Kattlarv

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Well I think I just got more information from you than the one I could get from them xD Thank you I appreciate it, was actually looking forward to know more about this project because it has a loot of potential.

I'm also scared about this game being unfinished or rushed and not meeting the expectations, and to be honest from what you said they have really high goals which may be a bit too hard to accomplish, on the very least it's gonna take a lot of time. So far I'm happy with the path the game is following I guess it's the most interesting path to me, that said if they promised all that stuff I think they owe that content to their patreons, even if it takes a lot of time.

I don't know much about the team, but I hope they don't lose the illusion for the project or get tired of it, because people love it and they're showing much support for it.
To what I know, you can get a decent chunk from twitter and discord. But yes: They DO dodge a lot of questions.
For what specific reasons though, I can't say. It could be completely genuine reasons.

And I wouldn't say "unfinished" unfinished per se. As: The pethio route will be fully fledged. It's more a questions of what (if any) will be heavily cut. Anyhow: I don't recall if they had a patreon up by then... they prolly did. But even if: They're literally not legally obligated to deliver anything. (As seen by several kickstarters.) As online wise: That all works on a "blind trust" principal.

Of what I've seen over the years. It's been more of a "sideways shuffle" that most games do. Start off big: Then gradually phase things out they either fail to deliver and/or lost interest in. While including other stuff they randomly picked up interest in, or felt comfortable including. (like hyper inflation. That one was kinda left field.) It can as said also be the fans that triggered it. Ex: They laid out their game plan. But fans said that X sucks and they want more Y instead. It's hard to tell when they're always so vague.

I just put in side content that I like. We have some stuff planned. Most of it isn't and wasn't.
Did this reply get cut off or what? As it doesn't seem to be completed.

Some people do work very hard for the chance to end up on an ignore list. I admit, i admire the dedication. This obsession over imaginary promises for such a long time.. i guess we got a taste of what a yandere is like. We have our very own local yandere. Enlightening really.

By now i come to the point where i genuinely cheer for the game NOT to have a lesbian path at all, if that was ever planned which i kinda doubt. But if it was.. i hope those plans are all discarded by now for good. Just to see the butthurt overflow.
Some do indeed~.
And: They are not imaginary. Do some basic research. If you check the first page of this thread. "Female domination" is a prominently featured genre. That said: The "lesbian" tag HAS been removed. So, that does support the theory that they got too lazy to properly include it. Despite this: During a discord stream review. Someone said that the game doesn't really contain any lesbian content. Someone that watched said stream: Got curious and asked about this. Since "we have lesbians!" is plastered ALL OVER the fucking steam and itch page. The creators got a bit defensive on that. Giving the "strong" counter that: The game currently has a whole 3, unfinished lesbian animations. Which... is the opposite of impressive. During a twitter post. They said they were considering adding something lesbian of any weight. In addition to claiming that you WILL be able to "play only lesbian". And, during a NG post: There was a slight brag/showing off that: "One of the guards... is a GIRL. So: Yeah... didn't see that coming, did you?" (Which: At the time: Yes, that was a plot twist. As by that point of the story: For all we knew: All women were second class citizens/property. So... how the fuck did one become a guard? Basically upper class.)

As pointed out: You may get your wish as it seems probable that they will sweet that part under the rug, and continue to falsely advertise the game. Most likely not even correcting the blurb. So: Yeah. If it DOES pull a "Panthea". There's not much to do other than give it a poor rating, specify the exception and move on. So yeah. This type of game is a great example of why you can't trust to support most games until they are finished. Which is the opposite of what the community should be building. Again: On both NG, Twitter AND Disc: There has been specified that there WILL be a "pure route" and it's the "nightmare difficulty" of the game. The more you whore out: The easier the game becomes. The more you stay loyal to your GF, the harder the game becomes. You get less gear, less content, less unique equipment, less route, less choices. Going with your attitude... I wouldn't be surprised if the only reward for beating the game this way, was an achievement that went "[Lol, sucker!]" and the description "Now go play the game as you're supposed to!". I don't know about you: But if I beat a game at the highest difficulty... I expect a bigger reward than both 1: A minigame I unlock by just starting the game. 2: Losing to the first enemy on very easy... that said: I don't assume it will be an even percentage split. I DO however expect the Pethio route to NOT make up ~92 % of the entire game. Then have a wet fart as all other advertised content. If a game claims it contains X, it damn well better contain X. Otherwise it's as genuine as a "nut bar" that contains 1 % nuts.

