swextal

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Can anyone share save file or walkthrough for v.0.4.5
Included in Torrent on a previous page, both NTR and non-NTR versions. Also, try search, and thou shall find gold... Btw you also need the old walkthrough for 0.3.5. New walkthroughs are for differences between the 0.3.5 WT and 0.4.5 differences.
 

tsunku

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ok this is annoying, one point i'm a member of the gang, then suddenly i'm not a member of the gang?? wtf?!?!? also in the walkthrough it keeps saying The Event, what is The Event?!? btw non-ntr... also the mom only appeared in the basement 1 time, we drank, at first i drugged her, then i didn't, but it's never repeated since.... and no alexis event in the basement unless i force it in my room. i've shown her all the different videos over a dozen times each, so what gives?!?
 

Ignazzio

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It seems like dev overestimated his abilities when it comes to coding as game is clearly more and more incosistent. At this point I have my doubt about whole game being as open as he described at first. Another minor thing is that I don't really like this S&M stuff so it's kind of a wasted opportunity for a decent NTR in my opinion.
 
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DRinWV

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How do you get the new NTR event with Nicole ? Walkthrough says :

- you must be a gangmember > done
- her relationship must be 5 or lower > done
- the event will start when you go at 10pm at the living room and end this event > huh? I went to the living room at 10pm, I can only talk to Nicole, Davide and Bruce and then I have to chose "Don't let her" or "Do nothing". I did both and had the same scene with Davide teasing MC with Nicole before going to basement. End of scene. At 11pm MC is in front of basement door but nothing new. Only options are look, open door (both useless) and listen.
Yeah I was hoping once I became a gang member I could get downstairs at 11 when Nicole Bruce and Davide was in the basement. I can only get there when talking to all three in the living room.
 

HeavyEavy

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ok this is annoying, one point i'm a member of the gang, then suddenly i'm not a member of the gang?? wtf?!?!? also in the walkthrough it keeps saying The Event, what is The Event?!? btw non-ntr... also the mom only appeared in the basement 1 time, we drank, at first i drugged her, then i didn't, but it's never repeated since.... and no alexis event in the basement unless i force it in my room. i've shown her all the different videos over a dozen times each, so what gives?!?
Yes, I'm in the same boat. I've de-compiled it and started reading his code and it's in a very sad state. Well over 75% of the game is NTR, and the coding is what I would consider piss poor at best.
It seems like dev overestimated his abilities when it comes to coding
I would fire this guy it's so bad, if I were an instructor/professor I would give him a C-. Code wise, there is ZERO structure to his code/layout/logic, The basement code isn't even in his basement.rpy file, it's scattered all over the place with bits and pieces everywhere, it's an absolute nightmare to 'step' through his code. It looks like he adds stuff, then hacks his own stuff to get the new stuff to work... A lot of it is fixable, but I'm not sure it would do any good. It is ashamed though it started as a pretty good game and appears to be moving into the "Dairyman's" Category as he's just going to milk his patreons for all he can. I base this on a few facts, he hasn't even fixed things that were reported in the OP, the community is doing more bug fixes than he is. As for now it looks like the 'best' way to play is NTR Enabled then cheat to stop it (add love, relationship points and money) since it's starts happening before you are in a position to stop it. I haven't tried it yet, and looking at the code it may not help. There is a mod that does fix a bunch of stuff on the NTR side here:
 

cleanfeel

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Yes, I'm in the same boat. I've de-compiled it and started reading his code and it's in a very sad state. Well over 75% of the game is NTR, and the coding is what I would consider piss poor at best.

