregnancy(getting pregnant if you add female main character) in the game.
I have more to tell about at point 7 and 8.

6.
I am sorry to tell you, I don't like the sex system/scene.
The videos are way to long and after you did see them 1 time you not gonna watch it again.
What also bothers me is for example, you given a girl a portrait from a porn star and now you only trying to find a scene with this porn star that you given to that girl as portrait.
This reduce the possibility to create more scenes, using gif and text would be better, even if the girl in the gif is not the same.
I think using more text and gif is better, there are more and better scenes with gif than porn stars videos and with the combination of gif and text you actually can create the scenario you want.
Using porn stars in scenes feels like all others games, I mean porn is boring, let me explain this before somebody tells me this is a porn game.
All porn stars are the same, fake moaning, stupid positions^^ and most them faking the pleasure they get.
It's like a boring classic action movie, if you watched one you did see them all.
I think you should focus more on gif and text, this allows you to create your own scenarios and story. If you use a video, you actually handicap yourself, I realized that you adapt/adjust what is happening in the video and it's feels like you are only describing what is happening in a video and trying to make a scenario out of it ,it's gives you little freedom.
The writing of the scenarios are really weak and like I said it feels like that you are only describing what in the videos is happening and then you try make a context, I think you should really write first the scenario and then add image/gif and making a context with a gif is much easier without destroying the scenario.

7.
There is another thing that also I don't like, but before I tell please I don't want to be insulted by a aggressive cuckold.
I often see how cuckold people get aggressive when somebody tells that they don't like NTR.
This is a forum and people should be able to say that they don't like NTR without being attacked and insulted.
I often did see in the forums if somebody ask for example is NTR avoidable, the cuckold people get aggressive and insult them.
Okay now back to the topic.
-
I don't like NTR and in the game it seems is somewhat forced.
I can't tell if in 0.3 relationship is added, but what I can tell that the NPC cheat each other and it feels like there is no real relationship at all.
When I played, I did see how the NPC cheated with each other every day. It feels somewhat they don't care at all.
I don't know exactly when they start cheating each other relationship-point/lust-points around 100 maybe?
I mean if relationship is being added and the player has the option to go into a relationship, will the NPC cheat instead going to the player and ask for sex.
NTR will probally not be removed but forcing player into NTR is also not right, than it could be maybe like this, if the player keeps rejecting the relationship on purpose multiple times in a row maybe than bad events could be happen, of course there could be always the possibility reverse the bad events by not rejecting the relationship.
Normally the NPC should go to the partner before it's start cheating, only if the partner reject the partner in relationship multiple times in row, than bad events happen.
Also NTR is very boring, it always the same story.The male character in the game has always a small one while the other have a bigger one and women are treated like objects.
That women are treated like a object bothers me a lot.

8.
I don't know what kind of NTR is in this game and I dislike and hate NTR and I hope it will be not forced, but stats should be play a big role if cheating happens, for example: A character has higher stats but the relationship cheats on him, than the relationship should regret the cheating on male main character and maybe say something "It was not worth" or "my relationship partner is much better than you and regret for cheating".
And the relationship should confess if it's regret the cheating and do should never cheat again if the relationship forgive.

9.
I forgot which names of the characters belongs to which character, it is few weeks ago that I played the game.
Different characters should have different personality.
Some character should really never cheat if they have the personality "loyal".
I think the best character would be for that personality "loyal" the girl that also got cheated from her boyfriend in the beginn of the game story.
And if you add a female main character, maybe playing as the girl that also got cheated would be nice and then the male main character became a dateable option and the male character has the loyal personality.
It would be nice if this game has real romance and love option and i hope that relationship-love-points are important in this game.

