quert546

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I was thinking of subscribing to his Patreon account to check out the new stuff. However, I'm using a Mac and was wondering if he had updated the Mac to Beta 19 or higher instead of Beta 17
 

Sweet Burger

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"Oh no! Money, my only weakness! Curses, foiled again!." ZnelArts and the other innovative teams like Captain Hardcore etc deserves the income for the revolutionary tech they are doing. If you like the game, support it. I don't pay for EVERY game, but some you just wanna support in the development of more realism in sex games, as close to the real thing as possible.
This is what the GPU manufacturers secretly want to make better GPUs for. Full dive VR porn. One day, gents, one day.
I was worried that it was a link to a download and was concerned that the implied promise we did to the developer would be broken.
Maybe i should have worded my joke a bit better.
 

kraoro

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It's a great core concept, even for someone didn't think he was on board with the whole rapey "forced orgasm" thing. A lot of bizarre design choices, though. Like how the only way to get any character off is with the Hitachi, and while they moan in pleasure with other vibrators and hand gestures, those just lower Arousal dramatically. Selina Kyle trying to close her thighs in orgasm while strapped to a machine is a kink I didn't even know I had until a few minutes ago. So the game could definitely use better orgasm animations, like twiches, spasms, etc; it's far too common in porn games and professional porn that the only indication that a girl is having an orgasm is that she verbally tells you she is, then she pisses herself (squirting is not a real thing, by the way). Then again, real female orgasms are pretty much the only type of porn I watch, and hours spent watching IFeelMyself videos has inadvertantly made me something of an expert on the subject (#humblebrag).Mechanically, the game's a bit of a mess, though. Hand tracking and picking up/moving/using objects is kind of a pain in the ass.
 

FoXDoG

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(squirting is not a real thing, by the way). Then again, real female
Female ejaculation refers to the expulsion of fluid from a female’s urethra during orgasm or sexual arousal. The urethra is the duct that carries urine from the bladder to the outside of the body.
There are two different types of female ejaculate:
  • Squirting fluid. This fluid is usually colorless and odorless, and it occurs in large quantities.
  • Ejaculate fluid. This type more closely resembles male semen. It is typically thick and appears milky.
Analysis has shown that the fluid contains prostatic acid phosphatase (PSA). PSA is an enzyme present in male semen that helps sperm motility.
In addition, female ejaculate usually contains fructose, which is a form of sugar. Fructose is also generally present in male semen where it acts as an energy source for sperm.
Experts believe that the PSA and fructose present in the fluid come from the Skene’s glands. Other names for these glands include the paraurethral glands, Garter’s duct, and female prostate.
Skene’s glands sit on the front, inside wall of the vagina near the G-spot. Researchers believe that stimulation causes these glands to produce PSA and fructose, which then move into the urethra.

Is it real?

For many years, scientists thought that females who ejaculated during sex were experiencing continence problems. Research has since disproved this idea and confirmed the existence of female ejaculation.
A found that the fluid accumulates in the bladder during arousal and leaves through the urethra during ejaculation. Seven women who reported experiencing female ejaculation during sex took part in the trial.
First, the researchers used exams to confirm that the participants’ bladders were empty. The women then stimulated themselves until they ejaculated while the researchers continued to monitor them using ultrasounds.
The study found that all the women started with an empty bladder, which began to fill during arousal. The post-ejaculation scans revealed that the participants’ bladders were empty again.
 

acetken

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From the study you linked:
Conclusions
The present data based on ultrasonographic bladder monitoring and biochemical analyses indicate that squirting is essentially the involuntary emission of urine during sexual activity, although a marginal contribution of prostatic secretions to the emitted fluid often exists.
So yeah, it's pee.
 
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stinkyfish

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Where is your finished, feature-rich, outstanding work game?
While I do agree with the rest, I draw the line at sentences like this.
Just because we can't do it better - and yes, we can not do it better - doesn't mean we aren't allowed to state the obvious.
Its not like you can't make CM3D2 work if you want a bdsm simulator that is top notch.
It is disingenuous to act like Znel is above criticism just because he did his work in a field we know nothing about.
And before the rant continues I want to clarify that you are absolutely correct. All content here is ripped and free. People shouldn't be complaining at all and Znel is doing gods work out there. There can never be enough VR porn.
However, what many people - Znel included - apparently do not understand is, that piracy isn't something harmful. The people that want to buy the game, will buy the game, the people that weren't gonna spend money, won't spend money when forced. Just look at shit like Fate Grand Order. Probably millions of leeches play it for free and give the game massive exposure. The 5% of the people who actually spend money are still a million people who throw hundreds of Dollars at gatcha and therefore ensure that the company who programmed the game became filthy rich. Which wouldn't've been possible if not for the leechers that made the game popular.
TL;DR Piracy ain't so bad. And yes, people are fucking entitled around here. Me included.
 

mrme

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On a website dedicated to pirating hentai games, aren't the entitled ones the devs that expect their game to be a special exemption from the usual filesharing?

