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WW_Porn_Star

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With all due respect, That's a little misleading... he obviously put in a code to block S4CL because its being used to inject things into Wickedwhims that he doesn't want to be tied to, eg pets, rape and at one point in the past kids,
Modders have taken steps to block other modders from editing their mods and code in the past so this nothing new, especially when others seek to earn cash or rep from it,
Its drama I know but stolen code etc is hard to overlook x

The bottom line is that this is not malware and will not harm your setup, its going to be a code somewhere that blocks other codes from being accessible in some way
Turbodriver himself called it malware. I'm just the messenger.
 

WW_Porn_Star

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i'm not sure what malicious coding has to do what did ColonolNutty supposedly stolen? is it right for many people to be attacked with malware for that reason? s4cl ( ) just seems like an open-sourced, potential competitor to wicked whims that doesn't only focus on sex?
Exactly. S4CL is used by a lot of small mods as well. Turbo pulled his support channel in his discord and on LL...he himself called it malware and is doing damage control right now. Yet people are still here defending him smh
 
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oh, i think i get it now. the "Sims 4 Community Library" is basically the framework that helps people create many things (professions, moods, whatever). "Devious Desires" is the "Wicked Whims" alternative and i'm guessing "Sims 4 Control Menu" is like "MCCC"? devious desires and sims 4 control menu, and other mods i'm sure all rely upon the s4cl.

so, the story i infer from these past few messages is... ColonolNutty made mods based upon wicked whims. people hated those mods and had him blacklisted. so he went out and started his own thing that wouldn't rely upon the Wicked Whims framework. and now, since the Wicked Whims developer can't do anything about ColonolNutty anymore, they attack us users instead for using S4CL?
 

Hellooo00

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oh, i think i get it now. the "Sims 4 Community Library" is basically the framework that helps people create many things (professions, moods, whatever). "Devious Desires" is the "Wicked Whims" alternative and i'm guessing "Sims 4 Control Menu" is like "MCCC"?

so, the story i infer from these past few messages is... ColonolNutty made mods based upon wicked whims. people hated those mods and had him blacklisted. so he went out and started his own thing that wouldn't rely upon the Wicked Whims framework. and now, since the Wicked Whims developer can't do anything about ColonolNutty anymore, they attack us users instead for using S4CL?
^that
 
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Curious Kitty

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Just enforces the point,

So basically Wickedwhims file checker detected SC4L and alerted itself to the exact file it sought to restrict,
Like a false positive
Just a blunder and not worth the hype,
We had drama with this back with some dude called Art.www or something like that a while ago, obviously people who use the mods get sore but unfortunately its between the modders to sort it between themselves
 

LordVoldemort24

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With all due respect, That's a little misleading... he obviously put in a code to block S4CL because its being used to inject things into Wickedwhims that he doesn't want to be tied to, eg pets, rape and at one point in the past kids,
Modders have taken steps to block other modders from editing their mods and code in the past so this nothing new, especially when others seek to earn cash or rep from it,
Its drama I know but stolen code etc is hard to overlook x

The bottom line is that this is not malware and will not harm your setup, its going to be a code somewhere that blocks other codes from being accessible in some way
None of my mods modify Wicked Whims in any way. Everyone continues saying I "stole code", but noone has provided any proof (Not even to me), please stop spreading this baseless rumor as if it were a fact.

Malware by definition is, according to google, "Software that is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain unauthorized access to a computer system. ", Mods are a part of the computer system, especially when they are running alongside The Sims 4.

Furthermore, what he has done is against the EA User Agreement:
Interfere with or disrupt another player's use of an EA Service. This includes disrupting the normal flow of game play, chat or dialogue within an EA Service by, for example, using vulgar or harassing language, being abusive, excessive shouting (all caps), spamming, flooding or hitting the return key repeatedly.
Just enforces the point,

So basically Wickedwhims file checker detected SC4L and alerted itself to the exact file it sought to restrict,
Like a false positive
Just a blunder and not worth the hype,
We had drama with this back with some dude called Art.www or something like that a while ago, obviously people who use the mods get sore but unfortunately its between the modders to sort it between themselves
Your idea of "let the modders sort it out" is flawed, especially when one modder is banned without reason from literally everywhere due to slander from the other party. It makes it difficult to defend any attacks thrown against them when they can't put up a defense in the first place due to being banned.
 