10.
Here is a suggestion, it would also make relevant to improve other characters stats for this scenario and it shows what kind of effect stats have.
I hate NTR and cheating, but taking revenge on the cheaters would be so satisfying, I hope you add the female character as main character that got cheated.
I love to play as her and take my revenge on the boyfriend, the first thing I would do is to level my stats very high up to make me the most desirable character and skilled character and the boyfriend will regret that he cheated on in the past and he will see the other woman that he cheated with like a cheap person.
Then making him fall in love and making him feel like the luckiest guy in the world.
Meanwhile I improve secretly the stats of that male character that also got cheated in the beginning of the game and making him to better than the boyfriend by training his stats via quests and activities.
And then calling the boyfriend to the house and telling him that I want spend time with him and invite him to the bedroom.
When the boyfriend enters the bedroom, I lock the door with the key.
The male character that also got cheated appears from a corner he starts himself undressing naked.
The boyfriend will be confused and starts to yell in a angry voice "Stop it what are you idiot this is not your bedroom, this is my girlfriends bedroom, get out of here"
The male character will ignore him and continue undressing himself naked.
Boyfriend wants to stop the male character, but because I helped the male character and did quests and activies together with the male character, the stats are multiple times are higher than the boyfriend and he will not dare to start a fight.
-
(depending on stats of characters, for example having significant higher fitness makes for other NPC visible if someone is physically stronger and they will not attack the other character, if the male character would have same level fitness there would be a high chance to attack, if the male character would have significant lower fitness the boyfriend would attack the male character in the scenario.)
-
The male character starts to position himself behind me and undress me right in front of the boyfriend and slowly undressing me naked.
The boyfriend is looking with wide open shocked eyes, he his angry and desperate and start hitting against the wall with his fist but he can't do anything and he knows what gonna happen next.
The male character starts to now touching my breasts from behind and place his dick between my legs and I rub myself on his dick on my vaginal entrance.
The boyfriend life is devastated, after I made him fall in love with me, now seeing him that I am with the male character naked and his dick rubbing between my legs, right in front of the boyfriends eyes.
The boyfriend beg to stop it "Please stop it! You can't do this to me, I get it, I am sorry that I cheated on you in the past." he cries.
I feel not sorry for him and I just stare at him coldly.
The male character grabs me and pushes me carefully to the bed.
I position myself into doggystyle position and I face the boyfriend without talking.
The male character positions behind me and slowly enters my pussy, he starts to move with his hips and fucks my pussy, the only sound that can be only heard right now in the room is the sound of the dick that hits my pussy and the pathetic crying boyfriend that cheated.
I beginn to moan and the male character increase his speed of his thrust, in fast deep motion.
The male character grunts and start to talk "I slowly reaching my limit [female main character name] I am about to cum."
I move my head little bit closer to the boyfriend and say to him in a cold whispering voice "I am not on the pill and I will let him cum inside me, because he loves me and would never cheat on me"
The boyfriend or let's better say ex-boyfriend is speechless and do not know what to say.
-
So on and so on both took their revenge. When they did not die, they live happily together(expect for the stupid cheating boyfriend). You get what I mean, my english is not my first language and I don't want to write a whole story ^^ and also I had to cut off many details of the story because the story would be to long for this single scene and I probally made many writing and grammatic mistake.

Bro for the NTR part there is a big NTR tag.so don't expect people be kind to you when you say you don't like NTR in a NTR game.cuz you don't see NTR fan come in other vanilla games and say where is NTR.they face insults there too.

 

[Virgile85]

I'll try and keep my comments short but that was a great summary and hopefully the developer can address some of the things you mention. Regarding the NTR, I'm no fan of cucking too but Netori (stealing other guy's girl) seems fun. I mean if Luca or Jason is a cheater or a creep is it really that bad to show his gf a good time. Also, you mention about certain cases where cheating seems justified but that cant solely be giving 15 mins of sex to the said partner while trying to spend hours at gym/park etc. with other girls trying to seduce them. This to be honest is rather more tricky since one of the goals of such games is to score with as many possible partners. This could also go like Incubus City route where based on girls one scores you get different endings and then for the next run when you play as a male or female, you face the same characters but they are tweaked by the previous experiences (eg. you face a Luca who is more cunning or maybe who is more loyal to his gf, making it much harder to steal his gf, etc.). That would definitely make playing this game again and again always a unique experience.

But thus game is like real life.be good to gf she won't cheat and plan your cheatings carefully

 

[bruce19]

I played this game few weeks ago and I want to tell my opinion about this game(at least what's appears to be and there is not so much content right now so I can't really tell so much) and I have few questions and suggestions, if it's okay.

This is based on 0.3 version.

