VN Ren'Py Thief of Hearts [v0.0.2a] [MrDots Games]

[Dessolos]

I don't know about you, but kissing your "tenants" on the lips is seriously odd and awkward when you aren't actually dating them. It's the kind of thing that tends to make your tenants up and move out to find a landlord and/or co-tenants who aren't into random sexual harassment.

I forget the context of the scene you are referring to or if you are just speaking in general. I think if it's clear there is feeling from both people involved it isn't awkward. But yeah if it's just the MC making a move for example without knowing how the other person feels then I agree it can come across as awkward and weird depending on the reactions. But doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game. I like it when a path / romance starts off as weird and awkward but then develops into a real romance.

Edit : I know you aren't saying the dev should makes changes the game I was speaking in general terms. Just realized it came across like you were so my bad

 

[ffive]

I think, when things are really annoying me I will and shall give my opinion about it. Not being stopped. I don't like the posts where people are trying to change the game. An sometimes I will not ignore but react to the discussion.

And that point was reached right now. So I reacted.

If you reserve yourself right to speak about things then at the very least extend the same courtesy to others instead of trying to shut them down merely because they annoy you personally.

It's particularly silly when you went off on a post that wasn't advocating making changes to the game, and claim you've done it because "you don't like posts where people are trying to change the game".

 

[AdultFunGamer]

Nothing has changed in the update from the previous ones. He sees the girl with the tattoo in the alley and gets punched. End. What has changed in the update now?

 

[cxx]

Nothing has changed in the update from the previous ones. He sees the girl with the tattoo in the alley and gets punched. End. What has changed in the update now?

mostly bugfixes.

 

[TonyMurray]

Nothing has changed in the update from the previous ones. He sees the girl with the tattoo in the alley and gets punched. End. What has changed in the update now?

It's not an update, just bugfixes incorrectly labelled here as an update (see previous posts from a member of the dev team over the last couple of pages).

 

[enfuego]

So is this game's dialogue as horrible as Sunshine Love?

 

[Mrkraken888]

So is this game's dialogue as horrible as Sunshine Love?

Woo, horrible? Sunshine Love is one of my absolute favourites, what did't you like about it?

 

[cxx]

Woo, horrible? Sunshine Love is one of my absolute favourites, what did't you like about it?

all and everything.

all avns have not that good dialogues.

 

[enfuego]

what did't you like about it?

You can see it in several reviews for on the thread but basically it feels like everyone speaks in wikipedia articles. It's just very dry and overwritten.

 

[cxx]

very dysfunctional family and hard to believe that they are relatives.

 

[AdultFunGamer]

It's not an update, just bugfixes incorrectly labelled here as an update (see previous posts from a member of the dev team over the last couple of pages).

ohhh sorry okay

 

[cxx]

funnier than sl (but far from funniet game), pretty sisters and other girls and mommy and ahole daddy (like in sl), lots of happenings, plot twists (mc having really bad luck since he got robbed twice) and rest. so good start but just too bad that pathing starts started so early.

Spoiler: besties

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[Skeltom]

It says every scene is intended to be avoidable, so if that's the case/if they get that right, you should be able to avoid individual scenes with one character, while enjoying other scenes with the same character.

Um, did you play it at all? The only sex scene in the game is forced on the player as a "plot point" so that everything is avoidable thing is already false. Not to mention the land lady/mother can't keep her lips to herself. You can't even tell her that's enough of that.

 

[Hyperserver]

funnier than sl (but far from funniet game), pretty sisters and other girls and mommy and ahole daddy (like in sl), lots of happenings, plot twists (mc having really bad luck since he got robbed twice) and rest. so good start but just too bad that pathing starts started so early.

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there is no pathing in this game like in several other games. You are never "on" or "off" path with any girl. All paths are always open, and you can always decline to get into action with them.
Aside the 2 party girls in 1st update (who are not dateable or romancable at all), all scenes will be avoidable. The 2 party girls were there just for story reason and to have lewd content in there in 1st update.