To be frank, if I'd paid money for this game in its current state I would've asked for a refund.
 

worlingkit

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Doesn't pation have to pay every month to download new versions? Am I getting at least some interesting version of the cost of the AAA game?
on the other hand, I would pay a one-time cost. I don't think the game will be ready even in 2 years, so the cost of the game will be like the cost of 10 games if you use patreon.
 
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lordlundar

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"It's free advertising!" - When exposure pays bills, let me know.
"The devs are entitled!" - Sure, how DARE someone politely ask for money in exchange for something they made. (oh, that's sarcasm if you can't clue into it)

Amazing the level of logic-bending going on to try to justify shitty behavior. Yes, I'm calling it out for exactly what it is. The people complaining are simply ones looking to just grab it and go without so much as a thank you yet want to whine when they can't have it the moment it's released. Here's a news flash for you. The creator has explicitly requested that it not be shared here and the people paying into his patreon are complying. That's their choice and you have no right to demand otherwise. Here, I'll point it out to you.

You.

Have.

No.

Right.

To.

Something.

You.

Did.

Not.

Pay.

For.

Not only that, this is not a rare thing on this site. Other creators have done similar and the the only times that there is any backlash from the community is when the creator comes in flamingly hostile. This site works well because of civility with creators that come in and are civil themselves. This attitude that people are somehow "owed" a free download and get pissy when they can't disrupts that and to be frank, if it persists then the site might as well shut down now. Otherwise a creator who's been civil with the community is going to get targeted for hostility and retaliate with a legal C&D order or get the attention of someone big who won't even bother with that and get the ISP to shut it down.

To summarize, get off your high horse and stop thinking you're "owed" something here.
 

mrg2018

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Just caught up on the past posts in my hunt for beta 21.
I would say if the game was a one time purchase instead of having to pay for every update and if it was a low price I would indeed purchase it. But i tried the whole patreon thing for a few adult VR titles then after a while I realised I had spent twice as much on what was essentially tech demos than I had on XStory, which I had viewed as overpriced at the time.
Do not get me wrong, I know we are not entitled to anything, but I will say I am sad to see this not being updated on here. My download would not represent a missed sale for the developer as I will never again pay monthly for a game.
 

ZnelArts

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Hello, I have read all posts and I appreciate your comments and feedback, I would like to address the biggest concern here. There is a one time purchase option on Both Patreon and Itch.io.
Patreon: You get an Itch key when you select the appropiate tier.
You will get all updates on Itch with some delay, usually 3 versions behind Patreon.

I would like to use this opportunity to let you know that my game is in a bundle with other great VR games for which this one time purchase on Itch also applies and you can get all of them at a discounted price:

I hope many of you that have been waiting for further development of the game can now be asured that their one time contribution will yield long term results, either by getting the game trough Patreon Itch Tier or directly on Itch you will be helping me continue developing this game and you will eventually have access to the full game. (No more need to spend time trying to find or asking for links =D)
 
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I was worried that it was a link to a download and was concerned that the implied promise we did to the developer would be broken.
Maybe i should have worded my joke a bit better.
It's okay, mate. I also tried to make a little joke back. I'm not angry at anyone in particular, just trying to show some support to devs more and try to encourage people to be kinder to each other and stop begging for free stuff from a clearly talented, struggling developer.

It's not like we have brain computer apps yet where we can think the perfect porn games into existence. Elon's probably on that shit though already.
 

p4p

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While I do agree with the rest, I draw the line at sentences like this.
Just because we can't do it better - and yes, we can not do it better - doesn't mean we aren't allowed to state the obvious.
Its not like you can't make CM3D2 work if you want a bdsm simulator that is top notch.
And i draw the line at people who criticise what they have no idea about. Programming is fucking hard. Unity is fucking bullshit sometimes. And its much more than just throw some assets together and make them fuck eachother. But people seems to forget that. I see so much disappointment in projects that AREN'T FINISHED YET. People see Patreon, and in Development and yet they somehow expect a AAA Title.
Just the same bullshit as with early access. People see a fat blue banner which says "EARLY ACCESS GAME - This Early Access game is not complete" and yet dare to complain that its not finished and are mad at developers.
On Patreon and Early access you DO NOT pay for the game. You paying for the privilege to play it while it's in development, The so called early access. You just get the game as a sideeffect because it would be suicide to take it away at release. Gamers begged so long for this, to participate in development. And now that we have it some entitled brats think someone owes them something. Actually we are the ones who owe because else development would happen behind closed doors and we would have no say in features etc.
And while it's true that some studios wouldn't exist without the support from early access, you have to keep in mind that that is also just a sideeffect. That entitles us to nothing and we can be glad that it went this way. At least i don't want to live in a world where EA, UBI and ActiBlizz are the only entities making games. Because their games are fucking garbage.

