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are you sure?
you will miss for sure
1 scene in the restaurant with mom and the boss of the other gang...
1 scene in the weekend with for each ne of the girls and the sbway scane with mom...

whoring girls in the city you will lost all of them
The scene with Cassandra Irina and Frank... you will lost that too.

Those scene are very well written in the storyline... and there are not if you turn off NTR...
in practice you will lose about 75% of the scenes
I agree about subway (however I think there was a Nic and MC scene added, but as I only play SAZ MOD I could be wrong), but each of the others have a NTR and non-ntr version

Cassandra Irina and Frank is equal to you Irina and cass
Love/corr has a counter scene for each non-NTR on weekend. though I will admit NTR has more sexy, which is why SAZ worked to balance it out.

as for the writting I prefer SAZ writing style but to each their own
 

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So you're saying this is a NTR focused game with a non NTR route tacked on as as afterthought thanks for clearing that up.
I mean if Saddogg was going to half ass the non ntr route it should've just been dropped but then most people would have never given it a chance. I think its hilarious that you keep praising this story like its "Citizen Kane" I mean its porn for gods sake
I just talk about the story and MC... an
technically you can turn ntr off of course... and saddog has its good reasons. He is a professional all NTR games comes with ntr scene aviodable...

but this is not my way to play this story
I'm always focused to the MC and the best way to win in the game
...the story is very intriguing

for me this game must be played with NTR ON to get a sense... otherwise the MC will never know how the story was before he will back...
the MC have to èòay a lot of week bebore became a gangmember.. he would be very stupid if thinks that mom and other gang member will never had sex...

So the only way to win... is know exactly what was happened during the college years.
 

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I agree about subway (however I think there was a Nic and MC scene added, but as I only play SAZ MOD I could be wrong), but each of the others have a NTR and non-ntr version

Cassandra Irina and Frank is equal to you Irina and cass
Love/corr has a counter scene for each non-NTR on weekend. though I will admit NTR has more sexy, which is why SAZ worked to balance it out.

as for the writting I prefer SAZ writing style but to each their own
but if you play you will get both scenes with irina cassandra mc and frank.. they are different
I do not like to be a cuckold that do not know what is happening on my sluts.
 

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I get that this is a rare game and I am enjoying the game for the most part but this story/game style doesn't make any sense. How can a MC peruse BOTH a love and a corrupt path? How can a MC bounce around from fucking his mom calling her his "slut" and then the next day pretends like it never happened? I get that it isn't a VN and I love that but simply unlocking scenes doesn't feel like playing a game, advancing a story, advancing relationships, pregnancy, etc.. It's simply unlocking a gallery.

If instead it was about having specific stats and making specific choices in scenes to earn you specific relationship titles, which in turn unlocks a set number of scenes that make sense for that relationship then it'd make sense. At least you could create a world that would reflect your decisions. Whether that's a loving romantic set of relationships or a corrupt harem or even a NTR hellscape (or paradise. whatever is your preference). However this game just seems like random nonsense, just throwing whatever into a sandbox and seeing whatever's popular. Again I'm loving the overall story idea, I love the images, I love the scenes, I love the open world gameplay, I think the relationships could be better defined, but overall throwing everything together doesn't seem like a good idea. Just my opinion. I hope I'm wrong and the game gets better in the end but to me it just seems like the characters have severe bipolar disorder or something when one minute there all lovey dovey and the next they're submissive sluts.
I agree that text/scenes need to change to reflect changes in relationship/love/corr status, which saddog seems to have started by removing some scenes that make no sense to repeat (meet the boyfriend). You need to remember it is a work in progress and unlike some games where updates add days/content to the end this one is more work on a part of the whole as it goes.
 
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but if you play you will get both scenes with irina cassandra mc and frank.. they are different
I do not like to be a cuckold that do not know what is happening on my sluts.
yeah but I am fine missing ugly fat guy with hot girls lol
 

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The point is simple
NTR off will turn off relationship system point... so the MC will remain always with the same points
only corruption and love poimts will move

is a semplified way to play for the ntr haters

the full game is with all èonit sistem active... and you have to take atention on what you want to do..
it is for expert players.

I play this game as MC.. and I want to know everything about this great story
 

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Looking at the comments from the search function.

It seems that even with NTR OFF, the basement stuff actually happens, but people are defenting it with "Pretend it doesnt happen" , "We dont know what actually happens there" etc ...
 

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They are free to ignore...
but not me as the MC of this game
There are more than 6/7 billions of human in this planet... I never will understand people that was born in this world and they think that her moms was never fucked...
They were brought by the storks?
They post here without think that if the world was without perverts females and males...
our dads will never grope hour moms... no one will be able to post here.. due to the extinction of the human race

Without sex the world would be a sad desert!
 
