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What character do you like the most?

  • Camila

    Votes: 1,576 44.8%
  • Emma

    Votes: 1,039 29.6%
  • Eva

    Votes: 526 15.0%
  • Alyna

    Votes: 373 10.6%

  • Total voters
    3,514

ClockworkGnome

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Sep 18, 2021
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Hahaha man, the pearl clutching in this thread is amazing. :LOL:

If this isnt your kind of kink, maybe just go away quietly?
Yeah, that logic doesn't really fly in this case.

It's one thing if you're talking about people going into a game that is blatantly catering to a specific fetish, and then complaining about that fetish (like going into a threat for a game called Addicted to Licking Feet and complaining that foot fetishes are gross and there should be fewer foot scenes in the game).

It's a completely different thing if a game starts out with one direction/tone/theme/genre/etc, and then after multiple updates and years worth of development, suddenly decides it wants to be something completely different and pulls a metaphorical 180 in the middle of the highway. People who've been invested in the game for a long time absolutely have the right to complain about it, and to essentially call attention to it so that other people don't fall into the same trap.

It's the same reason why anti-NTR backlash is usually at its worst for games which come across as mostly vanilla for a long time before the dev suddenly throws NTR scenes in out of nowhere and with no advance warning. Because people being lured in and then tricked is way more likely to cause outrage and blowback than being upfront about what your game is from the start.

It's not really pearl clutching to say "This game is not what it used to be and isn't what it claimed it was supposed to be."
 

buff

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May 29, 2017
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And now my brain is playing an old King Missile song on loop.... :sneaky:
That fucking song is the reason I don't let me phone do shuffle-all when i'm driving with the windows down. Holy shit that was a long, long, LONG stop light to sit through without making any eye contact with other cars.
 

MasterGamer1234567890

Active Member
Oct 25, 2022
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First of all, you brought this up by trying to figure out if the incest in this game fit your narrow personal preference. Which you could have discovered by just reading some of the posts in this thread. I mean, the Dev themself literally answered that question in the 4th post - SMH. And the use of the tag is clearly defined in the Forum's Tag Rules

Then you throw the "Woke" trope out there. Which is actually fucking hilarious in F95's case. I mean, this place is like the last bastion against the Woke World. Where else can several million members download a free VN or game with exactly their favorite kinks... everything from doggies to lolis and all the other lovely kinks in between?

Avaron1974 is pretty experienced at forum smack-downs. I think she's justified in this case ;)
You clearly hasn't read what I wrote either, so it's pretty pointless to discuss with you. The only reason why this pointless discussion is brought back to life is because Avaron1974 replied to a 1 year old post.

I've ditched this game long time ago, and are no longer watching this thread. If you don't want to hear my point of view, don't quote me or reply to my posts. That way I won't know whats going on in this thread.
 

ramvivat

Engaged Member
Jun 28, 2022
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heh...
poor Camilla. it's was too much for her, i think. in case with Emma - girl was real lucky to fall in unconscious state.
but with Camilla - i think after that rape she will hate her submissivity. her uncle is sicko nut.
 
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JoeTheMC84

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Dec 1, 2021
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It's kind of funny to see people talk about the Mc being psycho or brutalizing the girls. Because of the choices I made the Mc didn't do that. Yeah, because of his oversized dick it was still a lot for the girls to take and left them a little gapping and there was blood, but in my versions of the scene the Mc didn't force it and "rape" them like it seems like he does if you go that route. Idk, maybe the choices should be labeled or something, so it's easier to get the "softer" version of the sex scenes, but there is a version when the Mc takes his time and doesn't abuse either of the twins but goes at their pace.
 
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quiboune

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Sep 2, 2018
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It's kind of funny to see people talk about the Mc being psycho or brutalizing the girls. Because of the choices I made the Mc didn't do that. Yeah, because of his oversized dick it was still a lot for the girls to take and left them a little gapping and there was blood, but in my versions of the scene the Mc didn't force it and "rape" them like it seems like he does if you go that route. Idk, maybe the choices should be labeled or something, so it's easier to get the "softer" version of the sex scenes, but there is a version when the Mc takes his time and doesn't abuse either of the twins but goes at their pace.
With how linear the game seems to be I thought both paths would lead to pretty much the same outcome, but if that's not the case I don't know why people are complaining lol
 

KEKBUR

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Sep 15, 2016
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Yeah, that logic doesn't really fly in this case.

It's one thing if you're talking about people going into a game that is blatantly catering to a specific fetish, and then complaining about that fetish (like going into a threat for a game called Addicted to Licking Feet and complaining that foot fetishes are gross and there should be fewer foot scenes in the game).

It's a completely different thing if a game starts out with one direction/tone/theme/genre/etc, and then after multiple updates and years worth of development, suddenly decides it wants to be something completely different and pulls a metaphorical 180 in the middle of the highway. People who've been invested in the game for a long time absolutely have the right to complain about it, and to essentially call attention to it so that other people don't fall into the same trap.

It's the same reason why anti-NTR backlash is usually at its worst for games which come across as mostly vanilla for a long time before the dev suddenly throws NTR scenes in out of nowhere and with no advance warning. Because people being lured in and then tricked is way more likely to cause outrage and blowback than being upfront about what your game is from the start.

