DeVilBro

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Obviously because that stupid game had a metric shit ton of rip offs.
Why are some devs obsessed with this one project! There are some other projects that could use a remake.
Specially some nice rpgm projects...players would love to have a renpy remake of those.
 
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Not true at all. Copyright also applies to images and other forms of artistic work. Copyright almost certainly expends not only to images already provided in-game, but to any models that were substantively altered from base (the base model would remain copyright the original creator, the derivative work would be copyright the dev based on his license to use the original work).

do games work as a "artistic work" ? (is serious wondering)


yes i know about the in theory "copyright" that gets auto apply when people create stuff but in practice it sadly works different from what i have seen

if say just for as a example: the original model creator dislike how much hate he has gotten due to something saddoggames have done then the original creator of the model "base model" can remove saddoggames right to use his copyrighted model with then saddoggames can not really do anything then redo all the scenes in the game with does models so even if in theory saddoggames have copyright to the "looks" the model currently has in practice that is pretty much worthless if saddoggames lose the right to use the original model or the "base model"

you only need to look to some fan made mods or even movies to see how copyright works in practice because many of them has been copyright strikes to death by the original copyright holder despise the "artistic work" does fans did do when they made the mod or movie

heck i think even the story my has too many common tropes to be copyrighted in practice because it exist people who has sued someone ales just because they story is too similar to works that the person who made the claim but they lost due to the fact that just because the story my or not be similar or some character looks similar is not enough to go on for suing for copyright claim so in the end based from what i know and read about copyright in practice any "copyright" saddoggames has is pretty much worthless but sure i too wish that copyright works almost the same as in theory

but i end on is one thing that i said in the text you qoute of me " but then in the end i don't knows every copyright laws in the world "
 

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do games work as a "artistic work" ? (is serious wondering)


yes i know about the in theory "copyright" that gets auto apply when people create stuff but in practice it sadly works different from what i have seen

if say just for as a example: the original model creator dislike how much hate he has gotten due to something saddoggames have done then the original creator of the model "base model" can remove saddoggames right to use his copyrighted model with then saddoggames can not really do anything then redo all the scenes in the game with does models so even if in theory saddoggames have copyright to the "looks" the model currently has in practice that is pretty much worthless if saddoggames lose the right to use the original model or the "base model"

you only need to look to some fan made mods or even movies to see how copyright works in practice because many of them has been copyright strikes to death by the original copyright holder despise the "artistic work" does fans did do when they made the mod or movie

heck i think even the story my has too many common tropes to be copyrighted in practice because it exist people who has sued someone ales just because they story is too similar to works that the person who made the claim but they lost due to the fact that just because the story my or not be similar or some character looks similar is not enough to go on for suing for copyright claim so in the end based from what i know and read about copyright in practice any "copyright" saddoggames has is pretty much worthless but sure i too wish that copyright works almost the same as in theory

but i end on is one thing that i said in the text you qoute of me " but then in the end i don't knows every copyright laws in the world "
The rules of a game do not. The presentation and interior artwork do count.

Generally no. The model was licensed for commercial use. Unless the licence includes a right to review (and it won't) or a morals clause (incredibly unlikely) then the original artist has no right to restrict use that it was properly licensed for.
 
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Why are some devs obsessed with this one project! There are some other projects that could use a remake.
Specially some nice rpgm projects...players would love to have a renpy remake of those.
I don't know and i can't even understand it but i agree that there are a lot of projects that would make for nice remakes or even continuations if they were abandoned the only problem i see there would be that the projects will loose their original charme because things like visuals and writing will change a lot since everyone has his/her own style.
 
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DeVilBro

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I don't know and i can't even understand it but i agree that there are a lot of projects that would make for nice remakes or even continuations if they were abandoned the only problem i see there would be that the projects will loose their original charme because things like visuals and writing will change a lot since everyone has his/her own style.
True but it's better to have a complete story through remake than an abandoned story.
 
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sserobinsse

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is the game abandoned or is there some hope left?
in all honesty we don't know games get marked abandoned here on f95zone when it ha not gotten any updates in X amount of month(forgot how many month it need to had gone for it to be marked as abandoned)


it is completely possible that Saddoggames has choose to not update people because Saddoggames want to focus on updating the game but from what i know Saddoggames has not updating the Patreon so i don't know for sure perhaps other know more
 
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in all honesty we don't know games get marked abandoned here on f95zone when it ha not gotten any updates in X amount of month(forgot how many month it need to had gone for it to be marked as abandoned)


it is completely possible that Saddoggames has choose to not update people because Saddoggames want to focus on updating the game but from what i know Saddoggames has not updating the Patreon so i don't know for sure perhaps other know more
thanks man....lets hope for the best...also the walkthrough's not updated...is there any scene with susan as of yet?
 

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is the game abandoned or is there some hope left?
There is a specified amount of months for the creator not to talk about any updates or any releases for it to be declared as "Abandoned" on f95. This happened 3rd time already so we may still have hope for this game. I don't think that this game is going to be abandoned yet.
 

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There is a specified amount of months for the creator not to talk about any updates or any releases for it to be declared as "Abandoned" on f95. This happened 3rd time already so we may still have hope for this game. I don't think that this game is going to be abandoned yet.
Hope !? The author has not provided any information for 6 months.
 
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Worst part about the radio silence is that the dev is still active on this site. Hasn't posted anything here since jan last year but is viewing other threads. Probably best to just give up any hopes of this coming back.

There is a specified amount of months for the creator not to talk about any updates or any releases for it to be declared as "Abandoned" on f95. This happened 3rd time already so we may still have hope for this game. I don't think that this game is going to be abandoned yet.
3 months of radio silence is when a game gets marked abandoned, it gets changed when a new version is released.
 

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Worst part about the radio silence is that the dev is still active on this site. Hasn't posted anything here since jan last year but is viewing other threads. Probably best to just give up any hopes of this coming back.
It's just sad because this game has a lot of potentials, I never was into this game with high hopes, but if this flow keeps up it better be the way it is now. I'm still amazed by the number of people supporting this project, I wish if that number would motivate the creator to think about this project once again.
 

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It's just sad because this game has a lot of potentials, I never was into this game with high hopes, but if this flow keeps up it better be the way it is now. I'm still amazed by the number of people supporting this project, I wish if that number would motivate the creator to think about this project once again.
Nothing stopping people from just making a similar game with a similar concept.
 
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Skads

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why not just take over this game its almost complete if someone wanted to they could wrap it up
Piggybacking off of someone else's hard work will gain the ire of the community. It'd also show what sort of game it will be if the developer isn't good enough to start their own project. Doing so would lead to very little support and respect, if any.
 
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