I've had little reason to doubt this project. I was with it since the first post at NG. And it made great progress and improvements every ~3 months or so. I'd say that only the last ~6 months has it become a bit fishy. (Though, yes: I guess you can argue that I missed all the "red flags" as it gradually snuck in weirder and weirder shit on the fetish scale without a counterpart. Along with the massively more elaborate things, also without counterparts. So, yeah: You can probably be able to say I got bamboozled for being dumb enough to trust the pitch of a game. But as said: It built up a really solid trust at the get go. So, maybe it's just me who is naive when it comes to TC. Maybe they DID pull a 180 when I wasn't looking. I'll have to wait and see.
 

Mayra

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To what I know, you can get a decent chunk from twitter and discord. But yes: They DO dodge a lot of questions.
For what specific reasons though, I can't say. It could be completely genuine reasons.

And I wouldn't say "unfinished" unfinished per se. As: The pethio route will be fully fledged. It's more a questions of what (if any) will be heavily cut. Anyhow: I don't recall if they had a patreon up by then... they prolly did. But even if: They're literally not legally obligated to deliver anything. (As seen by several kickstarters.) As online wise: That all works on a "blind trust" principal.

Of what I've seen over the years. It's been more of a "sideways shuffle" that most games do. Start off big: Then gradually phase things out they either fail to deliver and/or lost interest in. While including other stuff they randomly picked up interest in, or felt comfortable including. (like hyper inflation. That one was kinda left field.) It can as said also be the fans that triggered it. Ex: They laid out their game plan. But fans said that X sucks and they want more Y instead. It's hard to tell when they're always so vague.


Did this reply get cut off or what? As it doesn't seem to be completed.


Some do indeed~.
And: They are not imaginary. Do some basic research. If you check the first page of this thread. "Female domination" is a prominently featured genre. That said: The "lesbian" tag HAS been removed. So, that does support the theory that they got too lazy to properly include it. Despite this: During a discord stream review. Someone said that the game doesn't really contain any lesbian content. Someone that watched said stream: Got curious and asked about this. Since "we have lesbians!" is plastered ALL OVER the fucking steam and itch page. The creators got a bit defensive on that. Giving the "strong" counter that: The game currently has a whole 3, unfinished lesbian animations. Which... is the opposite of impressive. During a twitter post. They said they were considering adding something lesbian of any weight. In addition to claiming that you WILL be able to "play only lesbian". And, during a NG post: There was a slight brag/showing off that: "One of the guards... is a GIRL. So: Yeah... didn't see that coming, did you?" (Which: At the time: Yes, that was a plot twist. As by that point of the story: For all we knew: All women were second class citizens/property. So... how the fuck did one become a guard? Basically upper class.)

As pointed out: You may get your wish as it seems probable that they will sweet that part under the rug, and continue to falsely advertise the game. Most likely not even correcting the blurb. So: Yeah. If it DOES pull a "Panthea". There's not much to do other than give it a poor rating, specify the exception and move on. So yeah. This type of game is a great example of why you can't trust to support most games until they are finished. Which is the opposite of what the community should be building. Again: On both NG, Twitter AND Disc: There has been specified that there WILL be a "pure route" and it's the "nightmare difficulty" of the game. The more you whore out: The easier the game becomes. The more you stay loyal to your GF, the harder the game becomes. You get less gear, less content, less unique equipment, less route, less choices. Going with your attitude... I wouldn't be surprised if the only reward for beating the game this way, was an achievement that went "[Lol, sucker!]" and the description "Now go play the game as you're supposed to!". I don't know about you: But if I beat a game at the highest difficulty... I expect a bigger reward than both 1: A minigame I unlock by just starting the game. 2: Losing to the first enemy on very easy... that said: I don't assume it will be an even percentage split. I DO however expect the Pethio route to NOT make up ~92 % of the entire game. Then have a wet fart as all other advertised content. If a game claims it contains X, it damn well better contain X. Otherwise it's as genuine as a "nut bar" that contains 1 % nuts.

