Parnso

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The dev was so promising with My Legacy which got updates very fast, but than the Tyrant came and all went down hill.
 

Qmil679

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I would like to play this game but I'm afraid that I will be standing still and I won't know what to do. There is a WT in which is described step by step what to do? I will add that I only want to follow love path.

I have one more question. Are there sex scenes where the MC sees "mother" having sex with someone else? (I don't mean the NTR scenes. I think I remember there was a scene in the bedroom where Bruce (?) had sex with her. I don't know if it's the NTR scene or it's simply impossible to miss.
Thanks.
 

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I would like to play this game but I'm afraid that I will be standing still and I won't know what to do. There is a WT in which is described step by step what to do? I will add that I only want to follow love path.

I have one more question. Are there sex scenes where the MC sees "mother" having sex with someone else? (I don't mean the NTR scenes. I think I remember there was a scene in the bedroom where Bruce (?) had sex with her. I don't know if it's the NTR scene or it's simply impossible to miss.
Thanks.
Since Bruce is her husband at the time this happens and she hasn't given herself fully to MC yet, it is not considered NTR.
 

RogMR

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I would like to play this game but I'm afraid that I will be standing still and I won't know what to do. There is a WT in which is described step by step what to do? I will add that I only want to follow love path.

I have one more question. Are there sex scenes where the MC sees "mother" having sex with someone else? (I don't mean the NTR scenes. I think I remember there was a scene in the bedroom where Bruce (?) had sex with her. I don't know if it's the NTR scene or it's simply impossible to miss.
Thanks.
At first you can spy (7 PM) on mom and dad fucking (voyeurism). If you don't spy on 7 PM, you don't see it.
After you evolve the story, you can decide that he won't fuck her anymore.

You have a hint system on your phone. I play without WT.
You can choose love path or corruption path. Just choose the options that give points to the path you prefer.
And you can use cheat (in your room) to decrease the grind.
 
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We shall wait for your masterpiece to come out until then you shouldn't try to sell it as better.

Bastard girls is better? Thats even more buggy than the tyrant and the rest are VN's without any real freeroam, don't know about "Oppai comics games flrtyF" because i've never even seen it, so you compare apples and oranges.

See you in a few months when you present your masterpiece of a game.
The freeroaming is what fucked this game up. Even in My Legacy Saddo's coding was kind of shit. Saddo's work is janky, but the excellent renders, weird dialogue and oddly sexy situations make it great. If this had been a straightforward VN style game it would've been finished by now and it would have been better.

I don't personally enjoy NTR at all. I love Netori, where the guy steals the girl or multiple girls, but having the girls stolen feels awful to me. It could have fit in well to a conventional VN plot though, even the given options could've remained, but the way it is you just going through repeated content constantly and it's difficult to find the new stuff. I never even killed David, I couldn't find that part of the game because it's a mess of poorly implemented code. I think Saddo's really talented at what he does aside from coding, I just wish he'd stuck to his strengths.
 

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The freeroaming is what fucked this game up.
Nope. He overestimated his abilities.

Even in My Legacy Saddo's coding was kind of shit.
It was not kind of shit, even if you can do better, there is no need to insult. Problem with My Legacy is same, it's very complicated. In fact, My Legacy is not properly finished.


Saddo's work is janky, but the excellent renders, weird dialogue and oddly sexy situations make it great. If this had been a straightforward VN style game it would've been finished by now and it would have been better.
That's few wrong assumptions, first, if this was VN it doesn't mean it would be less complex to code. Take for example GGWB, classic novel with complex branchings... There was no way to tell this as straightforward VN... Further, why would any VN be better than sandbox? Gameplay mechanism is not quality per se, especially not porn games.

I don't personally enjoy NTR at all. I love Netori, where the guy steals the girl or multiple girls, but having the girls stolen feels awful to me..
Emh... you do know NTR is completely optional, and it makes less than third of game at current state?
 
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Nope. He overestimated his abilities.

It was not kind of shit, even if you can do better, there is no need to insult. Problem with My Legacy is same, it's very complicated. In fact, My Legacy is not properly finished.

That's few wrong assumptions, first, if this was VN it doesn't mean it would be less complex to code. Take for example GGWB, classic novel with complex branchings... There was no way to tell this as straightforward VN... Further, why would any VN be better than sandbox? Gameplay mechanism is not quality per se, especially not porn games.