It's not really pearl clutching to say "This game is not what it used to be and isn't what it claimed it was supposed to be."
Yeah actually that logic flies pretty well in this case.

Did you play v0.9? If you did, and were on the hardcore route you would know better and can't suddenly come out at v0.10 and act horrified.

Don't know when the tags were edited, but theres a couple hints in there too.

Also this developer does have a tendency for the, shall we say exaggerated stuff (prolapse).

I'm also fairly sure if you decided NOT to be a sick fuck in the game, the scenes would be way more vanilla for you and the rest.

So again, dont go away mad just go away.
 

ClockworkGnome

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Sep 18, 2021
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Yeah actually that logic flies pretty well in this case.
Nah. Because literally nothing you've said actually counters anything I said at all.

Even if you want to argue that the story started to move into that sort of thing in v0.9, that wouldn't really alter the fact that you had 8 updates prior to lull people in and create false expectations. Hence why people may have gotten invested in the game while thinking it was one thing, only to object when it seems to be becoming something else.

It's not really the moral obligation of players to do homework and research what sort of games the dev has made in the past. Partly because devs don't always make the same game over and over (which means past games don't always indicate what future games are going to be like), but partly because it's generally the responsibility of the dev (or others who are in the know) to make clear what sort of game a game is (which is why the Genre and Developer Notes sections exist in the first post of most threads). If that hasn't been done, or it's been done deceptively, you've got no real ground to stand on to complain when people get annoyed that they feel like they've been misled.

You yourself have pointed out that the tags were edited, which itself is indicative of bait-and-switch. Or at least a significant shift in expectations mid-stream. People who came in before certain tags were added are completely justified if they feel like they were misled. There's also the fact that the tags are fairly vague, so how they apply isn't necessarily clear. As an example, the presence of "rape" and "violence" tags doesn't necessarily mean that every scene is violent or every sex scene is going to involve rape. As people have pointed out, while the character and the story have always had elements of violence, for most of the game that hasn't really been the case for the relationships the main character has with those closest to them, so that's a change in tone. Which is what they're objecting to, after having played multiple updates beforehand where that wasn't the case.

As for the other part, people have literally complained that they weren't taking the darker options and still getting excessive scenes. So it's not just a case of picking the wrong options and suffering for it. You'll notice multiple people are basically saying it seems like the choices they're being given are either between "bad" or "worse".

So, you know, regardless of whether you personally agree with them, they're still fully entitled to complain, especially if they have been following the game for years.

And all of that doesn't take into account the fact that "if you don't like it leave" has always been terrible advice for most facets of life, because without criticism nothing will ever improve. And creators may wind up left with almost no supporters and never understand why people are being turned off because no one ever says "Yeah, this is the problem." Telling a creator when they've done something people object to is just as important as praising them when they do something people enjoy, because it's how creators grow as creators, and produce work worth experiencing.

So yeah, that logic doesn't really fly.
 

KEKBUR

Member
Sep 15, 2016
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Nah. Because literally nothing you've said actually counters anything I said at all.

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So yeah, that logic doesn't really fly.
In essence you are simply defending people finding 2 great looking girls on the thumbnail and just downloading the game and then clutching their pearls when they find out they had no idea what they actually downloaded. Well that is TRULY not my problem, and they should keep their moralization to THEMSELVES. Thank you.

There was no bait and switch in regards to the tags thing, which i guarantee you did NOT check yourself either before i mentioned them. I wrote that, quite on purpose, because you WOULD have claimed it was NOT there earlier. You simply do not know yourself if or when they were edited or you would have wanted to shove it in my face.

Also tell me more about those people who have been following for years and did NOT see where it was headed because thats just straight up lying (on their part).

Also saying that the love(!) path is almost equal to the dark path i hilarious.

Either way, i am done with this pointless discussion.
 

Rockero_69

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Sep 26, 2021
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Poor Cami, I know she's submissive and devoted to the MC, but she hasn't done anything wrong to him, for him to treat her like that (it doesn't matter if it's only in the bedroom), that behavior and treatment should be reserved for the Tsundere whores, the spoiled brats who treat or belittle the MC or his family, friends, etc. (whether physically or verbally), those who think they are better than everyone, those kinds of bitches should be subdued and treated like that, not the sweet and innocent Cami, I know that the other path can be chosen, but honestly the one of corruption is exaggerated and that is even though I like to be dominant, but as I mentioned before that's going too far, poor thing.
Sir, EthanKrautz you will burn in hell, well, so will I, but that is another topic.
 

johnpouljones

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Oct 17, 2023
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Poor Cami, I know she's submissive and devoted to the MC, but she hasn't done anything wrong to him, for him to treat her like that (it doesn't matter if it's only in the bedroom), that behavior and treatment should be reserved for the Tsundere whores, the spoiled brats who treat or belittle the MC or his family, friends, etc. (whether physically or verbally), those who think they are better than everyone, those kinds of bitches should be subdued and treated like that, not the sweet and innocent Cami, I know that the other path can be chosen, but honestly the one of corruption is exaggerated and that is even though I like to be dominant, but as I mentioned before that's going too far, poor thing.
Sir, EthanKrautz you will burn in hell, well, so will I, but that is another topic.
Well, the "normal" path also seems too harsh to me. A super light version would also be useful. And the ability to choose, of course.
 
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