HazaRealGamer

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But there are cases where burglars for example sue home owners when breaking in, and do win. Look up the case of Terrence Dickinson,
Bad example, everybody knows that was just wrong, thus why everybody talks about it. To put it simple, if Terrence broke into your house and had to survive with dog food, would it be fair to you to pay half a mil to this thief? Ofc not right? Who will think that is fair? Only the thief ofc

Regardless the legality of it, this is irrelevant. From what Danbario and other people here said

The problem is, it's not actually any type of specific website injector, that's just a scare to point the blame at Kemono.
And from what I googled

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This seems to be a prank from the dev to kemono. The Rusian characters seems to be just random text the dev put according to Rusian people commenting on the post.

As I said and repeat, I would just stick to trusted sources like here in f95, dev cannot touch links here.
 
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Frognaf

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I also don't believe for a second that a developer like Znel would be smart enough to build an injector for a specific website upload, only to then login to your account on Discord without using a VPN... Come on. I've met some stupid people but, that is something else. Especially if you want others to believe that.
Primarily, if you have 2FA enabled - there is absolutely no way someone could gain access to your sessions. Even if using a cookie method, it's not going to work since cookies nowadays are not signed or managed like they used to be, they're a lot more strict - especially when establishing a HTTPS connection. It's impossible, unless they have physical access to your phone and/or authenticator.

It is clear to me that you don't know as much as you believe you do, or you're trying to dismiss what is happening. I have 2FA enabled. My account was hacked. This much disproves that hacking an account with 2FA enabled is impossible. If you look into this at all, sources will say that yes, it is possible. I also don't think it's unreasonable to claim that a developer COULD run a backdoor into your PC, especially if the product isn't through an official market such as Steam. While it didn't add malware, Welcome to the Game had a backdoor that the developer could access to manipulate your game and render it unplayable. It's a possibility that ZnelArts is behind the hacks, but not a certainty.
 

Frognaf

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I'm not selectively doing anything. And I'm not arguing in a vacuum here. His code could still be considered MALWARE under the US definition. It causes a blue screen, right? Which, could then fall under "Disrupts system behaviour" If you had bothered to read my post, you'd have read my point involving that.
It's not an actual BSOD, but rather a screen that happens to be blue. It's displayed in the game's window and can be exited. Still contains malware. Me and at least one other person in the thread have been hacked.


Without specific conditions being met, 2FA auth hacking without physical access to your authenticator device or knowledge of your phone number (for a SIM swap etc) is not going to be possible.
I got hacked. I don't know what else to tell you. Could it have been triggered by something else? Maybe. Still got hacked.
 
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HazaRealGamer

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Edit - I will retract my claims that this is malware, based on the merit that it does not cause a system disrupt but rather fakes one. I had thought it actually locked down the system. This was my entire argument, in which case - I was wrong.
I was typing my response just as you edited it but well, here it was what I was going to say:

Fair enough, appreciate the shift in tone.

I still think calling it “malware” is a stretch, a spoofed blue screen in a pirated build is hardly the kind of threat the CFAA was written to prosecute. but yeah we can pause the debate here cuz I’m planning to dig into the build myself on a VM and see exactly what it does. Until then, let’s put a pin in it.

Good discussion. Let’s pick it back up if anything new turns up.
 
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.Sirene

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I was typing my response just as you edited it but well, here it was what I was going to say:

Fair enough, appreciate the shift in tone.

I still think calling it “malware” is a stretch, a spoofed blue screen in a pirated build is hardly the kind of threat the CFAA was written to prosecute. but yeah we can pause the debate here cuz I’m planning to dig into the build myself on a VM and see exactly what it does. Until then, let’s put a pin in it.

Good discussion. Let’s pick it back up if anything new turns up.
As I said, I had originally believed it to be Malware based solely on it locking out the system. I was not convinced that it was genuinely taking data or transmitting since the IP was Kemono.

As for the VM idea, I had already the same idea but I'm struggling to find the exact build people are referring to - I've got a VM ready to go, and once I grab a copy I'm gonna poke about too. See what's up.

And of course, interesting discussion for sure. If anything should change, I'd be happy to discuss it further but I think Znel might not be in the market of fake-outs any further. And if he is, well, backlash would ensue I'm sure - if not from the piracy group, then from his subs. (I would hope).
 
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HazaRealGamer

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It's not an actual BSOD, but rather a screen that happens to be blue. It's displayed in the game's window and can be exited. Still contains malware. Me and at least one other person in the thread have been hacked.

I got hacked. I don't know what else to tell you. Could it have been triggered by something else? Maybe. Still got hacked.
This brings up a paradox I'd like to name The Bragging Malware Paradox (if a name for it doesn't exists already)

If malware is advanced enough to silently access your system, why would it announce itself with a fake blue screen and ruin the stealth?