1.
Before I go to the next point.
Will you add a female main character?
Adding a female main character would be much more enjoyable.
Adding a female character for the female audience would be nice, I wouldn't mind if the image/videos/gif are same, only the text need to be changed.
I mean the female characters in the game have also stats, what is the point for them to leveling their stats?

2.
The first thing I like about the game is, it's appears not to be linear like many other games for example have fitness at number x and be at x'clock at the gym to trigger a scene.
This system is much more better and like a real sandbox game, other games with sandbox feature feels very linear like jump scene to scene and the player has always meet a certain stats/relationship-points/location to progress in the game to trigger scene and it's feels like boring.

3.
I like what I read about the job system, it appears that you plan to add more jobs and even opening own business.
I hope this will have more content.

4.
I also like traveling feature, I also hope there will be more content and you will travel with someone together.

5.
The most important thing for me is the relationship system and stats system.
I like that the stats and relationship system appears to be dynamic.
Leveling up the stats and climbing up the social ranks is a nice feature.
I hope you will add how the people will react, depending on your stats.
If you level your stats far higher than the other characters, you should be feel like you are on the top of the social ladder in the game.
Stats should really play a important aspect in dialogue, sex and activities, so in everything basically.
I also hope you will add marriage and pregnancy(getting pregnant if you add female main character) in the game.
I have more to tell about at point 7 and 8.

6.
I am sorry to tell you, I don't like the sex system/scene.
The videos are way to long and after you did see them 1 time you not gonna watch it again.
What also bothers me is for example, you given a girl a portrait from a porn star and now you only trying to find a scene with this porn star that you given to that girl as portrait.
This reduce the possibility to create more scenes, using gif and text would be better, even if the girl in the gif is not the same.
I think using more text and gif is better, there are more and better scenes with gif than porn stars videos and with the combination of gif and text you actually can create the scenario you want.
Using porn stars in scenes feels like all others games, I mean porn is boring, let me explain this before somebody tells me this is a porn game.
All porn stars are the same, fake moaning, stupid positions^^ and most them faking the pleasure they get.
It's like a boring classic action movie, if you watched one you did see them all.
I think you should focus more on gif and text, this allows you to create your own scenarios and story. If you use a video, you actually handicap yourself, I realized that you adapt/adjust what is happening in the video and it's feels like you are only describing what is happening in a video and trying to make a scenario out of it ,it's gives you little freedom.
The writing of the scenarios are really weak and like I said it feels like that you are only describing what in the videos is happening and then you try make a context, I think you should really write first the scenario and then add image/gif and making a context with a gif is much easier without destroying the scenario.

7.
There is another thing that also I don't like, but before I tell please I don't want to be insulted by a aggressive cuckold.
I often see how cuckold people get aggressive when somebody tells that they don't like NTR.
This is a forum and people should be able to say that they don't like NTR without being attacked and insulted.
I often did see in the forums if somebody ask for example is NTR avoidable, the cuckold people get aggressive and insult them.
Okay now back to the topic.
-
I don't like NTR and in the game it seems is somewhat forced.
I can't tell if in 0.3 relationship is added, but what I can tell that the NPC cheat each other and it feels like there is no real relationship at all.
When I played, I did see how the NPC cheated with each other every day. It feels somewhat they don't care at all.
I don't know exactly when they start cheating each other relationship-point/lust-points around 100 maybe?
I mean if relationship is being added and the player has the option to go into a relationship, will the NPC cheat instead going to the player and ask for sex.
NTR will probally not be removed but forcing player into NTR is also not right, than it could be maybe like this, if the player keeps rejecting the relationship on purpose multiple times in a row maybe than bad events could be happen, of course there could be always the possibility reverse the bad events by not rejecting the relationship.
Normally the NPC should go to the partner before it's start cheating, only if the partner reject the partner in relationship multiple times in row, than bad events happen.
Also NTR is very boring, it always the same story.The male character in the game has always a small one while the other have a bigger one and women are treated like objects.
That women are treated like a object bothers me a lot.

8.
I don't know what kind of NTR is in this game and I dislike and hate NTR and I hope it will be not forced, but stats should be play a big role if cheating happens, for example: A character has higher stats but the relationship cheats on him, than the relationship should regret the cheating on male main character and maybe say something "It was not worth" or "my relationship partner is much better than you and regret for cheating".
And the relationship should confess if it's regret the cheating and do should never cheat again if the relationship forgive.