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So basically anyone outside of the elitist group of privilaged modders will be degraded and banned from servers for providing competition/variation to the game... Generally speaking and seeing it from a third person perspective would discourage any new scripters from starting up. Doesn't discourage me though, btw code cannot be "stolen" when all of it belongs to EA in the first place AND we scripters are "stealing" EA's code by decompiling it and using it in our mods in the same manner anyone else would by decompiling modder scripts and using it. The ONLY shitty actions one could make here would be to take credit for ANY code EA's and modders alike and claim it is their own. Anything else is a bunch of bullshit talk and false claims
 

Curious Kitty

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Doesn't matter how its worded, if someone doesn't want to be associated then can't be helped, pets and rape isn't everyone's bag but its a users choice what they play with, it's a modders choice too I guess
 
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LordVoldemort24

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Doesn't matter how its worded, if someone doesn't want to be associated then can't be helped, pets and rape isn't everyone's bag but its a users choice what they play with, it's a modders choice too I guess
I don't even play The Sims 4, I only make mods for it. My mods are community driven. All planned features and current features were requested by the community and were made for the community. Trying to attack a mod for including features requested by the community essentially means you are attacking the community that requested those features as well.

I do have some lines drawn though, and I do decline some feature requests. For example, I don't plan on ever adding the ability to kidnap or enslave Child Sims via Sim Snatcher, but I've received quite a few requests for it.
 

Curious Kitty

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I don't even play The Sims 4, I only make mods for it. My mods are community driven. All planned features and current features were requested by the community and were made for the community. Trying to attack a mod for including features requested by the community essentially means you are attacking the community that requested those features as well.
I respect all of that and I know you enabled something that was highly requested,
Unfortunately its impossible to sidestep the white knight agendas that come with such content, I learned a long time ago to stop being concerned personally but same time I guess authors need to appease their own communites,
its just not right to freak people out over a malware warning which isn't actually a virus and start another flame war which won't help either party
 
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LordVoldemort24

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I respect all of that and I know you enabled something that was highly requested,
Unfortunately its impossible to sidestep the white knight agendas that come with such content, I learned a long time ago to stop being concerned personally but same time I guess authors need to appease their own communites,
its just not right to freak people out over a malware warning which isn't actually a virus and start another flame war which won't help either party
My only goal was for Turbo to remove the malicious code. No, I do not recommend personally attacking them, since that was never my intention. I wanted people to be aware of the problem so it could eventually reach the ears of Turbo himself.

I agree that such a warning, and how poorly it was worded, from within a mod was not the way to go about informing users, which is why I removed it soon after uploading the version that contained it, with the hope that not many people saw that warning in their game.

The malicious code was removed from Wicked Whims by Turbodriver, so I am content and wish no further discussion on the topic. Since the only form of available communication with Turbo was through the community, I can only hope the community can move on from this and don't decide to personally attack him. Noone wants to see Wicked Whims break other mods intentionally, but noone wants to see it die either.
 
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Jorak84

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Still I don't see the term "malware" is used correctly as it doesn't harm my PC and just blocks code from a mod. Personally I wouldn't call this malware but kindergarten.
Malware is just a good "PR" term here to have folks do what they do best these days...being offended as fuck without thinking.
 

LordVoldemort24

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Still I don't see the term "malware" is used correctly as it doesn't harm my PC and just blocks code from a mod. Personally I wouldn't call this malware but kindergarten.
Malware is just a good "PR" term here to have folks do what they do best these days...being offended as fuck without thinking.
I couldn't think of a better word than that. What word would you use instead?
 

taglag

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I do not see how you can support anyone building a mod in such a way that it maliciously sabotages other mods.

If you support such actions where does it stop, what is the next mod that they decide "well I need to sabotage that one as well ".

Maybe they decide a clothing mod does not suit them,(Its just to lewd) or maybe Nisa Perveted Whims is next, or maybe they decide to sabotage Basemental drugs... Where does it stop.

You intend for one person to decide which mods are okay and which are not, making all your mindless choices for you, and you defend them.

I don't want one man or woman deciding this or that for me. Let them make mods, and let me chose the ones I like. They have no business destroying other peoples hard work.

I mean how would you like building something special in your back yard only to find out during the night your neighbor in the middle of the night destroyed it. It is as wrong as any malicious virus I have ever seen, and I think totally heinous.