I would fire this guy it's so bad, if I were an instructor/professor I would give him a C-. Code wise, there is ZERO structure to his code/layout/logic, The basement code isn't even in his basement.rpy file, it's scattered all over the place with bits and pieces everywhere, it's an absolute nightmare to 'step' through his code. It looks like he adds stuff, then hacks his own stuff to get the new stuff to work... A lot of it is fixable, but I'm not sure it would do any good. It is ashamed though it started as a pretty good game and appears to be moving into the "Dairyman's" Category as he's just going to milk his patreons for all he can. I base this on a few facts, he hasn't even fixed things that were reported in the OP, the community is doing more bug fixes than he is. As for now it looks like the 'best' way to play is NTR Enabled then cheat to stop it (add love, relationship points and money) since it's starts happening before you are in a position to stop it. I haven't tried it yet, and looking at the code it may not help. There is a mod that does fix a bunch of stuff on the NTR side here:
I've never worked with Renpy before, but can someone actually go into the download, open up the .renpy files, and refactor the code? How do you recompile the game? Do you have the steps it takes to refactor a game in renpy? I wanna take a crack at it.
 

Valoryn

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is the basement event with nicole (11pm) (with the outfits) just a 1-time thing?

in the basement event w/ alexis (4am), mc can fuck her mouth or ass but interrupted when trying to fuck her pussy?
 

Snugglepuff

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Apr 27, 2017
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Can you guys tell me what does NTR mean, and what does it changes in the game ? ty
NTR = Cuckolding/infidelity/cheating.

There's really no NTR as such, at least as a technicality.
What there is, is basically other guys fucking/doing anything sexual with the family/women in the house the Player Character lives.

If you play with it turned off, you don't see it (it still happens, you just never get to see it) and also miss out on character insights and story/plot related stuff that comes out during those scenes.
With it turned on, you can avoid those scenes from happening at all with the relationship system.

There's also the "Hard NTR" setting which is basically Nightmare Mode where you pretty much can't avoid the "ntr" stuff.
 
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Yes, I'm in the same boat. I've de-compiled it and started reading his code and it's in a very sad state. Well over 75% of the game is NTR, and the coding is what I would consider piss poor at best.

I would fire this guy it's so bad, if I were an instructor/professor I would give him a C-. Code wise, there is ZERO structure to his code/layout/logic, The basement code isn't even in his basement.rpy file, it's scattered all over the place with bits and pieces everywhere, it's an absolute nightmare to 'step' through his code. It looks like he adds stuff, then hacks his own stuff to get the new stuff to work... A lot of it is fixable, but I'm not sure it would do any good. It is ashamed though it started as a pretty good game and appears to be moving into the "Dairyman's" Category as he's just going to milk his patreons for all he can. I base this on a few facts, he hasn't even fixed things that were reported in the OP, the community is doing more bug fixes than he is. As for now it looks like the 'best' way to play is NTR Enabled then cheat to stop it (add love, relationship points and money) since it's starts happening before you are in a position to stop it. I haven't tried it yet, and looking at the code it may not help. There is a mod that does fix a bunch of stuff on the NTR side here:
Unfortunately I have to agree with you 100%. When 0.4.5 came out I tried to fix the bugs myself. I was shocked when I saw the total mess after I decompiled the game. There is no structure at all and a lot of copy&paste which makes the code prone to bugs and very hard to maintain.

I doubt that the game will ever be more than a loose collection of scenes with no logical interconnections.
He'd need to completely refactor the codebase which of course would anger his paying customers because they wouldn't see any content updates for a while.
 

Glave27

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Unfortunately I have to agree with you 100%. When 0.4.5 came out I tried to fix the bugs myself. I was shocked when I saw the total mess after I decompiled the game. There is no structure at all and a lot of copy&paste which makes the code prone to bugs and very hard to maintain.

I doubt that the game will ever be more than a loose collection of scenes with no logical interconnections.
He'd need to completely refactor the codebase which of course would anger his paying customers because they wouldn't see any content updates for a while.
Heh. Thought the same thing. Had to download grep for Windows so I could follow certain variables across rpy files. Should just consolidate everything into one main.rpy file for overall game logic and have it call others for specific events/locations.
 
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