9.
I forgot which names of the characters belongs to which character, it is few weeks ago that I played the game.
Different characters should have different personality.
Some character should really never cheat if they have the personality "loyal".
I think the best character would be for that personality "loyal" the girl that also got cheated from her boyfriend in the beginn of the game story.
And if you add a female main character, maybe playing as the girl that also got cheated would be nice and then the male main character became a dateable option and the male character has the loyal personality.
It would be nice if this game has real romance and love option and i hope that relationship-love-points are important in this game.

10.
Here is a suggestion, it would also make relevant to improve other characters stats for this scenario and it shows what kind of effect stats have.
I hate NTR and cheating, but taking revenge on the cheaters would be so satisfying, I hope you add the female character as main character that got cheated.
I love to play as her and take my revenge on the boyfriend, the first thing I would do is to level my stats very high up to make me the most desirable character and skilled character and the boyfriend will regret that he cheated on in the past and he will see the other woman that he cheated with like a cheap person.
Then making him fall in love and making him feel like the luckiest guy in the world.
Meanwhile I improve secretly the stats of that male character that also got cheated in the beginning of the game and making him to better than the boyfriend by training his stats via quests and activities.
And then calling the boyfriend to the house and telling him that I want spend time with him and invite him to the bedroom.
When the boyfriend enters the bedroom, I lock the door with the key.
The male character that also got cheated appears from a corner he starts himself undressing naked.
The boyfriend will be confused and starts to yell in a angry voice "Stop it what are you idiot this is not your bedroom, this is my girlfriends bedroom, get out of here"
The male character will ignore him and continue undressing himself naked.
Boyfriend wants to stop the male character, but because I helped the male character and did quests and activies together with the male character, the stats are multiple times are higher than the boyfriend and he will not dare to start a fight.
-
(depending on stats of characters, for example having significant higher fitness makes for other NPC visible if someone is physically stronger and they will not attack the other character, if the male character would have same level fitness there would be a high chance to attack, if the male character would have significant lower fitness the boyfriend would attack the male character in the scenario.)
-
The male character starts to position himself behind me and undress me right in front of the boyfriend and slowly undressing me naked.
The boyfriend is looking with wide open shocked eyes, he his angry and desperate and start hitting against the wall with his fist but he can't do anything and he knows what gonna happen next.
The male character starts to now touching my breasts from behind and place his dick between my legs and I rub myself on his dick on my vaginal entrance.
The boyfriend life is devastated, after I made him fall in love with me, now seeing him that I am with the male character naked and his dick rubbing between my legs, right in front of the boyfriends eyes.
The boyfriend beg to stop it "Please stop it! You can't do this to me, I get it, I am sorry that I cheated on you in the past." he cries.
I feel not sorry for him and I just stare at him coldly.
The male character grabs me and pushes me carefully to the bed.
I position myself into doggystyle position and I face the boyfriend without talking.
The male character positions behind me and slowly enters my pussy, he starts to move with his hips and fucks my pussy, the only sound that can be only heard right now in the room is the sound of the dick that hits my pussy and the pathetic crying boyfriend that cheated.
I beginn to moan and the male character increase his speed of his thrust, in fast deep motion.
The male character grunts and start to talk "I slowly reaching my limit [female main character name] I am about to cum."
I move my head little bit closer to the boyfriend and say to him in a cold whispering voice "I am not on the pill and I will let him cum inside me, because he loves me and would never cheat on me"
The boyfriend or let's better say ex-boyfriend is speechless and do not know what to say.
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So on and so on both took their revenge. When they did not die, they live happily together(expect for the stupid cheating boyfriend). You get what I mean, my english is not my first language and I don't want to write a whole story ^^ and also I had to cut off many details of the story because the story would be to long for this single scene and I probally made many writing and grammatic mistake.

I believe the charm of this game is that it is a real sandbox. I think the original intention of the dev is to build a virtual world. Regarding NTRs, I think that what exists in real-world life should also exist in the game. You can try your best to avoid NTRs in real, and you can also take care of your relationship or look for a faithful partner to avoid NTR in the game as well instead of turning them off in the game settings.
For the rest of your points, I totally agree.

