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Well, some of the posing and sex scene ideas are okay. Some narrative notions would have potential if dialogue wasn't unhinged. Model work could be a lot better, but I've seen a lot worse.

But all of you who consider writing in this excellent, what the fuck are you smoking? It's an incoherent mess. All 3 main characters have a combined IQ of 70 at best, most of it in Julia, who is also completely psychotic. What's worse, the writing was deteriorating more and more as the time goes on, and no, terrible translation had nothing to do with it. It's like talking to a person who is slowly losing their mind. This is beyond someone who is an antisocial permavirgin who has no idea how real people talk or behave.
 

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Damn, 19 months since the last progress report. :( I really hope Noir Desir is all right IRL. I always worry when devs suddenly disappear without any reason or word. We've lost devs to things like death, and my mind can't help but worry about something like that. Noir Desir, in the off-chance that you get e-mail notifications and visit here again (though you've not been here on F95Zone for even longer): I hope you're doing OK.
 

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Damn, 19 months since the last progress report. :( I really hope Noir Desir is all right IRL. I always worry when devs suddenly disappear without any reason or word. We've lost devs to things like death, and my mind can't help but worry about something like that. Noir Desir, in the off-chance that you get e-mail notifications and visit here again (though you've not been here on F95Zone for even longer): I hope you're doing OK.
Last seen on here was Jun 2023 and on Patreon in Aug 2023, not one single post anywhere that I can see since then.
 

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Well, some of the posing and sex scene ideas are okay. Some narrative notions would have potential if dialogue wasn't unhinged. Model work could be a lot better, but I've seen a lot worse.

But all of you who consider writing in this excellent, what the fuck are you smoking? It's an incoherent mess. All 3 main characters have a combined IQ of 70 at best, most of it in Julia, who is also completely psychotic. What's worse, the writing was deteriorating more and more as the time goes on, and no, terrible translation had nothing to do with it. It's like talking to a person who is slowly losing their mind. This is beyond someone who is an antisocial permavirgin who has no idea how real people talk or behave.
I think the phrasing in dialogue is often awkward, which I chalk up to it being a translation.

I also think there wasn't really much going on in the story, but that's okay because it is a porn game. The narrative is meant to enhance the eroticism, not be a satisfying story. Far too many porn games try too hard to have a story that is good as a standalone story rather than a story that pushes and enhances the erotic element.

What this game does better than almost any, is portraying a brother/sister incest dynamic. Most other games either resort to some kind of gimmick as an excuse for it; whether that is mind control, magic, blackmail, or whatever else; or they just have everyone be a huge slut willing to commit incest for no good or explained reason.

The MC doesn't have that much personality (he's supposed to be a stand-in for the player and allow for different choices and player agency, so that is fine), but Julia is very well done. She isn't a psycho or bipolar as someone else in this thread complained, she is deeply conflicted because she is attracted to her brother and she knows she isn't supposed to be.

That is why she is sometimes teasing, other times pushing him away, other times trying to create some kind of flimsy justification for why she is continuing to tease her brother and do sexual things with him.

And through it all she doesn't act like she is infatuated or in love or anything (it is deeply unsatisfying when incest storylines are treated as some conventional romance), she continues to keep an older sibling/younger sibling dynamic going. It is why she feels jealous over her brother and also has trouble trying to define the type of relationship they have or want to have.

So the game has a satisfying porn narrative of the two main characters overcoming the barriers of incest in a fairly realistic manner. That is why I think it is such a shame it isn't likely to be continued.
 
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Barretto24

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I think the phrasing in dialogue is often awkward, which I chalk up to it being a translation.

I also think there wasn't really much going on in the story, but that's okay because it is a porn game. The narrative is meant to enhance the eroticism, not be a satisfying story. Far too many porn games try too hard to have a story that is good as a standalone story rather than a story that pushes and enhances the erotic element.

What this game does better than almost any, is portraying a brother/sister incest dynamic. Most other games either resort to some kind of gimmick as an excuse for it; whether that is mind control, magic, blackmail, or whatever else; or they just have everyone be a huge slut willing to commit incest for no good or explained reason.

The MC doesn't have that much personality (he's supposed to be a stand-in for the player and allow for different choices and player agency, so that is fine), but Julia is very well done. She isn't a psycho or bipolar as someone else in this thread complained, she is deeply conflicted because she is attracted to her brother and she knows she isn't supposed to be.

That is why she is sometimes teasing, other times pushing him away, other times trying to create some kind of flimsy justification for why she is continuing to tease her brother and do sexual things with him.

