VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Tarnish of Silver [v0.1] [Shino88]

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Yeah I really don't get how you can get this fixated on not wanting NTR and skip every single game that has any notion of it.
Even if it's completely optional and even if there's a section in the threads stating in UPPERCASE "If you don't like NTR, skip this game." The messages in these threads still consist about 50%+ out of complaints about NTR...

Watching the people that are FOR or AGAINST, is like watching the discussions that US Liberals and Republicans have with each other on areas they don't agree on.

The fun part is how they explain it like "Yeah I can't have this character so I hate this game" --- But when there's games that have no NTR but there's cute girls you can't start anything with because of any number of reasons, it's perfectly fine lol.
I'm totally against NTR and femdom, I don't share and never will, nor will I let a woman dom me even if it's light. But, I'm trusting the dev on this when he says it's totally optional. Also, if there's a cute girl that I can't have in a non-NTR game and I feel the others are just not my taste, I move on. So, you're actually just generalizing with the bullshit you just said.
 

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I'm totally against NTR and femdom, I don't share and never will, nor will I let a woman dom me even if it's light. But, I'm trusting the dev on this when he says it's totally optional. Also, if there's a cute girl that I can't have in a non-NTR game and I feel the others are just not my taste, I move on. So, you're actually just generalizing with the bullshit you just said.
Come on man you don't let her get a little control when she riding you? lol
 

BlasKyau

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Oh? You didn't like the older one's theme in man of the house? I guess we all have different tastes. Well, my game is more inspired by (Town of passion), but somewhat less vanilla. Both Amber and Selene's routes will be a lot less dom/sub based than Adria's, so I guess you might like how their storyline goes... I'm not sure tho, to be honest with you.
I don't think I've ever played Town of passion, so I can't tell if I like it. In any case, I don't like domination, even at incredibly low levels.

However, I will try the game and comment on what I think about it.
 

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The problem is people complaining and filling threads with useless text, even when it's completely optional ;)


Generalizing because the majority in here starts stupid discussions over NTR, while it literally (and clearly) says:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Optional:<<<<<<<<<<<< Female Domination, Milf, Ntr


Definition of optional
involving an option : not compulsory
No need to preach to me on this. But, by placing everyone into the same basket, makes you look like a dumbass. This whole bs about people fighting over kinks and fetishes is just stupid. We are all fuckin pervs in one way or the other. People just need to grow up. Some also need to learn to read that way they don't make themselves look uneducated.
 

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The reason I put it in brackets is for people that skim over text, spot NTR somewhere in the genres and immediately start complaining in the thread about it and completely missing the OPTIONAL in front of it.

Every time I go through a thread of a (new) game to see what people think of the game, it's filled with useless complaints about whatever genres the game has and why they won't try it instead of comments about whether the game is good (or not) from people that don't care about or actually like the genres.

Why would you want to discuss somebody's dislike of Cheese in a thread about a type of Cheese, when you're there to find out why Cheese-lovers like/dislike that particular kind of Cheese? It's pointless and has zero added value, especially as this same complaint is subsequently repeated over several pages.
Right. Similar to our discussion now. I haven't even tried this game yet to know what this is even about. I personally dl'd it because the dev said 2 things I hate them most are optional. Other devs have said the same, only for us to get a surprise that we don't want.

Anyway, I'm going to take the dev at his word and give this a shot.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Everyone's hung up on the NTR tag. Meanwhile I'm over here wanting to know more about this Demonic Apocalypse in the overview.

Guess I'll find out when i play this in a sec.
 

blackmasha

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Shino88 how attached are you to that optional NTR? cause if you plan to only have a scene or two, it may be better off removing it all together, since people will avoid the game simple cause it has the tag on the thread without checking that it is optional.

And well it kinda does also contrast the whole harem premise (the way you seem to be building up MC in the main image he doesn't seem like someone that would get cucked either).

Not saying you have to though of course, if it is something you want by all means, just thought I would throw that out there if the normal harem-loving audience is your main goal (basically don't stretch yourself too thin to include optional genres/fetishes, may come at the cost of your target audience if not careful).

people who can't play a game because they want to avoid NTR is like people who can't play a game because it has anal scenes in it. it's ridiculous. it also shows an unhealthy way of viewing things. either you are so connected to the characters that you are emotionally hurt if a character you like cheats on you, or you are so Ego hungry that you can't in any way whatsoever share that character with other random NPC's because apparently it's not fun for you.

it's a video game, not your real life girlfriends, hell I was cheated by women before, still won't refuse a good game just because NTR is part of the game.

this is something that no matter how many times people tried to explain I could never figure out. the closest is if I compere NTR to pissing porn, it's disgusting to me. but it's still a far stretch.

a game that doesn't have NTR also loses on a lot of sex positions and scenes, and I don't know about you, but the females in these games are supposed to be fucked (if I am allowed to be gross for a moment here) that's the entire point. and with respect to your massive penis, you only have one. not having NTR is not having a female being fucked by 3 men at the same time, it means a game is lacking content. whenever a game has a pissing scene I just skip it or I watch it for the lols and move on.

the game maker will lose more people if he doesn't have NTR than if he only has NTR. most people want more positions, an Harem should always be an option at best.
 