 

[dingo4life]

I played this game few weeks ago and I want to tell my opinion about this game(at least what's appears to be and there is not so much content right now so I can't really tell so much) and I have few questions and suggestions, if it's okay.

This is based on 0.3 version.

1.
Before I go to the next point.
Will you add a female main character?
Adding a female main character would be much more enjoyable.
Adding a female character for the female audience would be nice, I wouldn't mind if the image/videos/gif are same, only the text need to be changed.
I mean the female characters in the game have also stats, what is the point for them to leveling their stats?

2.
The first thing I like about the game is, it's appears not to be linear like many other games for example have fitness at number x and be at x'clock at the gym to trigger a scene.
This system is much more better and like a real sandbox game, other games with sandbox feature feels very linear like jump scene to scene and the player has always meet a certain stats/relationship-points/location to progress in the game to trigger scene and it's feels like boring.

3.
I like what I read about the job system, it appears that you plan to add more jobs and even opening own business.
I hope this will have more content.

4.
I also like traveling feature, I also hope there will be more content and you will travel with someone together.

5.
The most important thing for me is the relationship system and stats system.
I like that the stats and relationship system appears to be dynamic.
Leveling up the stats and climbing up the social ranks is a nice feature.
I hope you will add how the people will react, depending on your stats.
If you level your stats far higher than the other characters, you should be feel like you are on the top of the social ladder in the game.
Stats should really play a important aspect in dialogue, sex and activities, so in everything basically.
I also hope you will add marriage and pregnancy(getting pregnant if you add female main character) in the game.
I have more to tell about at point 7 and 8.

6.
I am sorry to tell you, I don't like the sex system/scene.
The videos are way to long and after you did see them 1 time you not gonna watch it again.
What also bothers me is for example, you given a girl a portrait from a porn star and now you only trying to find a scene with this porn star that you given to that girl as portrait.
This reduce the possibility to create more scenes, using gif and text would be better, even if the girl in the gif is not the same.
I think using more text and gif is better, there are more and better scenes with gif than porn stars videos and with the combination of gif and text you actually can create the scenario you want.
Using porn stars in scenes feels like all others games, I mean porn is boring, let me explain this before somebody tells me this is a porn game.
All porn stars are the same, fake moaning, stupid positions^^ and most them faking the pleasure they get.
It's like a boring classic action movie, if you watched one you did see them all.
I think you should focus more on gif and text, this allows you to create your own scenarios and story. If you use a video, you actually handicap yourself, I realized that you adapt/adjust what is happening in the video and it's feels like you are only describing what is happening in a video and trying to make a scenario out of it ,it's gives you little freedom.
The writing of the scenarios are really weak and like I said it feels like that you are only describing what in the videos is happening and then you try make a context, I think you should really write first the scenario and then add image/gif and making a context with a gif is much easier without destroying the scenario.

7.
There is another thing that also I don't like, but before I tell please I don't want to be insulted by a aggressive cuckold.
I often see how cuckold people get aggressive when somebody tells that they don't like NTR.
This is a forum and people should be able to say that they don't like NTR without being attacked and insulted.
I often did see in the forums if somebody ask for example is NTR avoidable, the cuckold people get aggressive and insult them.
Okay now back to the topic.
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I don't like NTR and in the game it seems is somewhat forced.
I can't tell if in 0.3 relationship is added, but what I can tell that the NPC cheat each other and it feels like there is no real relationship at all.
When I played, I did see how the NPC cheated with each other every day. It feels somewhat they don't care at all.
I don't know exactly when they start cheating each other relationship-point/lust-points around 100 maybe?
I mean if relationship is being added and the player has the option to go into a relationship, will the NPC cheat instead going to the player and ask for sex.
NTR will probally not be removed but forcing player into NTR is also not right, than it could be maybe like this, if the player keeps rejecting the relationship on purpose multiple times in a row maybe than bad events could be happen, of course there could be always the possibility reverse the bad events by not rejecting the relationship.
Normally the NPC should go to the partner before it's start cheating, only if the partner reject the partner in relationship multiple times in row, than bad events happen.
Also NTR is very boring, it always the same story.The male character in the game has always a small one while the other have a bigger one and women are treated like objects.
That women are treated like a object bothers me a lot.