This is an indication that the purpose of it is not to steal data undetected but to deter users.
 

Frognaf

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Okay, I assumed it actually caused a physical lockout of the system. Which is why I was arguing earlier with the other guy that it's malware. In this case - then, it's not malware... It's just a fakeout.

I mean, you're suggesting that it's a fake BSOD - which, is true. There is no phone home here, since it's been shown to be a fake BSOD and fake sending. If it's fake, then the hack was not from Znel. If the hacking of your account is not from Znel then it has absolutely zero relevance to this discussion and you're using it only as a tactic to scaremonger.

So which is it? Are you saying you got hacked because of the fake Kemono screen? Or are you scaremongering? Or are you arguing a third point that the fake Kemono malware is actually real but pretending to be fake?... What is your argument here?
I never described it as a BSOD in my first post in the thread, I said it was a "blue screen," a screen that is blue. I also never said it wasn't a mock BSOD either. I told you that it's "not an actual BSOD." I was informing you that it was just a screen in the game, which it appears you DO know. My mistake, it happens, whatever. Still, my discord account WAS hacked. I don't know what else could have triggered that. Not going to argue this with you.
 

.Sirene

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I never described it as a BSOD in my first post in the thread, I said it was a "blue screen," a screen that is blue. I also never said it wasn't a mock BSOD either. I told you that it's "not an actual BSOD." I was informing you that it was just a screen in the game, which it appears you DO know. My mistake, it happens, whatever. Still, my discord account WAS hacked. I don't know what else could have triggered that. Not going to argue this with you.
Did you not see my post just above?

As I said, I had originally believed it to be Malware based solely on it locking out the system. I was not convinced that it was genuinely taking data or transmitting since the IP was Kemono.
Quit scaremongering. You got hacked because you were not careful. Not because of this game.

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And if someone did purchase Nitro on your linked card, then you should be filing a chargeback through your bank. Contacting Discord to report fraud and then filing a police report to ensure it's at least recorded in a system somewhere. At least that's what people do here, I don't know where you're based but, that's pretty much the standard where I live.
 
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Danbario

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If malware is advanced enough to silently access your system, why would it announce itself with a fake blue screen and ruin the stealth?
The problem with this argument is that the malware, if it is accessing these files, isn't bragging, it's committing a false flag. People in this very thread have come here thinking this was a hack perpetrated by Kemono. If this narrative hadn't fallen through so easily, actually following through would serve to cultivate more distrust and fear in Kemono.

As for the VM idea, I had already the same idea but I'm struggling to find the exact build people are referring to - I've got a VM ready to go, and once I grab a copy I'm gonna poke about too. See what's up.
There's a functioning link on Kemono right now. Considering that's how this was being delivered before, it's a solid lead. Then again, chances are he knows we're talking about this by now, so it might be a clean file now. But if you do this, make sure you make efforts to hide your identity, as the links all go through his site.

Quit scaremongering. You got hacked because you were not careful. Not because of this game.
Nuh uh, hold up there. You have no proof that there's not actually any malicious activities going on here until you actually manage to run an infected version in a primed VM (IE with fake data to actually be stolen) and log what happens. Until then, talking like this is just harmless scareware could be dangerous, especially when two users have reported similar hacks with this game being the common factor.

And if someone did purchase Nitro on your linked card, then you should be filing a chargeback through your bank.
From Frognaf's post, it sounds like the purchases were made through their account. In this case, filing for a chargeback will most likely get their account instantly and permanently banned, while going through Discord would most likely get the charges refunded anyway. I've dealt with Discord's fraud support before, and they're surprisingly thorough, but my case was admittedly quite different. Also, yes, police report now.
 

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The problem with this argument is that the malware, if it is accessing these files, isn't bragging, it's committing a false flag. People in this very thread have come here thinking this was a hack perpetrated by Kemono. If this narrative hadn't fallen through so easily, actually following through would serve to cultivate more distrust and fear in Kemono.
That is why it is a paradox, paradoxes by definition have a fundamental problem.
 

Danbario

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That is why it is a paradox, paradoxes by definition have a fundamental problem.
You're not understanding me. I was saying that, because of the attempt to frame another entity, there's no such Paradox here. The purpose isn't to scare people away from pirating this game, it's to sew distrust in Kemono. If you successfully put the blame on someone else, then actually, factually causing harm is more effective than just scaring them.

Imagine it like this, if I were to disguise myself as you in an attempt to get you arrested, what would be better at doing this job, telling someone I was going to beat them, or actually beating them?
 
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jdaniels

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The problem is, it's not actually any type of specific website injector, that's just a scare to point the blame at Kemono. All that seems to really happen is that, when he spots the link on Kemono, he replaces the file with a malicious version and puts a new link on Patreon. Any dumbass could manage that.
Specifically this, yes.
Unfortunately, just means we need a hero.
 