And through it all she doesn't act like she is infatuated or in love or anything (it is deeply unsatisfying when incest storylines are treated as some conventional romance), she continues to keep an older sibling/younger sibling dynamic going. It is why she feels jealous over her brother and also has trouble trying to define the type of relationship they have or want to have.

So the game has a satisfying porn narrative of the two main characters overcoming the barriers of incest in a fairly realistic manner. That is why I think it is such a shame it isn't likely to be continued.
Nicely put
 

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Is it actually abandoned again?

Dunno if I can be bothered with it any more tbh
Never say never, but this game has been stuck in roughly the same place for years.

2023 has been quoted as the last time anyone heard about the dev.

I'm not checking in on this one anymore. If it happens, it happens but very small % chance IMO.
 

Skargaroth

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Never say never, but this game has been stuck in roughly the same place for years.

2023 has been quoted as the last time anyone heard about the dev.

I'm not checking in on this one anymore. If it happens, it happens but very small % chance IMO.
Indeed.. I don't mind this one being abandoned, the writing was weird, the game a little frustrating and jarring so meh
 

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Not that it makes a difference, but I actually loved this game. The tension and little games the sister played with the brother awas of the charts.
Different strokes for different folks
Obviously. Nobody's saying you have to like it. We respect that you feel differently.

I do agree with Alfius, though. One of the better aspects of the game was how much of a hard time Julia gave the MC and how frustrated he got, even often reaching a point of confusion. His cluelessness combined with Julia's teasing (and also her sudden fits of rage when she didn't get her way) made this game a real treat IMO.
 

Skargaroth

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Obviously. Nobody's saying you have to like it. We respect that you feel differently.

I do agree with Alfius, though. One of the better aspects of the game was how much of a hard time Julia gave the MC and how frustrated he got, even often reaching a point of confusion. His cluelessness combined with Julia's teasing (and also her sudden fits of rage when she didn't get her way) made this game a real treat IMO.
*sigh*

Good for you, I didn't like it, so why is it you're pushing your like of the game on me?

Getting a little fed up with this community.
 
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Alfius

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*sigh*

Good for you, I didn't like it, so why is it you're pushing your like of the game on me?

Getting a little fed up with this community.
I don't understand your post. We don't mind that you think this game is meh...
Like you said different strokes for different folks.

But you did comment on a thread of a game that some of us do like. So we simply posted that we do like the game and why we like the game. We are not trying to convince you or pick a fight with you.

Discussing a game on its game thread is what a thread is about, so that is what the back and from is for.

You made a statement, and we made a counter statement...


In any case...much ado about nothing. No big deal.
 

Barretto24

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Nobody has been able to get a hold of Noir Desir. The dev hasn't been active on here or Patreon since 2023. None of the subscribers on Patreon have gotten hold of the dev and there has been no update.

TAY has had numerous times were it lay inactive before an update popped up out of the blue. But it is now ticking on to almost 2 years since the last update. I do feel the project has come to a dead-end. I do hope Noir is ok as I said literally no communication at all. It's a shame because TAY was a really unique game.
 
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Skargaroth

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I don't understand your post. We don't mind that you think this game is meh...
Like you said different strokes for different folks.

But you did comment on a thread of a game that some of us do like. So we simply posted that we do like the game and why we like the game. We are not trying to convince you or pick a fight with you.

Discussing a game on its game thread is what a thread is about, so that is what the back and from is for.

You made a statement, and we made a counter statement...


In any case...much ado about nothing. No big deal.
You going into detail at me about why you like the game over the detail the other person gave me.. You like the game, fine, just leave it at that, thank you, good day
 

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I felt Nostalgic and downloaded and played the last version again from the start.
(OK I skipped a lot of dialogue and played with mod)

But....damn!!!

Julia is insanely hot and the eventual sex scenes with her is to die for!

I wish that it would continue, but ultimately this is a slice of live game and since you had sex with her, I'm actually very happy with what is in the game.
 

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I felt Nostalgic and downloaded and played the last version again from the start.
(OK I skipped a lot of dialogue and played with mod)

But....damn!!!

Julia is insanely hot and the eventual sex scenes with her is to die for!

I wish that it would continue, but ultimately this is a slice of live game and since you had sex with her, I'm actually very happy with what is in the game.
After those final scenes, the developer should have just marked the game as completed. Sex with Julia was the ultimate prize anyway. Of course, there would be ways to continue, but perhaps the developer felt like I do, felt they could never top that, and lost interest in trying to find those ways.
 
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