8.
I don't know what kind of NTR is in this game and I dislike and hate NTR and I hope it will be not forced, but stats should be play a big role if cheating happens, for example: A character has higher stats but the relationship cheats on him, than the relationship should regret the cheating on male main character and maybe say something "It was not worth" or "my relationship partner is much better than you and regret for cheating".
And the relationship should confess if it's regret the cheating and do should never cheat again if the relationship forgive.

9.
I forgot which names of the characters belongs to which character, it is few weeks ago that I played the game.
Different characters should have different personality.
Some character should really never cheat if they have the personality "loyal".
I think the best character would be for that personality "loyal" the girl that also got cheated from her boyfriend in the beginn of the game story.
And if you add a female main character, maybe playing as the girl that also got cheated would be nice and then the male main character became a dateable option and the male character has the loyal personality.
It would be nice if this game has real romance and love option and i hope that relationship-love-points are important in this game.

10.
Here is a suggestion, it would also make relevant to improve other characters stats for this scenario and it shows what kind of effect stats have.
I hate NTR and cheating, but taking revenge on the cheaters would be so satisfying, I hope you add the female character as main character that got cheated.
I love to play as her and take my revenge on the boyfriend, the first thing I would do is to level my stats very high up to make me the most desirable character and skilled character and the boyfriend will regret that he cheated on in the past and he will see the other woman that he cheated with like a cheap person.
Then making him fall in love and making him feel like the luckiest guy in the world.
Meanwhile I improve secretly the stats of that male character that also got cheated in the beginning of the game and making him to better than the boyfriend by training his stats via quests and activities.
And then calling the boyfriend to the house and telling him that I want spend time with him and invite him to the bedroom.
When the boyfriend enters the bedroom, I lock the door with the key.
The male character that also got cheated appears from a corner he starts himself undressing naked.
The boyfriend will be confused and starts to yell in a angry voice "Stop it what are you idiot this is not your bedroom, this is my girlfriends bedroom, get out of here"
The male character will ignore him and continue undressing himself naked.
Boyfriend wants to stop the male character, but because I helped the male character and did quests and activies together with the male character, the stats are multiple times are higher than the boyfriend and he will not dare to start a fight.
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(depending on stats of characters, for example having significant higher fitness makes for other NPC visible if someone is physically stronger and they will not attack the other character, if the male character would have same level fitness there would be a high chance to attack, if the male character would have significant lower fitness the boyfriend would attack the male character in the scenario.)
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The male character starts to position himself behind me and undress me right in front of the boyfriend and slowly undressing me naked.
The boyfriend is looking with wide open shocked eyes, he his angry and desperate and start hitting against the wall with his fist but he can't do anything and he knows what gonna happen next.
The male character starts to now touching my breasts from behind and place his dick between my legs and I rub myself on his dick on my vaginal entrance.
The boyfriend life is devastated, after I made him fall in love with me, now seeing him that I am with the male character naked and his dick rubbing between my legs, right in front of the boyfriends eyes.
The boyfriend beg to stop it "Please stop it! You can't do this to me, I get it, I am sorry that I cheated on you in the past." he cries.
I feel not sorry for him and I just stare at him coldly.
The male character grabs me and pushes me carefully to the bed.
I position myself into doggystyle position and I face the boyfriend without talking.
The male character positions behind me and slowly enters my pussy, he starts to move with his hips and fucks my pussy, the only sound that can be only heard right now in the room is the sound of the dick that hits my pussy and the pathetic crying boyfriend that cheated.
I beginn to moan and the male character increase his speed of his thrust, in fast deep motion.
The male character grunts and start to talk "I slowly reaching my limit [female main character name] I am about to cum."
I move my head little bit closer to the boyfriend and say to him in a cold whispering voice "I am not on the pill and I will let him cum inside me, because he loves me and would never cheat on me"
The boyfriend or let's better say ex-boyfriend is speechless and do not know what to say.
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So on and so on both took their revenge. When they did not die, they live happily together(expect for the stupid cheating boyfriend). You get what I mean, my english is not my first language and I don't want to write a whole story ^^ and also I had to cut off many details of the story because the story would be to long for this single scene and I probally made many writing and grammatic mistake.