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Salva95O

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Guys, do you by any chance have a link to download all the characters that aren't in the game like the succubus, the demihuman, the oni etc...?
 

Salva95O

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ZIP Pass: TheAnswer

TVS Beta 42 Cheat Code : 6043

Succubus CC:
Beta 41 CC:
Demi-Human CC:
Oni CC:
Elize CC:
Fembot CC:
Anime-Bunny CC:

How to import

1- Use the Character Creator to import using one of the import buttons (bottom left corner)

2- Then save it into an slot

3- Now use the Character Selection Console and select that slot

Major Features

  • Adding freezer slots to save serums and tanks
  • Added Auto-Dematerializer for Armchair and Cheat
  • Undo/Redo in Character Creator
  • Implementing Dalphine Laugh reactions
  • New Automata outfit (Top and Boots)
Main Game Improvements

  • Heroes look down or to your face during intercourse
  • Updated milking tank ingredient material colors
  • Added Y axis lock to poser machine hip cuffs
  • Reduced poser machine hero Y offset
  • Added VR smooth locomotion armchair marker
  • Allowed foot tickle with synth legs
  • Updating keyboard controls texture on monitor prop
  • Reduced sensitivity for dynamic tickle
  • Creating 2nd camera display canvas with UI instructions
  • Updating Synth eyes and Spine
  • Adding interactable highlight to Paddles in VR
  • Updating Fabrikator Paddle Icons
  • Small tweak to Mission Splash UI
  • Add missing morphs to ball gag
  • Improved FX Decal in Fabrikator
  • Pull IK Reactions when tickled
  • Double grab bug fix
  • Fear based knockout reaction
  • Hero pulls cuffs when brought to stage
  • Can now Inject & attach suction cup to Synth extremities
  • Hero will now pee at max fear
  • Fixing gamepad virtual mouse
  • Heroes look at removed cloth point
  • Added tongue animation for high submission kissing
  • Adding fill and empty serum freezer cheats
  • Adding game trailer camera cheat buttons
  • Adding auto dematerialize cheat buttons
  • Improved lick tickle
  • Adding milk indicator purchase button
  • Fixing disabled genitals after armchair sex issue
  • Adding progress animation to status unlockable buttons
  • Desktop interaction auto detach distance
  • Hero selection now shows progress bar
  • Updated Synth Mission 1 level description to match required interactions
  • Switching to dick mode during interaction fix
  • Updating Automata Vanilla Char with new Top
  • Adding Loading Screen Tips
  • Fix for gag attach exception
  • Clone performs a Wilhelm Scream in Tutorial
  • Loading Synth after tutorial skip
  • Character selection set to not available instead of hidden
  • Fixed non-interactable objective claim
  • Fixed blocked character select after pressing restore clothes
  • Adding weapon holograms disabled mode during tutorials and missions
  • Added Credits and News sections in Main Menu
  • Fix jp Localization parse exception
  • Adding Hero POV and Player Mirror Cameras
  • Fix for Dance 01 not syncing with music
  • Player body stability fix
  • Seated masturbation area set to below UI
  • Fixing dick hydra by adding existing dick check
  • Fixed synth pump not following genitals issue
  • Fixing Player Hands Occlusion box
  • Saving Nipple breast amount
  • Adding VR/player body damage handler
  • New Breast Milk Capacity Calculation
  • Added morph station sfw censor
  • Adjusting opinions on Synth and Foxy
  • Vanilla opinions are now loaded from character zne file
  • Updating synth with correct skin
  • Added Fabrikator item descriptions and fully localized
  • Improved VR binding help page
  • Refactored status purchase button
  • Reskin Purchase UI on Status Console
  • Changing main menu disclaimer font
  • Adjusted City Landscape Cyclo in main scene


Character Creator

  • Hiding clothes bug fixes
  • Adding extra Alphakini top adjustment sliders
  • Adding neck length slider
  • Adding Succubus Head Wings to character Creator
  • Adding Cosmo Wings to character Creator
  • Adding Succubus Wings to character Creator
  • Adding Advanced Tail to Character Creator
  • Adding currently wearing character creator panel
  • Adding skin emission slider and texture slots
  • Adding Areolae adjustment to Conbat/Catsuit
  • Fix Leg Armor adjustment and missing body shape
  • Adding more Combat/Catsuit materials and adjustments
  • Adding New Automata cyber boots
  • Added Hannah Hannah morph to Foxy Gauntlets
  • Added All tab for items with multiple material tabs
  • Adding Hip Size DNA Slider to character creator
  • Adding thigh gap slider
  • Adding reset to default for costume morph sliders
  • Fixing gloss min material properties
  • Added Tenebris Skirt Materials and option to set individual flaps invisible
  • Adding flaps adjustments to Android Skirt
  • Adding Automata Top to Character Creator
  • Fixing assassin shirt overwear
I am referring to this post but the download link has expired
 
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