I've had little reason to doubt this project. I was with it since the first post at NG. And it made great progress and improvements every ~3 months or so. I'd say that only the last ~6 months has it become a bit fishy. (Though, yes: I guess you can argue that I missed all the "red flags" as it gradually snuck in weirder and weirder shit on the fetish scale without a counterpart. Along with the massively more elaborate things, also without counterparts. So, yeah: You can probably be able to say I got bamboozled for being dumb enough to trust the pitch of a game. But as said: It built up a really solid trust at the get go. So, maybe it's just me who is naive when it comes to TC. Maybe they DID pull a 180 when I wasn't looking. I'll have to wait and see.
I understand your dissapointment, you've been there with this project since the beginning and you've seen it becoming something different from the idea you had about it, but I think you should keep in mind that it's not even half finished and it's normal during a development to change ideas and stuff. The game so far is being a success, both the developers and the players are happy about it so I would say that it's too early to judge it.
 

Kattlarv

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I understand your dissapointment, you've been there with this project since the beginning and you've seen it becoming something different from the idea you had about it, but I think you should keep in mind that it's not even half finished and it's normal during a development to change ideas and stuff. The game so far is being a success, both the developers and the players are happy about it so I would say that it's too early to judge it.
I wouldn't say "different". As: It always advertised maledom in the tags.
And I expected that content. It's more... "lagging behind".
To use a quick comparison to Panthea since it's easy: It also advertises having femdom and lesbians. And it has: 1 unfinished demo scene of each in the gallery. TC does WAY better than that. But: It is miles behind.
It's still the game I signed up. (With a few random, left field fetishes thrown in. Like inflation.) It's just the... "Where is the rest of it?"

It's the "not even half-finished" part I do look at. As, like said: It can be they are just finishing the most requested route first. Or, it can turn out that they'll only add more to that route. But yeah: Groundwork keeps popping up for alternate routes. Though, they may possibly just also be a "cameo" per se. Like: The female guard side "quest". Is fully fleshed out last I checked. And then we have an unfinished scene where you can rape a mini boss. Like, it's littered with unfinished scenes. A crude estimate, but I'd say around 90 % of the effort has gone into the Pethio route so far. And like... is it gonna stay at that ratio throughout development? As: It'd be weird to call that a "route" if it's the only viable one...

It is technically too early to judge, yes. But not too early to be suspicious. (Considering the long list of prior examples in 18+ ames.) Though, it'd prolly be a good idea to take a 3-6 month hiatus and see where it is at then. Not much need to answer the same questions on a weekly basis. But yeah: It's a solid game so far. Just has a lot of catching up to do.
 

kenichitr

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To everyone who has the issues of crashes in the game. Just download 0.27.1(public version right now) too and if you have a crash open 0.27 pass that crash, save, close the game and keep playing 0.29. Because both versions keep the save files in the same folder it is pretty easy and fast.

The original fix came from Dratenir . My version is just a little bit faster and if you are like me and had this crash issue in 5 different locations it may help you better.
 
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botaniq_1

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this game is a f bugfest, i have another bug in vr location
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where there is no background and it is impossible to fight, reloading again does not help, i am getting tired of playing and being afraid that there will be a bug or crash in every fucking dialogue, and this is not some 0.1 alpha version
 

bobby125432

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this game is a f bugfest, i have another bug in vr location
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where there is no background and it is impossible to fight, reloading again does not help, i am getting tired of playing and being afraid that there will be a bug or crash in every fucking dialogue, and this is not some 0.1 alpha version
try opening the console and inputting combat.win or combat.killenemies. both of those should solve that combat error by skipping the combat entirely
 
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D.VaBeast

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Hey, I also got that black screen in the VR location, during the second wave of enemies, after the tentacle scene. I'm gonna sound like a noob but I don't know how to input the commands into a console, or even open the command. Hopefully someone can help me out or find a way around it, the game was just starting to get good too :(
 

Mayra

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Btw anybody knows if there's a scene where the main character is kissed? I don't mean the one where she's licked all over in the bar, I mean her being grab and kiss or something like that, I remembered it when I started playing but I'm not 100% sure.
 