 

[Hyperserver]

You can see it in several reviews for on the thread but basically it feels like everyone speaks in wikipedia articles. It's just very dry and overwritten.

you are right - and that's why we changed the way of writing and really tried to avoid such "overwritten stuff". It should be MUCH better in ToH compared to SL (As several player already confirmed over here.

 

[Skeltom]

there is no pathing in this game like in several other games. YOu are never "on" or "off" path with any girl. All paths are always open, and you can always decline to get into action with them.
Aside the 2 party girls in 1st update (who are not dateable or romancable at all), all scenes will be avoidable. The 2 party girls were there just for story reason and to have lewd content in there in 1st update.

That's fine and all, I was just pointing out the fact that not everything is avoidable, it just isn't. I also personally have no interest in the milf and just wish there was a way to at least hint to that. Though it doesn't seem to matter if the player is or not. The very cringe, to me at least, "hard-on from a hug" scene kind of proves that. The MC likes her so that's that.

 

[MiltonPowers]

That's fine and all, I was just pointing out the fact that not everything is avoidable, it just isn't. I also personally have no interest in the milf and just wish there was a way to at least hint to that. Though it doesn't seem to matter if the player is or not. The very cringe, to me at least, "hard-on from a hug" scene kind of proves that. The MC likes her so that's that.

I find that very frustrating, you get choices to turn people down, but MC's thoughts and words are constantly drooling over her.

 

[Skeltom]

I find that very frustrating, you get choices to turn people down, but MC's thoughts and words are constantly drooling over her.

It's inconsistent at best. What is the point of the choices if the MC is just going to keep talking to himself about how much he wants them? The game doesn't take into account the actual player agency itself. Not that there is really a lot of it right now. Like being given the "choice" to help them with their jobs or not. It doesn't matter what you pick, you're doing it anyway. Just an illusion of choice.

 

[Hyperserver]

It's inconsistent at best. What is the point of the choices if the MC is just going to keep talking to himself about how much he wants them? The game doesn't take into account the actual player agency itself.

And exactly THIS is what i told the main writer, and which we try to avoid in ToH.
So if you only have played our previous games, go play ToH first before you babble stuff over here.
We may have missed some comments or some of the thoughts, but we continue trying to get better with each update.

Like being given the "choice" to help them with their jobs or not. It doesn't matter what you pick, you're doing it anyway. Just an illusion of choice.

Oh, you are wrong. Choices matter more than you think. It even matters in which order you do the choices, as taking one girl over another can change the outcome. It may not affect whether a scene is gonna happen or not, but it WILL have impact later on.
Other games just display the important choices, so player knows exactly "whenever a choice appears, it's crucial". We want to "coat" them by adding also some "unnecessary" choices - so player will not know which of them are crucial, important or unimportant at all.

 

[Skeltom]

And exactly THIS is what i told the main writer, and which we try to avoid in ToH.
So if you only have played our previous games, go play ToH first before you babble stuff over here.
We may have missed some comments or some of the thoughts, but we continue trying to get better with each update.

Oh, you are wrong. Choices matter more than you think. It even matters in which order you do the choices, as taking one girl over another can change the outcome. It may not affect whether a scene is gonna happen or not, but it WILL have impact later on.
Other games just display the important choices, so player knows exactly "whenever a choice appears, it's crucial". We want to "coat" them by adding also some "unnecessary" choices - so player will not know which of them are crucial, important or unimportant at all.

I'm having a hard time following the wording of that response. I have played all of the games but I'm not talking about them, nor am I comparing this to the others. If by babbling stuff you mean sharing opinions about this game then yeah, I guess I did. I also think "missed some comments or some of the thoughts" is being generous. All this MC does it tell himself how into anything with a hole he is. It's seems like a core part of his character and I'm sure I'm not the only one who has seen it.

When you say even the order in which you choose something matters and "coating" the choices to me it sounds like you are already adding traps for the players to get fucked over with. If some seemingly unimportant choice is going to mess with the player being able to get the best rating for a task then it will have them walking on egg shells or maybe even retrying again to see if something goes better. Almost like it was designed to have the walkthrough unlocked to know how to get the best outcome. Otherwise it's just poke and hope.