Emh... you do know NTR is completely optional, and it makes less than third of game at current state?
I have no experience with coding, but you can tell when something is janky. The repeated content, events that had to happen before certain events coming up again, etc. all point to the game not being polished. In polished games you won't get that. You're allowed to be critical. I'm not saying it's shit to be mean to Saddo, I'm saying that relative to his other talents his coding seems super bad. His other stuff is, in my opinion, best in porn games.

I agree that My Legacy isn't properly finished, but it's much closer than this game. I'm not sure how long he spent on the two of them, but I do think it's a more complete experience than this one. Though I do prefer Tyrant and I feel that it had more potential.

I have no idea what GGWP is and googling it didn't help.

When I say I would prefer a straightup VN to this I mean that I don't like going around looking for the next flag/ watching repeated content after repeated content. I think it's a worse structure than My Legacy which was a bit more like a VN in that it was in chronological order and did not repeat content. To be clear, I like the choices you can make in scenes, I'm not saying I want away with those.

I do know that the NTR is optional, I never indicated otherwise. I'm not saying there is NTR therefore it is bad, I'm saying that I'm not interested in any of the NTR content. It's a purely subjective reaction. When I was writing it I was thinking more about how it's very common for characters to be the cuck rather than the guy cucking. Moreso in Hentai, etc. I'm just saying that I'm not a fan of that. I wish there was more usage of a Netori tag so that you could easily find what you're looking for as they're similar events that feel crutially different.
 

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I have no experience with coding, but you can tell when something is janky. The repeated content, events that had to happen before certain events coming up again, etc. all point to the game not being polished. In polished games you won't get that. You're allowed to be critical. I'm not saying it's shit to be mean to Saddo, I'm saying that relative to his other talents his coding seems super bad. His other stuff is, in my opinion, best in porn games.
Visual Novel doesn't mean there would be less coding. Story frame is complex, regarding of game mechanism. So, in short, code would be messy either way.

I have no idea what GGWP is and googling it didn't help.
Good Girl Went Bad. Classical Virtual Novel, with complex branching.... It has many branches and different outcomes, so it still has complex code. An example for point above.

When I say I would prefer a straightup VN to this I mean that I don't like going around looking for the next flag/ watching repeated content after repeated content.
Then don't repeat them. Problem is he never implemented planned events. He wrote about adding new daily interactions with Cassandra, Alexis, and Irina, and further options to Nicole bedroom event. Problem is missing content, not game mechanics... Anyway, I do understand you prefer VN, but it doesn't mean this game would be better as VN. Amount of code would be roughly the same... Game itself is painfully easy to play, Honestly I don't see how would switch from sandbox to VN, or vice versa improve any game...

Bottom line, I can imagine this story as VN, but it would still be complex VN with lot of branches and outcomes. For the coder, it's complex task, roughly as hard as implementing free roam with multiple events... For the players, some would feel it more smooth, but you would still need to press right triggers, and it wouldn't mean desired goal would be reached.

I do know that the NTR is optional, I never indicated otherwise. I'm not saying there is NTR therefore it is bad, I'm saying that I'm not interested in any of the NTR content. It's a purely subjective reaction. When I was writing it I was thinking more about how it's very common for characters to be the cuck rather than the guy cucking. Moreso in Hentai, etc. I'm just saying that I'm not a fan of that. I wish there was more usage of a Netori tag so that you could easily find what you're looking for as they're similar events that feel crutially different.
First thing I did, was to exclude NTR, and ignore it. Game was planned to have Corruption path, where MC molests games (I might be wrong, but I think it's what saddoggames prefers, as My Legacy was about it), Love, where is romancing them, and third which was most complex, It was where he looks how girls are molested, but he enters the gang, takes it over, and conquers the girls... (and molest/romance them)... But it didn't work, since supporters were either interested in straight up Corruption/Love paths minus the NTR, or straight up NTR...
 

class0917

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Hi. If "Saddoggames" can't continue develop this game is there not anyone else that can take over? It would be sad to see a game with one of the best intrigue out there come to an early end.
/Clas
 

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He made some update on 9.5 idk why it's tagged abandoned?

as long as I remembered, abandoned tag here is used when there is no official update from the developer. I meant, if there was no update in 3 months, automatically/ manually f95 system would give this thread abandoned status. Saddog last update was in June 15th, so today you can count it, more than 3 months
 
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