JasNom

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There are usually 2 reasons why creators are leaving their projects. 1.Project-burnout. 2. Money. (or a mix of both)

When Patreon changed their policies for porn game relating non-consensual and incest content. A lot of projects got abandoned, since they would no longer make them money on Patreon. Project burnout is when a creator works for a long time on the same project can run into a creativity blockade. Especially when the creator works mostly alone this chance is even higher.
 

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I cannot believe 57 people are still giving money to this dev each month :rolleyes:
Talk about pissing your money away...no wonder the dev doesn't continue updating it, he gets paid to do nada.
Absolute mugs.
 

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I cannot believe 57 people are still giving money to this dev each month :rolleyes:
Talk about pissing your money away...no wonder the dev doesn't continue updating it, he gets paid to do nada.
Absolute mugs.
57 people, £160 per month... That's basically being paid nothing at all.

Those 57 people probably forgot they were even being billed for his Patreon, because he hasn't produced anything for over two years.
 
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57 people, £160 per month... That's basically being paid nothing at all.

Those 57 people probably forgot they were even being billed for his Patreon, because he hasn't produced anything for over two years.
With the cost of living these days, I would love getting £160 a month for nothing. If you add that to the devs monthly wages/benefits, it' still a nice top up for no extra time or labour. Damn I need to learn Ren'py and Daz.
 

Snugglepuff

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With the cost of living these days, I would love getting £160 a month for nothing. If you add that to the devs monthly wages/benefits, it' still a nice top up for no extra time or labour. Damn I need to learn Ren'py and Daz.
"Woo-hoo, forgetful idiots paid my energy bill for the month... I can finally afford to turn the brightness up on my laptop screen!"
 

JasNom

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You guys shitting your pants for someone who gets a few bucks for free while there are hundreds of thousands of people getting thousands and millions of dollars just because they own real estate, stock or some other shit that comes care-free, while this guy actually did sunk a lot of his time in a project that obviously burned him out.
 
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You guys shitting your pants for someone who gets a few bucks for free while there are hundreds of thousands of people getting thousands and millions of dollars just because they own real estate, stock or some other shit that comes care-free, while this guy actually did sunk a lot of his time in a project that obviously burned him out.
Disregarding the whataboutism, Saddog is profiting from a project he's abandoned and never publicly acknowledged is in that state
If people want to raise an eyebrow because something they care about was mishandled and that the person who mishandled it (regardless of his reasons) is still somehow making money off of it, that's their prerogative
Developers who silently abandon their games without shutting down the revenue streams from those games are a dime a dozen. They don't need you defending their poor practices, as the little check they get in the mail likely does that well enough for them
 

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There's always the White Knight who comes riding in to help enable these guys continue this kind of behavior. I'm sure the next time the dev comes by on one of his regular silent visits, he will appreciate it. Shit, I dropped my violin :rolleyes:
 
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There's always the White Knight who comes riding in to help enable these guys continue this kind of behavior. I'm sure the next time the dev comes by on one of his regular silent visits, he will appreciate it. Shit, I dropped my violin :rolleyes:
Communication definitely should have been better. At least an update to Patreons "About us" page, so that people don't sign up for a game that will never finish.

But to get this straight. You went to a pirate site, to steal from an indie dev who put thousands of hours into his work.
And you cry river about unfairness because of a few dollars?

Give me that violin when you are done.
 

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Communication definitely should have been better. At least an update to Patreons "About us" page, so that people don't sign up for a game that will never finish.

But to get this straight. You went to a pirate site, to steal from an indie dev who put thousands of hours into his work.
And you cry river about unfairness because of a few dollars?

Give me that violin when you are done.
Personally if people want to give their money to a dev who just sits back and takes it while maintaining complete silence, then that's their loss, especially if they are aware the dev is doing this. I don't pay this dev, true, so it doesn't affect me. It's more the fact that the dev has been silent over the last 2 years, stills visits this thread and takes the money with no communication.

On the other hand there are also devs on here who communicate with their supporters, pause their Patreon when updates aren't coming out and that, you can respect. If this dev got burnt out, had family/life problems (like we all do)...a simple statement would have been nice for his fanbase: "Sorry, I'm too burnt out to continue this game". That way people would be aware, but then that would have affected his Patreon numbers much faster. The fact that this dev visits this thread quite often over those 2 years and still does not make any statement is more a middle finger up at anyone who supports him. There are devs on here who have lost loved ones and still left an update before going dark.

Yep, I am a pirate but I also do support 2 devs on here who I find are deserving of it. So, should threads here only be for praise of devs?

Shitting on your fanbase from sites like F95 is pretty dumb since we often are the ones who support the games from the beginning, as well as making up a good number of that dev's Patreon supporters I imagine. Devs like DPC enjoyed that support until he got big enough to ditch his pirate supporters (and now he hates us :KEK:). BD over at WVM fucked over his fanbase for years but made the big mistake in making ridiculous and never-ending excuses over updates that never came when he promised or were chopped down a fraction of the size...and he rightfully incurred the wrath of his fanbase, losing many in the process.

But hey, I shouldn't complain by your logic, let's just keep quiet if devs take the piss out naive supporters, and in this case, ones who keep thinking he would come back.

The real shame is how close this game is to completion. The dev could probably have wrapped it up with only a couple of more updates.

TL;DR: Without us scurvy Pirates on here, many devs would be sunk in the water with little followers/support for their games and also the financial contribution from those who became Patreon followers. Criticism on here is to be expected if you earn it with sketchy behavior.
 
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