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I agree about subway (however I think there was a Nic and MC scene added, but as I only play SAZ MOD I could be wrong), but each of the others have a NTR and non-ntr version

Cassandra Irina and Frank is equal to you Irina and cass
Love/corr has a counter scene for each non-NTR on weekend. though I will admit NTR has more sexy, which is why SAZ worked to balance it out.

as for the writting I prefer SAZ writing style but to each their own
Actually, there are scenes which doesn't have NTR version (Nicole vomiting sex, Alexis in shower, Cassandra in her room), not to mention there are more of non ntr variations in scenes like 3pm shower, basement etc... but honestly, even bare fact that there are two non ntr routes vs one ntr means there is more of non ntr scenes...
 

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Actually, there are scenes which doesn't have NTR version (Nicole vomiting sex, Alexis in shower, Cassandra in her room), not to mention there are more of non ntr variations in scenes like 3pm shower, basement etc... but honestly, even bare fact that there are two non ntr routes vs one ntr means there is more of non ntr scenes...
Nicole vomit sex is also in the ntr on .... Just give her the sexdrug in the basement meeting
All not-ntr scenes are available based on relationship point
 
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This is a trick of the game ehehehe! (that in the saz mod was was modded)
You are playing the original game

Too fast means that you go tp be a gang member after selling just 2 boxes
so you will not be able to unlock all scenes in the story..

This is a game..it is not a VN!

there is built in cheat but you can use that only after the first 2 weeks when the relationship point system will be active paths
Love and Corruption must be played at the same time...
if you go only on Corruption or only on the Love path you will remain STUCK!

Only the NTR scenes are avoidable but the Love/Corruption scenes can be without NTR and can be played without limits

You have to stay focused on all the stats parameters
Love/Corruption point must be on balance ... you wull be able to play ALL PATHS
Well i didnt cheat once and i only had to sell 2 boxes. Do i have to start over or can i still unlock all paths?
 

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Well i didnt cheat once and i only had to sell 2 boxes. Do i have to start over or can i still unlock all paths?
He's lying.
Saddog himself changed the number of deliveries needed from 5, to only 2. Been that way for quite some time.

There is at least one story-centric plot point where your actions, love/corruption stats dictate outcome in such a way as to "close" or "lockout" certain things.
Making Nicole the MC's slut on Corruption path, allows Cass to be in the gang without Nicole freaking out like she does on her love path.

What do you mean too fast? After I sold 2 drugbox at subway davide makes me a gangmember instantly. Yeah more than 6 weekends happened. I raised my stats with the cheats tho. I first did the love dates. Am I locked out because of it?
As above, he's lying.
Saddog changed how many boxes need to be delivered from the original 5, to only 2, long ago. Too many people were whining about it... Almost as many as didn't read what they told to do in order to actually make the deliveries in the first place.
 

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Well i didnt cheat once and i only had to sell 2 boxes. Do i have to start over or can i still unlock all paths?
Unfortunately you can’t because at 9: PM you will no longer able to get the drug red boxes
You have to start again from the start Collecting every evening 1 box from Monday to Friday = 5 boxes
Important: for doing that you have to avoid/skip the living room at 10:00PM otherwise davede will be happy to mae you a gangmamber --- but by this way you will be no longer able to get more than 3 boxes

Than weekend ... on Monday you will be able to get the box number 6.
now you can sell on Tuesday and Thursday... this phase requires 3 weeks... after the fourth weekend all scenes will be unlocked... and watch all scenes not-NTR scenes can be played at first 3/4 weeks by check on relationship points and NTR at the end of the game... just to avoid to much repetitive scenes ... if the stats have reached the correct amount of love/corruption points.... I think the game requires about 8 weekends to get the end of the version... but I’m not sure... bc I played the SAZ mod version...

now saz mod is not yet avaible so we have to play the original version.
Sorry for the errors I’m on the phone so is not easy... I will fix some when I’m on the computer

hope this helps
 
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He's lying.
Saddog himself changed the number of deliveries needed from 5, to only 2. Been that way for quite some time.

There is at least one story-centric plot point where your actions, love/corruption stats dictate outcome in such a way as to "close" or "lockout" certain things.
Making Nicole the MC's slut on Corruption path, allows Cass to be in the gang without Nicole freaking out like she does on her love path.



As above, he's lying.
Saddog changed how many boxes need to be delivered from the original 5, to only 2, long ago. Too many people were whining about it... Almost as many as didn't read what they told to do in order to actually make the deliveries in the first place.
Thanks for clarification :)
 

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The saz mod do not requires the 5 box delivery... but the original version is not changed... as I know... so the scene at 11:00 PM in the basement cannot be unlocked
 

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He's lying.
Saddog himself changed the number of deliveries needed from 5, to only 2. Been that way for quite some time.
I'm sure you are wrong!
You are confusing the saz mod with the original game (this is the original and the start is perfect and was never be changed)

this is normal game trick made because you have not go to fast--- you have to read all text lines and you have to make money before able to challenge for get The MC Family back to him

only saz mod allow that with 2 boxes
there are a lot of people here that have already understand that I always check before writing a post
and yes I'm lying as it was in the post....

Edited because yesterday a was writing with my phone
 
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