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hey there der visionary ! i want you to ask something. How do you plan your chapters ? playing time wise or are you planning an event and finish that no matter how long it is ? thank you !
 

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hey there der visionary ! i want you to ask something. How do you plan your chapters ? playing time wise or are you planning an event and finish that no matter how long it is ? thank you !
I think I mentioned that before, but each chapter is first of all meant to progress the main story, while everything else is kind of built around it.
So, how do I plan them exactly? Well, it's more of a workload issue. As I don't want to release the update every half a year(or even longer), I try to restrain myself to certain size limitations. For example, initially Chapter III was meant to be made of 9 scenes, but after writing the scenario and planning everything out, I had to "cut" the size down to 7. The update is still going to be larger than initial release mind you. Also, the "cut" content was simply moved to Chapter IV and no, it won't affect the narrative as I'm planning most of the plot far ahead.
One thing is certain, if during the planning period I've said that particular event will take place on upcoming chapter, it will be there no matter what.
That got convoluted :rolleyes:. I hope I answered your question.

The first plan was posted back in late march, here:

Gonna post one more up-to-date soon.
 
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I think I mentioned that before, but each chapter is first of all meant to progress the main story, while everything else is kind of built around it.
So, how do I plan them exactly? Well, it's more of a workload issue. As I don't want to release the update every half a year(or even longer), I try to restrain myself to certain size limitations. For example, initially Chapter III was meant to be made of 9 scenes, but after writing the scenario and planning everything out, I had to "cut" the size down to 7. The update is still going to be larger than initial release mind you. Also, the "cut" content was simply moved to Chapter IV and no, it won't affect the narrative as I'm planning most of the plot far ahead.
One thing is certain, if during the planning period I've said that particular event will take place on upcoming chapter, it will be there no matter what.
That got convoluted :rolleyes:. I hope I answered your question.

The first plan was posted back in late march, here:

Gonna post one more up-to-date soon.
Great reply thank you for replying i want to make my own game too one day but i dont even know where to start this will help thank you so much
 

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Beta build has been released today - limited access.
And the full build is scheduled for 22nd of July. Naturally, I'll update all the links here, alongside releasing them on my SS.
The two weeks gap between beta and public comes from the fact, I want to fix all the misspells and spend a little more time on general improvement of grammar.
 

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Reading through this thread is kind of confusing. I'm all for netori, but is the cuck shit(Swinging/sharing) fully avoidable or is it only an option in some scenes? It seemed like some people were implying it might be optional (including the dev note), but there are also many people just bitching about it being an ntr game.
 

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Reading through this thread is kind of confusing. I'm all for netori, but is the cuck shit(Swinging/sharing) fully avoidable or is it only an option in some scenes? It seemed like some people were implying it might be optional (including the dev note), but there are also many people just bitching about it being an ntr game.
This is a useless indicator.

Some people think that an LI having had a previous relationship is NTR. anti-NTR fanatics are a cancer. I say that as someone who doesn't like NTR
 

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Reading through this thread is kind of confusing. I'm all for netori, but is the cuck shit(Swinging/sharing) fully avoidable or is it only an option in some scenes? It seemed like some people were implying it might be optional (including the dev note), but there are also many people just bitching about it being an ntr game.
As of 0.3 fully avoidable, properly marked and it's going to be like this for the rest of the story.
 

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Like the renders and stuff and fairs to the dev notes explaining, but can you avoid the cuckery a bit and still have game or it's like: > refuse to share. *click* *black screen* "well that was all guys thanks for playing" ??, yk what I mean. Either way will give it a try
 

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I mean, yeah, it's called Patronage. It's why you find their names on hospitals, libraries, and museum wings and all sorts of shit. They also support political candidates and other interests they like. Sharing largesse for benefit is a pretty well established thing that wealthy/powerful people do.
LMAO. No they do it for the tax breaks and to get a better public image. Not because they are nice people. Lol
 

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Like the renders and stuff and fairs to the dev notes explaining, but can you avoid the cuckery a bit and still have game or it's like: > refuse to share. *click* *black screen* "well that was all guys thanks for playing" ??, yk what I mean. Either way will give it a try
It depends. Right now some scenes have variations, for example the one where you can invite your friend. If you do, the outcome is a little different than when you don't(duh), while amount of content stays similar. On the other hand, there's the scene in swingers club, where if you refuse the proposal. it ends much quicker. For obvious reasons.
Sometimes it will be straight-up skipping content and making the chapter significantly shorter, but it cannot be taken as a rule. Chapter III is pretty vanilla and there isn't much you can miss, if you decide to go completely against netorase.
Got to say, netori only path is something I was thinking about. In short, it would result in MC going against the game worlds rules. The variables are there, I'd just have to properly use them. Anyway, it's way too early to talk about it in detail.
 

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The phone conversations aren't working right. Text that I assume comes from the MC is blank. It's like this for every phone conversation.
DerVisionar it's URM. I'm certain you're using it. It does that on every phone game i've ever played. Makes the incoming text super bold type and outgoing texts are completely blocked. You're changing the text box for opacity aren't you. when the phone convos start just roll back to right before and un enable the textbox modifications. When the phone convo is over turn it back on. it's a little tedious, but nothing compared to a textbox that blocks half the action.
 
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It depends. Right now some scenes have variations, for example the one where you can invite your friend. If you do, the outcome is a little different than when you don't(duh), while amount of content stays similar. On the other hand, there's the scene in swingers club, where if you refuse the proposal. it ends much quicker. For obvious reasons.
Sometimes it will be straight-up skipping content and making the chapter significantly shorter, but it cannot be taken as a rule. Chapter III is pretty vanilla and there isn't much you can miss, if you decide to go completely against netorase.
Got to say, netori only path is something I was thinking about. In short, it would result in MC going against the game worlds rules. The variables are there, I'd just have to properly use them. Anyway, it's way too early to talk about it in detail.
wait...netori? fuck yes. so underrepresented.
 

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I gotta say that people really need to play the game before they post. I have tried the game and followed the non sharing route. It is surprisingly good. You don't get forced into anything. I also asked DerVisionar and from his own words, you won't get forced to share your LI's later on. It will remain your choice as the player. I encourage the people that were on the fence about playing this game due to the tags, to try it and see for themselves. I wish the dev good luck and I will be subscribing to his SS account soon.
 
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It depends. Right now some scenes have variations, for example the one where you can invite your friend. If you do, the outcome is a little different than when you don't(duh), while amount of content stays similar. On the other hand, there's the scene in swingers club, where if you refuse the proposal. it ends much quicker. For obvious reasons.
Sometimes it will be straight-up skipping content and making the chapter significantly shorter, but it cannot be taken as a rule. Chapter III is pretty vanilla and there isn't much you can miss, if you decide to go completely against netorase.
Got to say, netori only path is something I was thinking about. In short, it would result in MC going against the game worlds rules. The variables are there, I'd just have to properly use them. Anyway, it's way too early to talk about it in detail.
How clean are these avoidance options? If we chose to refuse the swingers club, are we going to see characters later talking about things that would have happened in those scenes (only skipping the scene) or will the story progress as though the club events never happened and never mention them again (actually avoiding it entirely)?

I understand this is meant to be a netorase focused game so choosing options to avoid such content is almost certainly going to result in a shorter game, and I'm completely fine with that, I'm just wondering if what's left outside those scenes will be of interest to me.
 
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