Ren'Py The Tyrant [v0.9.6] [Saddoggames]
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- Mar 6, 2019
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I love saddogLook, I have said you don't know what I wanted to say, but I will try once more.
First, Saddog has some experience in coding with python. He already made one less complicated game. He went this time with far more sophisticated project, and it works, not always perfectly, but he goes, and will hopefully finish it. He is not profesional programmer but he has some experience. Few years, even as hobby, is still some experience.
SAZ's mod is primarily focused on introduction of new content, primarily fan art. Yes, he has some knowledge of python coding, but from what I have seen, it's mostly from work on this mod, for last few months. It's of course ok, and more then I know about python, but it's less experience than what Saddog has, and it's not enough to deal with complicated things Saddog envisioned, but has problems with producing it in code.
If you don't understand the difference... well...
PS; codified and coded are rather different things.
I just say that ... this. Game requires also SAZ skill with Animations...
I love saddog story
I love this game
But requires some help to be better
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people comparing 2 devs with different MO,s and roles is a little silly.
1) Saddog started this project and gets paid to do it. His concept was a great plan, great images but story was all over the show. Also as getting paid, he tries to set deadlines, but hard to do with RL when this is not your job.
SAZ does it as a labor of love (aka for Free) as he loved the concept, but wanted a better story flow. HE works a RL job and does this when he has time
2) Saddog did a linear style game then for this project wanted a sandbox style, this is a very different way to code a game and some of the code causes a lot of errors, like clothes as he learns. Big point still not abandoned (i hope).
SAZ did use base code up until about version 7 (ish) then due to above clothes he split to a non instruive Mod instead of overwriting Core game. (if you think he is coping i suggest you do a Diff between core game and mod).
SAZ added a ton of more story and split the NTR into 4 versions after requests from others, the extra images are his and from the Fan art thread. Animation is from another person and installed as an add on.
3) Saddog did built a cheat menu and UI that works.
SAZ made a completely new cheat menu and UI.
4) Saddog is know to go incommunicado for weeks and the odd month, which as people pay him is a little odd but seem to work as still gets paid.
SAZ until COVID was always answering questions within 24hr of post and marking posts he read. Provides updates when he has something to update.
I respect saddog for starting and not abandoning the game like others do, and cerating the characters, renders and core story we all love.
I love S A Z 's version for additional ways to play and extras he added (I like the UI, but not for everyone).
Both these coders deserve a round of appreciation for this world of Tyrant esp for those like me that are not paying anything for the game.
1) Saddog started this project and gets paid to do it. His concept was a great plan, great images but story was all over the show. Also as getting paid, he tries to set deadlines, but hard to do with RL when this is not your job.
SAZ does it as a labor of love (aka for Free) as he loved the concept, but wanted a better story flow. HE works a RL job and does this when he has time
2) Saddog did a linear style game then for this project wanted a sandbox style, this is a very different way to code a game and some of the code causes a lot of errors, like clothes as he learns. Big point still not abandoned (i hope).
SAZ did use base code up until about version 7 (ish) then due to above clothes he split to a non instruive Mod instead of overwriting Core game. (if you think he is coping i suggest you do a Diff between core game and mod).
SAZ added a ton of more story and split the NTR into 4 versions after requests from others, the extra images are his and from the Fan art thread. Animation is from another person and installed as an add on.
3) Saddog did built a cheat menu and UI that works.
SAZ made a completely new cheat menu and UI.
4) Saddog is know to go incommunicado for weeks and the odd month, which as people pay him is a little odd but seem to work as still gets paid.
SAZ until COVID was always answering questions within 24hr of post and marking posts he read. Provides updates when he has something to update.
I respect saddog for starting and not abandoning the game like others do, and cerating the characters, renders and core story we all love.
I love S A Z 's version for additional ways to play and extras he added (I like the UI, but not for everyone).
Both these coders deserve a round of appreciation for this world of Tyrant esp for those like me that are not paying anything for the game.
- Mar 6, 2019
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Thanks for your post
I totally agree except to the fact that SAZ version is not for everyone...
I think SAZ version totally respect the spirit of saddog storylines adding e very good game playing for everyone avoiding the confusion generated by the sandbox style that is not well codified in the original game.
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- Apr 10, 2018
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Not really, people and not really two developers. One is a developer, and other is a modder. Difference is significant.
My Legacy is not linear Virtual Novel.
I am not sure what do you want to argue here. SAZ's mod is like extension to the game, not fork of the game. Anyway, I was talking about this, saddog is a developer with intermediate coding skills, and SAZ is advanced beginner. Biggest problem of game is that Saddog needs advanced skills in order to implement his designs. Cheers.
I can't find the 8.5 version. Is there anyway I can download older versions? I wanna try the SAZ mod with no errors.
It really is.
There's no sandbox or free-roam to it, and there's very little freedom to how you play, since it affects the endings.
Honestly, both you and defd need to stop arguing about the merits of the mod in this thread.
Also, defd stop spamming the thread with multiple posts so close together. Use the edit button if it's only been a few minutes since your last post, and when you're the last person who posted.
- Apr 10, 2018
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It has two dozens of endings, so of course there is some freedom to play, otherwise how to get different endings. Besides verry fact that there are different endings undermines concept of linearity. It might not be pure sandbox, maybe hybrid sandbox-vn, but saying it's linear is overstatement. But ok, my point wasn't to go in further than this.
I didn't argue, I said what I think. Have nice afternoon.
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- Jan 27, 2018
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No. I don't thinks that's it. I can go to the gym but this location is not accesible.
- Apr 10, 2018
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Judging by changelog, I think it's location of NTR event. I think you need to be on that path in order to go there.
Bakkis15 sorry, I have quoted your message by incident.
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- Jun 7, 2018
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That's the tanning salon, at 5 pm you can work there or, if you buy some time, interact briefly with Cassandra and her friend Monique.
Perhaps a bit of a random question, but what is your relationship with Cassandra, above or below the NTR cutoff? Because I think that's an NTR scene with Cassandra and Davide at the gym, and you might not be able to access it if you're not on that route.
- Mar 10, 2018
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Linear Visual Novel basically tells one story with one true canon ending, linear. My Legacy is basically a normal/traditional style visual novel where your choices can lead to multiple canon endings.