TLDR: if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.

It is disingenuous to act like Znel is above criticism just because he did his work in a field we know nothing about.
He is? Where? When? Quote something.

All i see is on one hand proper bug reports and feature requests. You know, constructive criticism. Which he reads and even answers to even though this isn't his patreon page. And on the other hand i see insults toward his work, which only spreads negativity and i don't see why a sane person should deal with that.


On a website dedicated to pirating hentai games, aren't the entitled ones the devs that expect their game to be a special exemption from the usual filesharing?
Please explain to me where he acts entitled. All Znel did was to promise to make the Sex-feature, which is in high demand here, a priority. Also he promised a special demo. Both if we don't post links. Everyone including Znel knows that links will get posted again as soon as these promises are fullfilled or if someone is tired waiting and posts an update, whichever comes first.

So in the end we didn't stop posting the links for Znel but for US, the members who want the stuff he promised.

If you don't want these features then feel free to go to his patreon, subscribe, reupload and post the link here just like i did. Nobody is stopping you. Do what you want because a Pirate is free.
To be frank, if I'd paid money for this game in its current state I would've asked for a refund.
if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.
$44 for that bundle is ludicrous. Especially considering that La Douche is garbage and you don't even get the real version of Holodexxx.
I agree, remove Holodexx crap and LaDouche and i'm in.


You will get all updates on Itch with some delay, usually 3 versions behind Patreon.
Just saw on itch you get Beta19, you might want to update that since it's the same version posted here ;)
 
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Etar

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And i draw the line at people who criticise what they have no idea about. Programming is fucking hard. Unity is fucking bullshit sometimes. And its much more than just throw some assets together and make them fuck eachother. But people seems to forget that. I see so much disappointment in projects that AREN'T FINISHED YET. People see Patreon, and in Development and yet they somehow expect a AAA Title.
Just the same bullshit as with early access. People see a fat blue banner which says "EARLY ACCESS GAME - This Early Access game is not complete" and yet dare to complain that its not finished and are mad at developers.
On Patreon and Early access you DO NOT pay for the game. You paying for the privilege to play it while it's in development, The so called early access. You just get the game as a sideeffect because it would be suicide to take it away at release. Gamers begged so long for this, to participate in development. And now that we have it some entitled brats think someone owes them something. Actually we are the ones who owe because else development would happen behind closed doors and we would have no say in features etc.
And while it's true that some studios wouldn't exist without the support from early access, you have to keep in mind that that is also just a sideeffect. That entitles us to nothing and we can be glad that it went this way. At least i don't want to live in a world where EA, UBI and ActiBlizz are the only entities making games. Because their games are fucking garbage.

TLDR: if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.


He is? Where? When? Quote something.

All i see is on one hand proper bug reports and feature requests. You know, constructive criticism. Which he reads and even answers to even though this isn't his patreon page. And on the other hand i see insults toward his work, which only spreads negativity and i don't see why a sane person should deal with that.



Please explain to me where he acts entitled. All Znel did was to promise to make the Sex-feature, which is in high demand here, a priority. Also he promised a special demo. Both if we don't post links. Everyone including Znel knows that links will get posted again as soon as these promises are fullfilled or if someone is tired waiting and posts an update, whichever comes first.

So in the end we didn't stop posting the links for Znel but for US, the members who want the stuff he promised.

If you don't want these features then feel free to go to his patreon, subscribe, reupload and post the link here just like i did. Nobody is stopping you. Do what you want because a Pirate is free.

if you want a finished game then wait until its fucking finished.

I agree, remove Holodexx crap and LaDouche and i'm in.



Just saw on itch you get Beta19, you might want to update that since it's the same version posted here ;)
I used to develop games, but moved onto software, so I think I can weigh in on this;

Developers are not above reproach. I made some shite before, and I even worked on some mobile games that never got released, and which I was thankful never got released because they were predatory as fuck, but. I needed the money.

Getting upset at a dev for feature creep is not unwarranted. Some devs (Myself included) can lose ourselves in fixing and tweaking the same thing over and over again, because we keep seeing better ways it could be developed, theres nothing wrong with saying "Hey. Stop that shit and move on".

Though, I do agree that some people take it waaay too far, and people that pirated the product should keep complaints to themselves due to them, well, not having any stake in the games development as they didnt pay for anything related to the development.

However, if you paid for a product and you arent seeing any sort of movement on it for months, its okay to be like "Hey, we need an update here to make sure you arent just fiddling with yourself watching the money roll in".
 
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