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blackmasha

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what happened to the first game? is it a good idea to work on 2 games at the same time?
 

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people who can't play a game because they want to avoid NTR is like people who can't play a game because it has anal scenes in it. it's ridiculous. it also shows an unhealthy way of viewing things. either you are so connected to the characters that you are emotionally hurt if a character you like cheats on you, or you are so Ego hungry that you can't in any way whatsoever share that character with other random NPC's because apparently it's not fun for you.

it's a video game, not your real life girlfriends, hell I was cheated by women before, still won't refuse a good game just because NTR is part of the game.

this is something that no matter how many times people tried to explain I could never figure out. the closest is if I compere NTR to pissing porn, it's disgusting to me. but it's still a far stretch.

a game that doesn't have NTR also loses on a lot of sex positions and scenes, and I don't know about you, but the females in these games are supposed to be fucked (if I am allowed to be gross for a moment here) that's the entire point. and with respect to your massive penis, you only have one. not having NTR is not having a female being fucked by 3 men at the same time, it means a game is lacking content. whenever a game has a pissing scene I just skip it or I watch it for the lols and move on.

the game maker will lose more people if he doesn't have NTR than if he only has NTR. most people want more positions, an Harem should always be an option at best.
Just because this is a game, I prefer to play it the way I like it. And if you enter the game just for the sake of pictures, then it's easier to look at the thematic packs.
 

blackmasha

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Just because this is a game, I prefer to play it the way I like it. And if you enter the game just for the sake of pictures, then it's easier to look at the thematic packs.
my opinion remains, doesn't mean I am correct ofc... it's just an opinion.
 

BlasKyau

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I'm liking the game for now. It's good that Shino88 had included warnings in critical choices to let the player go with the paths that they like. (y) (y) (y)

Let's see how it continues.:)
 
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people who can't play a game because they want to avoid NTR is like people who can't play a game because it has anal scenes in it. it's ridiculous. it also shows an unhealthy way of viewing things. either you are so connected to the characters that you are emotionally hurt if a character you like cheats on you, or you are so Ego hungry that you can't in any way whatsoever share that character with other random NPC's because apparently it's not fun for you.

it's a video game, not your real life girlfriends, hell I was cheated by women before, still won't refuse a good game just because NTR is part of the game.

this is something that no matter how many times people tried to explain I could never figure out. the closest is if I compere NTR to pissing porn, it's disgusting to me. but it's still a far stretch.

a game that doesn't have NTR also loses on a lot of sex positions and scenes, and I don't know about you, but the females in these games are supposed to be fucked (if I am allowed to be gross for a moment here) that's the entire point. and with respect to your massive penis, you only have one. not having NTR is not having a female being fucked by 3 men at the same time, it means a game is lacking content. whenever a game has a pissing scene I just skip it or I watch it for the lols and move on.

the game maker will lose more people if he doesn't have NTR than if he only has NTR. most people want more positions, an Harem should always be an option at best.
I think the main thing here are that there are roughly speaking two kinds of players of these kind of games. Some (including myself, and apparently you) see them as a sort of interactive porn, where the MC is more or less the tool to see the scenes and story unfold that you want to see. Others see themselves in the place of the MC and really identify with him (hint: those are usually the ones exclusively referring to the MC as "I"/"me" or complaining if you can't change the MC's name :)). And yes, some do that to a degree that they can actually get angry or upset at seeing NTR, or "their" girl in any way doing something with someone other than "them". I don't think there is a right or wrong there (even though I have seen some posts where I really had to hold myself back from screaming "It's not YOU! You're not ACTUALLY the MC!!" :LOL:). Maybe the immersive players can enjoy a game more deeply (no pun intended) but I think they can also sooner have a game 'ruined' for them because of one or more scenes.
 

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I can't speak for everyone that doesn't like ntr, but in my case, yeah I like to put myself in the shoes of the main character, that is why I don't really like games where the mc is a female for example, I can't really relate to being a female. When I play these games, I like to see the character that I am playing as, "win", and I don't consider getting cucked a win :KEK: . But I think that the anti ntr people take it too far sometimes though, not every game has to cater to our personal preferences. For me as long as the ntr is avoidable, I don't really care. I just have to make the choices in game that don't lead me to that path and I am good.
 
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