Just to be clear, i only bitch about ntr, when it shows up out of the blue, in a game not tagged for it, or when i see guys trolling for it in a game that clearly is not about it. Check out the thread "Love and submission ". First we get the mandatory shitstorm of folks scared that ntr might show up, Dev says "read my lips, no fucking way ", then we get pro-ntr guys whining about how they didn't get ntr shoehorned into it. Personally, i'm all for labels. A Dev should come out at 0.1 and list everything we're gonna see , that's the right way. Saddo did it, so i have no reason to bitch about it.