I think it's FAR too early to make a new main character, it's not even 0.5 yet and some basic features have yet to been implemented, so I think it's better that stuff get sorted out first.
Text does pretty much nothing for me, I don't personally watch porn for the story nor to get intellectually stimulated, I do it to get my rocks off, I don't care how real or fake it is, to each their own I guess. I do agree shorter webms could be nice and could make it easier for the dev especially since there are plenty of sites dedicated to just that.
People get pissed off when people complain about NTR in a thread with an NTR tag because they never check the front page or search if anyone already have asked the question before, so it clutters up the thread, not to mention shit is subjective and it's easy to just move along if you don't like something.
Also I suggest you check the various "dev blogs" in this thread as stuff you are asking for, like a relationship system is already in the making, not meant as an insult but you might find those interesting and you can always join the Discord, although I think the dude said he went on a business trip or something so I'm not sure how active that one is, still it might be a quicker way to get your ideas to the guy.

 

[Virgile85]

Any news for update??

 

[konabwo]

Versta
clicked here and there. is it a sandbox (heavily?) leaning towards datesim and 3rd party relations management?
interesting.

and im kinda concerned. the idea looks too big thus too challenging; demanding much more efforts in order to put all pieces at work (in some meaningful and engaging manner ofc) and that is on top of having some quests & having comparatively large ingame world (visitable locations, including trip to another city with some thingies to be implemented) it is like you want to have it all. so good luck!

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by its looks and ui&functionality the game is def above any recent RP games (or even on top).
and generally above average (if not comparing content amount)
dont even know what to advise QoL-wise but some optimization would not hurt

- left side menu tracker
id moved time, date, timeskip close to npc-locs tracker as such are most usable part of UI and should be kept close to each other*
(whereas all other things are of much less importance to me ; like you dont realy need to have stats like char stats n money infront of your eyes all the time)
(*)any extra/avoidable click or scroll is never a good things just caz eventually such pile up and comprise a fair share of unnecessary 'click-grind' gameplay

- 3rd party relationship scores and info... i think i spotted such during 'normal talk'
(that requires player to find and go to that npc first and click on that option. which as u may have guessed = extra clicks).
id suggest some appoach to make it easier to access/see.

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- some menus work but weirdly or non-comfy, for example:
bank, u need to re-enter it if you want to pick another $ recepient
houseparty - maybe to add invite all button. or have some check marks for those u will always invit (now it is lots of scrolls n clicks)
raising stats via gifts - as i got that quest to raise gial atractiveness i noticed a weird behaviour. her stat didnot go up when i gave her several presents , so it worked only if 1 present - stop interacting - click on her pic again ... repeat x times.


also
- backup your work to avoid sad occurrences !
- lesser focus on writing/texts to free up some extra time. (who reads txts in sandboxes?) unless you heavily rely on texts to build a narrative (within a datesim component which looks prevailing)
(my preference d be a classic approach with quest-based interactions and manipulations with npcs, objects, environment leading to obtaining xxx rewards upon completion. in that case writing/texts is smth players tend to skip as they get a narrative from quests, relevant visuals, tips, choices, actions, etc)

 

[dingo4life]

So for anyone who have not glanced over the Discord, 0.4.5 was supposed to come out Sunday but the guy has gone radio silent after missing the deadline. Apparently the party system is super complicated but I don't know coding. Either way, check the discord if you want to be kept up to date, he also uploaded his Patreon there, the one in this thread leads to nothing and as you know the 0.4 never got uploaded here either, you will have to find that one in the chat section, for some reason though.

 

[Virgile85]

So for anyone who have not glanced over the Discord, 0.4.5 was supposed to come out Sunday but the guy has gone radio silent after missing the deadline. Apparently the party system is super complicated but I don't know coding. Either way, check the discord if you want to be kept up to date, he also uploaded his Patreon there, the one in this thread leads to nothing and as you know the 0.4 never got uploaded here either, you will have to find that one in the chat section, for some reason though.

What do you mean???the dev won't upload his game here???

 

[dingo4life]

What do you mean???the dev won't upload his game here???

I've not clue about his intentions and he still has not posted anything new on Discord since Sunday, but yeah, if you want the 0.4 update you need to join his Discord and find it in the chat section and he is apparently working on 0.4.5 so if he does upload here again it's likely to be that one.