bobby125432

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Hey, I also got that black screen in the VR location, during the second wave of enemies, after the tentacle scene. I'm gonna sound like a noob but I don't know how to input the commands into a console, or even open the command. Hopefully someone can help me out or find a way around it, the game was just starting to get good too :(
to open the console in the game you ahve to enable it thru the homescreen first. settings -> look for console -> enable console, It should tell you what key to press to open console there, If you cant find it there then look in the movement control options under settings and it should tell you there
 
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D.VaBeast

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to open the console in the game you ahve to enable it thru the homescreen first. settings -> look for console -> enable console, It should tell you what key to press to open console there, If you cant find it there then look in the movement control options under settings and it should tell you there
Thank you so much! I figured it out
 

Kattlarv

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Btw anybody knows if there's a scene where the main character is kissed? I don't mean the one where she's licked all over in the bar, I mean her being grab and kiss or something like that, I remembered it when I started playing but I'm not 100% sure.
I think the "bar girl" kisses her? Pretty sure on that. (Yeah, I forgot her name and cba to dig it up xP)
 
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Darkestjuni

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Is there any content after defeating Floria? There are no new quests, but since one post here stated this was the end for a demo one year ago there has to be something I'm missing.
 

botaniq_1

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how is it possible to win 2nd vr battle? There are too many enemies who almost 1 shot me, absolutely impossible. Not only this game is heavily bugged but also disbalanced
 

Ankhesenamun

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Very cool combat system, it's challenging, original and creative, focusing a lot on your positioning and movement rather than bland attacks! I love it, I could play this game for this system alone.

Unfortunately, and maybe because I'm playing on a very old 2013 laptop, some memory issues aren't game-breaking for me: they are computer breaking. Be advised of this if you're also playing on a wooden PC!
 

YetAnotherGamer

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how is it possible to win 2nd vr battle? There are too many enemies who almost 1 shot me, absolutely impossible. Not only this game is heavily bugged but also disbalanced
Edit: I wrote this with a Jenna who was using a Shortwhip in mind. If you only have Grav Knuckles you might want to load a save from before entering VR and buy and equip one.

In this specific fight you have two types of enemies. The 15s do good damage but die in one attack from Jenna or one Twirl from Jewel, while the 45s take 2 or 3 hits but they take a turn to set up their attack and thus aren't much of a threat.

Try starting by taking out the 45 point guy on the left. Move Jenna up to him, have her attack, move Jewel as close as she can get in one move, and Twirl. If you're lucky one or the other will Crit and he'll die, but otherwise he'll be left with a couple of HP. Everyone will move over and (if still alive) the close guy will set up his attack.

If the big guy is alive, Rocket Dash one square past him. He should plow into the wall and die. You should be close enough to move to a 15 point guy and Attack him, while Jewel should be close enough to Twirl another 15 point guy. (She may have to move first.)

From here you can pick off everyone else at your leisure.

I don't know how random this fight gets, but hopefully this gives you an idea of what to do even if it doesn't fit your starting locations.

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Some general fighting advice:

As Ankhensenamun mentioned in the post after yours, the combat system is about positioning and movement. Moving away from enemies and around the obstacles on the map so they don't get to attack is important. (Commonly called "Kiting.")

Jenna's Restless Encouragement skill that both gives someone an extra action and lets them reuse the last skill they used is very powerful. Two Lovers' Twirls will kill many enemies, two Seductive Healings will either completely heal a character or heal two characters (useful to heal Jewel from the damage she takes from it). The action does not have to be the last thing they did; sometimes it's worth an extra move (or whatever).

Jewel's Seductive Healing has an important side benefit: until your next turn, you heal from Lust damage instead of losing health. Very useful against enemies that do more Lust than Physical, or if, say, someone is taking Lust damage every turn due to outside influences.

The Guard Armor gives you Rocket Dash, which lets you move very far in a straight line. Any enemies will be pushed away and will take a small amount of damage; if they hit a wall they'll take more damage. Jenna+Rocket Dash means you can probably push a line of enemies away and get back to your starting position (either via her third action or Restless Encouragement). Due to a bug, make sure you never select a square with an enemy when Rocket Dashing or you will likely become stuck in that space and have to restart the fight.
 
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